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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97287	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #285 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 4:35pm moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 4:34pm: I dunno Of course you know. Provide the verse from the Quran, please. There must be something on Jihadwatch.
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #286 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 4:41pm

this site tells us in part:

Amount of Text Devoted to the Kafir

The Koran says that the Kafir may be deceived, plotted against, hated, enslaved, mocked, tortured and worse. The word is usually translated as “unbeliever” but this translation is wrong. The word “unbeliever” is logically and emotionally neutral, whereas, Kafir is the most abusive, prejudiced and hateful word in any language.

Islam devotes a great amount of energy to the Kafir. The majority (64%) of the Koran is devoted to the Kafir, and nearly all of the Sira (81%) deals with Mohammed’s struggle with them. The Hadith (Traditions) devotes 32% of the text to Kafirs1. Overall, the Trilogy devotes 60% of its content to the Kafir.

Hadith 37%
Sira 81%
Koran 64%
Total 60%

Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #287 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 4:47pm

moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 4:41pm:

this site tells us in part:

Amount of Text Devoted to the Kafir

The Koran says that the Kafir may be deceived, plotted against, hated, enslaved, mocked, tortured and worse. The word is usually translated as “unbeliever” but this translation is wrong. The word “unbeliever” is logically and emotionally neutral, whereas, Kafir is the most abusive, prejudiced and hateful word in any language.

Islam devotes a great amount of energy to the Kafir. The majority (64%) of the Koran is devoted to the Kafir, and nearly all of the Sira (81%) deals with Mohammed’s struggle with them. The Hadith (Traditions) devotes 32% of the text to Kafirs1. Overall, the Trilogy devotes 60% of its content to the Kafir.

Hadith 37%
Sira 81%
Koran 64%
Total 60%

Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly.

I see. So the Muselman is instructed by his moon god Allah to form international drug and money laundering syndicates in order to get the kafir, eh?

Is that it?

Ee-gad. They're even more devious than we imagined.

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Reply #288 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 5:00pm

You missed the boat, most likely deliberately, however for your good self I reiterate:

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I would say they haven't suddenly had a change of heart and all turned into anti drug campaigners they're still here more powerful than ever, so for mine Pauline was right on the money.

But they're old news, the big one today is your beliefs and their associated religious terrorist consequences.

We, right now, are in the process of destroying the lies of the muslims and their leftard apologists, that's the major threat on a global scale.

So for your selective comprehension problem, we moved the conversation on from Asian drug gangs to islamic terrorism.

Now you've come all asunder as it's your psyche to defend and exonerate muslim terrorism, but sorry the world waits for no one, so you'll have to try harder to control your selective comprehension.

You know the muzzies are the world wide threat, oops there I go again and got you in a tizz again, sorry.

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Reply #289 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 5:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Fine, lets call it sectarian violence - you can call it a roast chicken for all I care. They are still victims.

What do Muslims call it, when they slaughter each other for the correct Islamic path?
And why don't they talk to each other? Better to kill than talk?

Wait, I know. The Great Satan makes them do it. Before that, the Little Satan. Before that - what? In any case, muslim have been slaughter Muslims since the day Mohammed died because somebody MAKES them. They couldn't possible be hold responsible for slaughtering each other. That would be Islamophobia.

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Reply #290 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:28pm

moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 5:00pm:

You missed the boat, most likely deliberately, however for your good self I reiterate:

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I would say they haven't suddenly had a change of heart and all turned into anti drug campaigners they're still here more powerful than ever, so for mine Pauline was right on the money.

But they're old news, the big one today is your beliefs and their associated religious terrorist consequences.

We, right now, are in the process of destroying the lies of the muslims and their leftard apologists, that's the major threat on a global scale.

So for your selective comprehension problem, we moved the conversation on from Asian drug gangs to islamic terrorism.

I see. What made you choose to do that?

I'm genuinely curious.

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Reply #291 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

Sorry FD, here's me thinking how infantile the premise of the question was - but repeating it over and over and over has finally done the trick - and I've suddenly understood how spineless and tricky I was being ignoring such a legitimate, objective and profound question. Forgive me. Here you go, with some rounding:

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 12:14pm:

How many converts did Muhammad recruit before he started slaughtering innocent people and robbing traders?

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How many after?

5000000000

That about right do you think FD?

It's close Gandalf. I can understand your hostility to the question. Would you like to have another go?

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

moses wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 2:01pm:

A true lefty.

so afraid to be honest when it comes to islamic terrorism.

Petrified that islam will implode and Christianity will survive.

Whether it does or not, Moses, I am sure you will be there, leading the Christian Soldiers as they forcibly baptise all the Muslims to the one true faith, hey? I can just see you, Bible in hand, singing your Hymns as you use your sword to forcibly convert all the supposedly Godless Hordes before you.

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That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

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Reply #292 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 8:35pm

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

And that is reprised today in various places where Muslims demand that you recite a bit of a Muslim shiboleth and will kill you if you can't.

