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Donald Trump needs (and loves) the media
Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:25am
 
Donald Trump’s so-called “war with the media” is a good example of what philosophers mean by an over-determined effect: multiple causes, any one of which would be enough to support it.

Which is to say this “war” (a clumsy and lazy term) will almost certainly continue, despite the periodic discovery by journalists that Trump loves to banter with reporters, and that he lives and dies by the very media coverage that he poisonously calls fake.

The campaign to discredit mainstream journalism is thus a permanent feature of Trump’s political style. Why?

1. Because it’s a base-only presidency with a niche, not a broadcasting strategy.

"Americans are used to candidates who, when they win the nomination, try to bring the party together by embracing those who supported the losers. They are used to nominees who, when they win the White House, try to bring the country together by speaking to voters who did not support them in November. This is normal behavior. This is what they expect from presidents of both parties. Trump rejects all that. His idea is to deepen the attachment between himself and his core supporters so that nothing can disturb that bond."

Attacking the national press corps makes good sense, what with the Republican base in a permanent state of rage at “cognitive elites.” It makes even better sense for a President with a base-only strategy, a decision reflected in the polling data. About a third of the country is with him:

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2. Because this is what they have; they don’t have much else. The Trump presidency is a shambolic mess. As Charlie Warzel and Adrian Carrasquillo of Buzzfeed observed, hating on the media is its most consistent theme.

"Trump has been clear on one issue: the untrustworthy “fake news” purveyors of the media. As he’s struggled to even put into motion the kind of sweeping legislation he promised on the campaign trail, Trump’s relentless focus on the media has been the only constant amid the disorganization. Nine months in, it seems clear that Trump’s only real ideology — and the only true tenet of Trumpism — is to destroy what he believes is a deceitful mainstream media."

3. Because Trump is a creature of media— and its creation. Josh Marshall recently pointed this out: “For all the purported hatred of ‘the media’, the main Trumpers are almost all fundamentally media creatures. They think in media terms. They are media creations.” He’s right about that.

"Trump himself is a self-creation of the 80s and 90s New York City tabloid culture. His comeback in the early part of this century was driven more than most people understand by the success of The Apprentice. Why else do you think people in the Philippines or Kazakhstan paid millions to license Trump’s name? It was the brand driver of the licensing empire which allowed Trump to become the 45th President."

Steve Bannon was a publisher. Before that he was a movie producer. Jared Kushner bought a newspaper and used it to fight his battles in the press. On down the list they are all media people. They don’t hate the media. Indeed, they can only understand most battles in media terms. It’s all they know. They aren’t prepared for anything else.

4. Because people in the White House think “media” warring is governing.

When CNN fired three journalists and retracted a story about the Russia connection, White House staffers were said to be “elated.” By something CNN did. This is weird.

"As he escalates his attacks on the “failing media,” Trump and his allies are increasingly convinced that recent evidence, including the retracted CNN piece on an aspect of the Russia investigations, will prove to skeptical voters that the mainstream media has a vendetta against the administration."

It’s one thing to strut about calling the news media the opposition party. That’s good theatre. It’s another to think you’ve banked a win when the press corrects itself.

5. Because turning reporters into ritualized hate objects is easy to do, supporters love it, and it meets Trump’s need for public displays of dominance.

The press is not popular; we know that. Attacking journalists is a freebie: no price is paid. These things were true long before Trump announced. What he adds is a specific-to-Trump neuroses: his need to dominate others, which was visible in his only full-on press conference as President. Josh Marshall again:

"We’ve collectively been living in Donald Trump’s house now for more than two years. We know him really well. We know that he sees everything through a prism of the dominating and the dominated. It’s a zero-sum economy of power and humiliation. For those in his orbit he demands and gets a slavish adoration. Even those who take on his yoke of indignity are fed a steady diet of mid-grade humiliations to drive home their status and satisfy Trump’s need not only for dominance but unending public displays of dominance. He is a dark, damaged person."
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Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:40am
 
