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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Trump tries to undermine DOJ Nov 4^th, 2017 at 4:52pm http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/trump-hints-at-doj-targeting... trump is now trying to get the DOJ to charge and convict his political opponents, an illegal act. How do you trumptards think that subverting the rule of law and trying to jail his opponents is a good idea? Because you do, right?
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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58234 Here Gender:	Re: Trump tries to undermine DOJ Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:59pm How could they elect this bozo as president when he was a natural for the lead role in "IT".
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Reply #2 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm

Nothing wrong with pointing at the obvious criminality from the Left. He didn't order them to investigate, he pointed out that the crimes are from the other side.

Trump is a problem solver, a pragmatist, a believer in Christ, and a great builder. He sees our nation and the world with new eyes and a willingness to meet its urgencies head on. The other presidents were presidents in name only (PINO). Trump is the first genuine president, and the Globalists and elitists hate it.

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Reply #3 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 1:10am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

Nothing wrong with pointing at the obvious criminality from the Left. He didn't order them to investigate, he pointed out that the crimes are from the other side.

Trump is a problem solver, a pragmatist, a believer in Christ, and a great builder. He sees our nation and the world with new eyes and a willingness to meet its urgencies head on. The other presidents were presidents in name only (PINO). Trump is the first genuine president, and the Globalists and elitists hate it.

Yes!

They're losing control - that's what they hate in Trump.

Trump will not do anything remotely illegal. To suggest he will is pure ignorance.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Trump tries to undermine DOJ Reply #4 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am Trump is breaching boundaries. He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.
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Reply #5 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:14am

AiA wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am:

Trump is breaching boundaries.

He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.

Boundaries set by who?

The Congress, the Supreme Court, or the U.S. Constitution?

Congress is constrained by Law.......the Supreme Court merely defines/interprets existing Law.......
the U.S. Constitution is the Law by which all law must conform.

If President Trump is "breaching boundaries" those boundaries, in order to be enforced, or observed, must be clear & concise, written in supporting legal documentation......& least of all, these so called "boundaries" can not be imaginary, theoretical, customary, or even determined by written or unwritten precedents, without a firm foundation in existing Law.

So I ask again, specifically, if President Trump is breaching boundaries, they are boundaries set by who & documented where?

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Reply #6 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/trump-hints-at-doj-targeting...

trump is now trying to get the DOJ to charge and convict his political opponents, an illegal act......

If, as any citizen has the right to do, the President has the right to express his opinion, & in expressing that opinion he, as the Chief Executive, also has the right to strongly suggest that the Attorney General, a member of his Cabinet, the President's direct subordinate, look into the matter, & if the AG determines that law(s) have or might have been broken, can have the possible offenders (remember, innocent until proven guilty) subjected to charges.

Everything above is absolutely legal, & within the powers of the Chief Executive of the Administration.

If not legal, please....by all means.....point out why the President does not have such "legal" ability, not to actually prosecute potential criminal activity, but to suggest that if there was illegal activity, that those who do prosecute such activity, strongly consider doing so, so if the President can't do that, note specifically what U.S. Laws are being "broken", & how. Nothing in your video does anything close to that, except the commentator saying it's illegal, which doesn't make it so.

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Reply #7 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

Nothing wrong with pointing at the obvious criminality from the Left. He didn't order them to investigate, he pointed out that the crimes are from the other side.

Trump is a problem solver, a pragmatist, a believer in Christ, and a great builder. He sees our nation and the world with new eyes and a willingness to meet its urgencies head on. The other presidents were presidents in name only (PINO). Trump is the first genuine president, and the Globalists and elitists hate it.

How naive are you? He does not go to Church. He has never gone to Church. He cannot quote a single bible verse. He doesnt understand Christian doctrine. And then there is his behaviour... about as unchristian as it gets.

'believer in Christ'... I doubt he even believes (or knows) that Jesus is a real historical figure. He hadnt heard of the civil war before this year..

Seriously... how gullible are you?

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Reply #8 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:30pm

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

AiA wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am:

Trump is breaching boundaries.

He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.

Boundaries set by who?

The Congress, the Supreme Court, or the U.S. Constitution?

Congress is constrained by Law.......the Supreme Court merely defines/interprets existing Law.......
the U.S. Constitution is the Law by which all law must conform.

If President Trump is "breaching boundaries" those boundaries, in order to be enforced, or observed, must be clear & concise, written in supporting legal documentation......& least of all, these so called "boundaries" can not be imaginary, theoretical, customary, or even determined by written or unwritten precedents, without a firm foundation in existing Law.

So I ask again, specifically, if President Trump is breaching boundaries, they are boundaries set by who & documented where?

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I do wonder what it would take for Trump to do so that you would disapprove of that act, nevermind drop support of him. At this stage I think Trump could be accused of child rape, mass corruption, bribery and seeking to overthrow the constitution and you would still support him.

Funnily enough... he has done all of those things.

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Reply #9 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

AiA wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am:

Trump is breaching boundaries.

He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.

Boundaries set by who?

The Congress, the Supreme Court, or the U.S. Constitution?