The Dark Ages are not over in large swathes of the earth, especially Muslim dominated swathes (and some others, of course, to be fair to every barbarian. Because one must be fair to barbarians, as if they were not barbarians. Inclusivity, innit. )

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Reply #293 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 12:06am:

Bertie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2018 at 9:54pm:

Christians never blamed anyone else, least of all the Muslims for these problems. They got on with sorting them out without saying that they were someone else's problem.

Ah, yes. So, who were the IRA again? Christians. Who caused the IRA to become Terrorists again? The IRA or was it the Protestants? How about the Genocide in the Balkans? Who's fault was it again? Oh, it wasn't the Christians, it was the Muslims, according to the Christians. How about Rwanda? Who's fault was it again? The Tutsis, not the Hutus...

No on blames themselves for what happens in the world. They always blame someone else, invariably the victims. The Germans blamed the Jews, the British the French, and so on and so on... Roll Eyes

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Muslims do not seem to be able or willing to take responsibility for things that impact their lives. They seem to hold others responsible for their lives. That is wrong.

Really? According to whom? You? Roll Eyes

There is a thread about Muslims being the most numerous victims of Muslim terrorism ("Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism" - I can't post links). There is not even a remote hint about this being something entirely about Muslims. The thread has an opening post about how everyone should feel for the Muslims as they engage in violence against other Muslims. It's a very odd mindset.

The IRA and the Brits never once appealed to the wider world to save them from themselves. Yet Muslims appeal for victimhood sympathies from the wider world when both perpetrators and victims are Muslims. Well, stop killing each other, children, and you won't be victims of Muslim terrorism. Why does this even need to be spelled out for them?

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Reply #294 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:17pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

And that is reprised today in various places where Muslims demand that you recite a bit of a Muslim shiboleth and will kill you if you can't.

The Dark Ages are not over in large swathes of the earth, especially Muslim dominated swathes (and some others, of course, to be fair to every barbarian. Because one must be fair to barbarians, as if they were not barbarians. Inclusivity, innit. )

You should also mention the crusades, or Brian will get very upset.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #296 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:32pm

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

moses wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 2:01pm:

A true lefty.

so afraid to be honest when it comes to islamic terrorism.

Petrified that islam will implode and Christianity will survive.

Whether it does or not, Moses, I am sure you will be there, leading the Christian Soldiers as they forcibly baptise all the Muslims to the one true faith, hey? I can just see you, Bible in hand, singing your Hymns as you use your sword to forcibly convert all the supposedly Godless Hordes before you.

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That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

I've never defended Mohammed's policies in that regard, FD. It was wrong of Mohammed to undertake conversions at the end of a sword. It was though, a long, long, long, time ago. Just as the Jewish conversions were and the Christian conversions were. What a shame you appear unable to pull your head out of the 7th Century Arabian Peninsular into the 21st Century where the rest of us live. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43064	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #297 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:33pm Bertie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:26pm: Is Brian a Muslim? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Are you, Agatha? Tsk, tsk.
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Reply #298 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

moses wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 2:01pm:

A true lefty.

so afraid to be honest when it comes to islamic terrorism.

Petrified that islam will implode and Christianity will survive.

Whether it does or not, Moses, I am sure you will be there, leading the Christian Soldiers as they forcibly baptise all the Muslims to the one true faith, hey? I can just see you, Bible in hand, singing your Hymns as you use your sword to forcibly convert all the supposedly Godless Hordes before you.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/creatista/creatista1002/creatista100200254/650...

That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

I've never defended Mohammed's policies in that regard, FD. It was wrong of Mohammed to undertake conversions at the end of a sword. It was though, a long, long, long, time ago. Just as the Jewish conversions were and the Christian conversions were. What a shame you appear unable to pull your head out of the 7th Century Arabian Peninsular into the 21st Century where the rest of us live. Roll Eyes

Do you have the right or ability to criticise Islam Brian?

Do ISIS supporters live in the 21st century?

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #299 - Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:20pm

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

moses wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 2:01pm:

A true lefty.

so afraid to be honest when it comes to islamic terrorism.

Petrified that islam will implode and Christianity will survive.

Whether it does or not, Moses, I am sure you will be there, leading the Christian Soldiers as they forcibly baptise all the Muslims to the one true faith, hey? I can just see you, Bible in hand, singing your Hymns as you use your sword to forcibly convert all the supposedly Godless Hordes before you.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/creatista/creatista1002/creatista100200254/650...

That was basically the choice faced by many people in Muhammad's time - convert to Islam or die.

I've never defended Mohammed's policies in that regard, FD. It was wrong of Mohammed to undertake conversions at the end of a sword. It was though, a long, long, long, time ago. Just as the Jewish conversions were and the Christian conversions were. What a shame you appear unable to pull your head out of the 7th Century Arabian Peninsular into the 21st Century where the rest of us live. Roll Eyes

Do you have the right or ability to criticise Islam Brian?

Do ISIS supporters live in the 21st century?

Do you have the right to tell porkies in your crusade against the Muselman?

Do you have the right to not be offended?

I can understand your hostility to questions. Would you like to have another go?

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