Warring with the news media over freedom and access caters to this need of his. As Josh writes:

Trump’s treatment of the press is really a version of the same game, a set of actions meant to produce the public spectacle of ‘Trump acts; reporters beg.’ ‘Reporters beg and Trump says no.’ Demanding, shaming all amount to trying to force actions which reporters have no ability to compel. That signals weakness. And that’s the point.
If part of this so-called “war” with the press is about the terms under which journalists will be allowed to report on the White House, there will never be peace. Because only by squeezing access can Trump produce the whining and pleading he requires to feel that temporary jolt of pleasure and mastery. Of course, it doesn’t fill the hole in his soul, which is why it must continue.

6. Because it’s the one campaign promise he can definitely keep. He’s not going to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it. He’s not going to bring back coal or revive American manufacturing. He’s not going to be the master negotiator before whom the leaders of sovereign nations cave. None of that will ever unfold.

But smack around the hand-raisers in the press corps? That he can do. It requires no finesse. There is no act of Congress involved. He doesn’t have to master the issue because there is no issue, only a despised “other.” In a sense this is what he came to Washington to do, and he’s going to keep doing it. Virtually the first act of his administration was this: Sean Spicer’s put-down of the press over crowd size at Trump’s inauguration.

7. Because with the Federal government in Republican hands there is an “enemy gap.” Hillary Clinton has been vanquished. Obama is in sunglasses, shopping and playing golf. They don’t make plausible opponents any more. But CNN does.

Listen to Trump’s remarks at the Kennedy Center July 1.

“The fake media is trying to silence us, but we will not let them. The people know the truth. The fake media tried to stop us from going to the White House, but I’m president and they’re not.”

8. Because it binds him to the base, which has been tutored in this resentment since 1969.

The Washington Post:

"For Trump and his legions of loyalists, the media has become a shared enemy. “They like him, they believe in him, they have not to any large degree been shaken from him, and the more the media attacks him, the more it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy on the side of the Trump supporters who fervently believe the media treat him unfairly,” said Tony Fabrizio, the chief pollster for Trump’s campaign. “It’s like, ‘Beat me with that sword some more!’ ”

9. Because they know a lot of bad news has yet to emerge. Especially about Russia. A more competent White House with a more normal president might try to get ahead of the investigation by releasing what is surely going to come out. This White House is incapable of that. Back-up plan: discredit the carriers of the most damaging reports before the reports are carried. Which amounts to an attack on truth via the expected tellers of it.

10. Because the sheer ugliness of the spectacle repels the uncommitted, persuading them that there’s no point in paying attention. The president lacks the political skills needed to both hold on to his most committed supporters and simultaneously make nice with those who are neither core Tump voters nor the resistance. He’s not dexterous enough to manage any of that. What he can do is “depress turnout” by making things as ugly and confusing as possible for the neither-nors— not just on election day but every day.

Continuous culture war with the media serves that end. It depresses daily turnout in the political public sphere. If the only ones who show up are hard core Trump supporters on one side and the committed resistance on the other, the White House will gladly accept that. Unending war with the media is thus a demobilization tactic.

Is this a conscious strategy? Probably not. But it’s still part of the “logic.”

11. Because his fantasy claims during the campaign pre-ordained critical coverage if Trump won. For example: You will have great health care. We will take care of everybody at a fraction of the cost. He actually said this! Philip Bump:

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump told The Washington Post’s Robert Costa and Amy Goldstein during an interview less than a week before his inauguration… The plan would have “lower numbers, much lower deductibles.” The “philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it”? Trump insisted that “that’s not going to happen with us” — implying that there would be universal coverage regardless of income. What’s more, people could “expect to have great health care” that would be “in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.”
There was never a chance that any of that could happen. There was always the certainty that the press would point this failure out.

