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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 48734 Gender:	Re: I found a Hand-Gun Reply #75 - Dec 6^th, 2017 at 12:49am Yep Mortdooley. I need a Nanny when it comes to guns. But hey, put a Bastard of a Sword in my hand and I'll show you how to be a cut above the rest.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7113 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: I found a Hand-Gun Reply #76 - Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:18am Jasin wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 12:49am: Yep Mortdooley. I need a Nanny when it comes to guns. But hey, put a Bastard of a Sword in my hand and I'll show you how to be a cut above the rest. What pattern of sword do you prefer? I bought a dragon head samurai sword, I would be a danger to myself if I handled it much.
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Reply #77 - Dec 6^th, 2017 at 11:45am

Samurai swords are technically superior to most traditional swords. They are so strong, sharp etc. But sword fighting is more than just a one sided slash. This is where the samurai swords fall short. Unless they can get the first effective strike: hitting the opponent of breaking the opponent's sword. They are flawed in the way one must use them to follow through with a one-sided edge. You need extreme wrist manoeuvres to bring such a sword around for another swing quickly. Especially with the longer versions. Even then, doing it by wrist lessens the strength of impact.

I do prefer double-sided swords. If I miss on the first strike, I can automatically bring it back quickly to strike with the other side. No need to get wristy or twist my shoulders. It's fast and effective.

Now, if someone could make a Double-Edged sword with the quality of a Katana sword ...then we are in business!
But I doubt it will happen as most of the strength of the Samurai sword is held in the blunt side. It really is just a long strong face shaving razor.

I have favourites. I like the Cutlass styles because they would be the all-round type of sword fighting. One-sided is their only drawback. But they are, as they say, good for close quarter confrontations with minimal movement.

Foils are good and extremely fast work. But you have to be very precise in your targeting or the opponent can still persevere in his attack with a good conventional sword and brush away any foil defence, if not break it. So a slice across the throat or into the heart is really the only sure bet for a foil not receiving a retaliation. If opponent is well armoured in such places - the Foil fighter would well and truly be "Drats! Foiled again!".

So I guess my choice Sword would be the Excalibur type. But a shorter version, not the traditional 'Long Sword'. Double-Edged, good weighted pommel and length suited to close quarter combat. The Hilt and pommel must be very practical more than artistic as it really has to be suited to comfortable and efficient use.
...when Sword fighting. You fight with the aspect that the blade is just the extension of your Hilt/Pommel. In other words - you are just throwing punches and the blade is the bonus. It's like teaching a sprinter to run 120m rather than the actual 100m. This way, you teach the sprinter not to pull up early at the 98th metre, as they are want to do - in the end. Same with Sword fighting. Teach them to fight as if their blade is but 20cm long and with always a far heavier training sword.

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Re: I found a Hand-Gun
Reply #79 - Dec 7^th, 2017 at 7:34pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 11:45am:

Samurai swords are technically superior to most traditional swords. They are so strong, sharp etc. But sword fighting is more than just a one sided slash. This is where the samurai swords fall short. Unless they can get the first effective strike: hitting the opponent of breaking the opponent's sword. They are flawed in the way one must use them to follow through with a one-sided edge. You need extreme wrist manoeuvres to bring such a sword around for another swing quickly. Especially with the longer versions. Even then, doing it by wrist lessens the strength of impact.

I do prefer double-sided swords. If I miss on the first strike, I can automatically bring it back quickly to strike with the other side. No need to get wristy or twist my shoulders. It's fast and effective.

Now, if someone could make a Double-Edged sword with the quality of a Katana sword ...then we are in business!
But I doubt it will happen as most of the strength of the Samurai sword is held in the blunt side. It really is just a long strong face shaving razor.

I have favourites. I like the Cutlass styles because they would be the all-round type of sword fighting. One-sided is their only drawback. But they are, as they say, good for close quarter confrontations with minimal movement.

Foils are good and extremely fast work. But you have to be very precise in your targeting or the opponent can still persevere in his attack with a good conventional sword and brush away any foil defence, if not break it. So a slice across the throat or into the heart is really the only sure bet for a foil not receiving a retaliation. If opponent is well armoured in such places - the Foil fighter would well and truly be "Drats! Foiled again!".

So I guess my choice Sword would be the Excalibur type. But a shorter version, not the traditional 'Long Sword'. Double-Edged, good weighted pommel and length suited to close quarter combat. The Hilt and pommel must be very practical more than artistic as it really has to be suited to comfortable and efficient use.
...when Sword fighting. You fight with the aspect that the blade is just the extension of your Hilt/Pommel. In other words - you are just throwing punches and the blade is the bonus. It's like teaching a sprinter to run 120m rather than the actual 100m. This way, you teach the sprinter not to pull up early at the 98th metre, as they are want to do - in the end. Same with Sword fighting. Teach them to fight as if their blade is but 20cm long and with always a far heavier training sword.