Congress is constrained by Law.......the Supreme Court merely defines/interprets existing Law.......
the U.S. Constitution is the Law by which all law must conform.

If President Trump is "breaching boundaries" those boundaries, in order to be enforced, or observed, must be clear & concise, written in supporting legal documentation......& least of all, these so called "boundaries" can not be imaginary, theoretical, customary, or even determined by written or unwritten precedents, without a firm foundation in existing Law.

So I ask again, specifically, if President Trump is breaching boundaries, they are boundaries set by who & documented where?

http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/imthinkin6.gif

I do wonder what it would take for Trump to do so that you would disapprove of that act, nevermind drop support of him. At this stage I think Trump could be accused of child rape, mass corruption, bribery and seeking to overthrow the constitution and you would still support him.

Funnily enough... he has done all of those things.

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Didn't think you had the intelligence enough to find the answer.....I was 100% correct again..... .....you haven got a clue how.....you're that ignorant.....even Bojacks smarter than you ...... but I know the verifiable answer, & why is that.....it's because I have forgotten more about the Constitution, & American History in a blink of an eye, than you could ever hope to learn in 2 lifetimes!

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Reply #10 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:44pm

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

AiA wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am:

Trump is breaching boundaries.

He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.

Boundaries set by who?

The Congress, the Supreme Court, or the U.S. Constitution?

Congress is constrained by Law.......the Supreme Court merely defines/interprets existing Law.......
the U.S. Constitution is the Law by which all law must conform.

If President Trump is "breaching boundaries" those boundaries, in order to be enforced, or observed, must be clear & concise, written in supporting legal documentation......& least of all, these so called "boundaries" can not be imaginary, theoretical, customary, or even determined by written or unwritten precedents, without a firm foundation in existing Law.

So I ask again, specifically, if President Trump is breaching boundaries, they are boundaries set by who & documented where?

http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/imthinkin6.gif

I do wonder what it would take for Trump to do so that you would disapprove of that act, nevermind drop support of him. At this stage I think Trump could be accused of child rape, mass corruption, bribery and seeking to overthrow the constitution and you would still support him.

Funnily enough... he has done all of those things.

QED

Didn't think you had the intelligence enough to find the answer.....I was 100% correct again..... .....you haven got a clue how.....you're that ignorant.....even Bojacks smarter than you ...... but I know the verifiable answer, & why is that.....it's because I have forgotten more about the Constitution, & American History in a blink of an eye, than you could ever hope to learn in 2 lifetimes!

And yet, you think the US Military can be used against the Americna People.

I also note that you did not reject my claim that there is literally nothing Trump could do that you would not agree with and support. e could try and nuke Europe and you'd support it. Right?

I asked you once to identify an substantial act that you would disagree with if Trump did it and naturally... you didnt even answer. Want to try now oh (self-proclaimed) expert on US law.

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Reply #11 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

AiA wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 4:45am:

Trump is breaching boundaries.

He doesn't understand that he is no longer the CEO on the Apprentice.

Boundaries set by who?

The Congress, the Supreme Court, or the U.S. Constitution?

Congress is constrained by Law.......the Supreme Court merely defines/interprets existing Law.......
the U.S. Constitution is the Law by which all law must conform.

If President Trump is "breaching boundaries" those boundaries, in order to be enforced, or observed, must be clear & concise, written in supporting legal documentation......& least of all, these so called "boundaries" can not be imaginary, theoretical, customary, or even determined by written or unwritten precedents, without a firm foundation in existing Law.

So I ask again, specifically, if President Trump is breaching boundaries, they are boundaries set by who & documented where?

http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/imthinkin6.gif

I do wonder what it would take for Trump to do so that you would disapprove of that act, nevermind drop support of him. At this stage I think Trump could be accused of child rape, mass corruption, bribery and seeking to overthrow the constitution and you would still support him.

Funnily enough... he has done all of those things.

QED

Didn't think you had the intelligence enough to find the answer.....I was 100% correct again..... .....you haven got a clue how.....you're that ignorant.....even Bojacks smarter than you ...... but I know the verifiable answer, & why is that.....it's because I have forgotten more about the Constitution, & American History in a blink of an eye, than you could ever hope to learn in 2 lifetimes!

And yet, you think the US Military can be used against the Americna People.

The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255)

Also...... ".......I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;......"

Foreign or Domestic

I also note that you did not reject my claim that there is literally nothing Trump could do that you would not agree with and support. e could try and nuke Europe and you'd support it. Right?

I asked you once to identify an substantial act that you would disagree with if Trump did it and naturally... you didnt even answer. Want to try now oh (self-proclaimed) expert on US law.

No, I have nothing to prove to you, you're beneath me, & not worthy of my further consideration.

You're a waste of my good time.

I refuse to play your game(s).

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Trump tries to undermine DOJ Reply #12 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 12:40am Trump's "efforts" are impeachable offenses.
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11400 Gender:	Re: Trump tries to undermine DOJ Reply #13 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 11:05am AiA wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 12:40am: Trump's "efforts" are impeachable offenses. Ideological words......but, please provide us all your bona fide references that would substantiate that personal assumption.
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