Trump doesn’t know he lives in a fact-free fantasyland; that’s one of the facts he is blissfully free from. No matter how much he enjoys bantering with reporters, no matter how desperate he is for positive coverage from the "fake news" the irreality at the heart of his presidency guarantees that this conflict with journalists will go on and on.
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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:33pm
 
Trump has no idea about anything. In fact, I've never seen a senior leader quite as ignorant on almost every topic as he is. He knows nothing about politics, nothing about law, nothing and foreign affairs, nothing about science and education and clearly nothing about real estate (after 6 bankruptcies)

Is there anything he is actually an expert at other than bluff and banter?
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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm
 
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.
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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:03pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.



Thats silly. He has an approval rate of 35% which most people think to be extremely generous. Giving that half of them are simply refusing to admit they voted for a moron and thus still giving him thier 'approval', his approval is in the cellar and his DISapproval is at almost record numbers EVER.
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Reply #5 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:33pm:
Trump has no idea about anything. In fact, I've never seen a senior leader quite as ignorant on almost every topic as he is. He knows nothing about politics, nothing about law, nothing and foreign affairs, nothing about science and education and clearly nothing about real estate (after 6 bankruptcies)

Is there anything he is actually an expert at other than bluff and banter?

Is longy guilty of conducting a lazy war? Oh, wait,.. Only trump can be guilty of anything  Shocked
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Reply #6 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.

I can't disagree: whats wrong with me today?
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Reply #7 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.



Thats silly. He has an approval rate of 35% which most people think to be extremely generous. Giving that half of them are simply refusing to admit they voted for a moron and thus still giving him thier 'approval', his approval is in the cellar and his DISapproval is at almost record numbers EVER.

Drama is what drama does!

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Reply #8 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:20pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Thats silly. He has an approval rate of 35% which most people think to be extremely generous.


What about Malcolm Turnbull's approval rating of 34%?

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A total of 46% of voters disapproved of Turnbull, compared with 34% who approved of his performance.


And then there's UK PM with her rating at 34%.

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New Ipsos MORI data shows that just a third (34 per cent) of adults say they are satisfied with Mrs May, compared to 59 per cent that are dissatisfied.


Get a clue, Bucko!

Trump's not doing too badly by comparison with the UK's and Australia's top politicians.
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Reply #9 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 6:00pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.

I can't disagree: whats wrong with me today?



drugs? mental illness?  general stupidity?

take your pick...
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Reply #10 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 6:55pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.



Thats silly. He has an approval rate of 35% which most people think to be extremely generous. Giving that half of them are simply refusing to admit they voted for a moron and thus still giving him thier 'approval', his approval is in the cellar and his DISapproval is at almost record numbers EVER.


33, I believe. And you haven't stopped reading about Mr Trump since he ran.

In fact, I don't think you've posted about anything else.
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Reply #11 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 7:07pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.

I can't disagree: whats wrong with me today?


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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 6:00pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.

I can't disagree: whats wrong with me today?



drugs? mental illness?  general stupidity?

take your pick...

Who cares what you say broseph?

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Reply #13 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 7:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 7:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.

I can't disagree: whats wrong with me today?


Nothing, Death. You're just how God made you.

Maybe I can give you a credit point for that one!

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Reply #14 - Nov 2nd, 2017 at 12:28am
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 6:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
It's a two-way street. The media need Mr Trump. Since he entered the race for the presidency, ratings, circulation and hits have gone through the roof.

This applies to both mainstream and FAKE news. Love him or hate him, the people want Trump.



Thats silly. He has an approval rate of 35% which most people think to be extremely generous. Giving that half of them are simply refusing to admit they voted for a moron and thus still giving him thier 'approval', his approval is in the cellar and his DISapproval is at almost record numbers EVER.


33, I believe. And you haven't stopped reading about Mr Trump since he ran.

In fact, I don't think you've posted about anything else.


You might want to check your facts. Probably the same pollsters that predicted a landslide to Hillary.

98% of those who voted for Trump said they would still vote for him.

So despite the media blitzkrieg his approval rating must still be close to 50%.

Logic innit? Cupcake.
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