Take peek here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/scholagladiatoria

Maybe you'll find something interesting.

Some sabre work here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19hR04Ckb8

Something to consider if using a real katana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4

When using a bladed weapon, it is always wise to gauge the expertise of the opponent.

An interesting option is the old straight razor. As a concealable self-defence option, it really takes a lot of beating. That is, of course, if you don't mind staining your Nikes.

When using a razor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEVqFB4WUo

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Reply #80 - Dec 26^th, 2017 at 5:05pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 3:18pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 2:10pm:

That is a great idea Herb until you get busted with a handgun in your possession.

Several years gaol is very possible.

Nonsense.

I've been in Australia since 1962 with not even a parking ticket. Just the other day a highway cop told me I'm "Not in the system" while scratching his head in disbelief. He consequently let me go for riding my electric bike without it being registered.

THAT's the sort of service you get when you've been a compliant and model citizen for all of the past 55 years ..... He was practically bowing to me. I told him to smarten up his act next time and not bother me again. He drove off in a cloud of apologies.

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As for this Texas nutter, the very fact that he had been dishonourably discharged from the army should have been enough to have barred him from owning a gun.

It's not that gun-ownership is rampant in the US, but that the people who shouldn't be entitled to own a gun are not being identified and denied a weapon to take home with them.

The US population is 323 million people, and of course there are going to be incidences like this due to the sheer number of people in the population pool. The miracle is that it doesn't happen more often, and especially because Hollywood's success has for decades been dependent on sex-and-VIOLENCE being the core ingredient of its entertainment business.

dear lord... I wasn't even born then... Grin

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Re: I found a Hand-Gun
Reply #81 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:46am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

No charge thankfully.

This is why I joined the Medical side of things.
I'm the 'tool', when it comes to guns. Tongue

The excitement, adrenalin - really clouded my judgement.
I was lucky that I used a doggy do-do bag to pick it up (it was dirty) and work-gloves to handle it at home.
All that I could think of at the time was "It's mine. It came to me. My preciousss" etc.
Mainly because there is no other way that I could attain such a thing, unless I go through all the correct procedures.
I mean, what would you do if you found a bag of money?
Hand it in to the Police straight away, let alone call them asap to the spot??
It's done and dusted now.

At least you won't be charged.
Sometimes they leave you hanging for 6 months
not knowing if they will charge you or not.

Are they going to check the rounds for prints?

They sent it off to some Forensic place in Sydney and within 6 hours the prints on the gun came back as 'un-identified' (not on record). So 'so far-so good' for me. Hence why I was kept at the station all night, until the result came back. But I'm sure 'I'm still on record' Tongue

Next time just walk on by:

JaSin has learnt his lesson -

don't get involved - keep quiet.

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Re: I found a Hand-Gun
Reply #82 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 7:36am

It was quite an experience.
Since then, I've kept my hands off them.
In Ukraine they've tried to push them onto me, while I had my work stint there, in the hope I would feel some sort of desire to join their ranks. You get offered a lot of free 'kit' and guns (and women) but they couldn't buy me as much as my client employer already had. It wasn't the idea of fighting with a gun in my hands against drones and bombardments. More like fighting alongside savage Ex Soviets against Ex Soviets basically.

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Reply #83 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 7:47am

Jasin wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 7:36am:

It was quite an experience.
Since then, I've kept my hands off them.
In Ukraine they've tried to push them onto me, while I had my work stint there, in the hope I would feel some sort of desire to join their ranks. You get offered a lot of free 'kit' and guns (and women) but they couldn't buy me as much as my client employer already had. It wasn't the idea of fighting with a gun in my hands against drones and bombardments. More like fighting alongside savage Ex Soviets against Ex Soviets basically.

In Ukraine they are fighting successfully at drones using shot guns.

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Reply #84 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 9:21am

Jasin wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 7:36am:

It was quite an experience.
Since then, I've kept my hands off them.
In Ukraine they've tried to push them onto me, while I had my work stint there, in the hope I would feel some sort of desire to join their ranks. You get offered a lot of free 'kit' and guns (and women) but they couldn't buy me as much as my client employer already had. It wasn't the idea of fighting with a gun in my hands against drones and bombardments. More like fighting alongside savage Ex Soviets against Ex Soviets basically.

In Ukrainian hospital you could get few spare hands in salt as well. They sell body parts at good price.

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