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Reply #30 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:20pm:

These days, it's more commonly referred to as Anti-social Personality Disorder .. but yes indeed, that's them.

There are of course, other signs.

"Anti-Social Personality Disorder' is the Far Left PC version of saying they're psychopaths.

It's like the Far Left PC version of the word 'rape' which they like to dampen down as 'sexual assault' ~ a term that can mean anything from a teacher putting his hands on a schoolgirl's shoulders just for a moment to show approval for something she's done well, to full-on anal intercourse as rape.

I'm sure Cods, Gordy and AiA won't mind if you to prefer to refer to them as psychopaths (i think the boy in the back row would like to refer to them as sociopaths).

Just know that that's not in the DSM-5.

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Reply #32 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:44pm

Vivisection would soon settle the question of whether prawns feel pain. And examining their nerve system would also confirm that they do indeed feel pain.

Prawns have defence systems, and that alone testifies to the presence of pain receptors.

When I buy my usual 10 dollars worth of Tiger Prawns down at the Fish shop I always ask if they were killed humanely and with dignity.

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Reply #33 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:45pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Okay, so Cods, Gordy and AiA think it's okay to whatever you want to animals. That there is no such thing as animal abuse.

How can you abuse something that isn't sentient?

Now, do you know what is known about people who think it's okay to abuse animals? Or should i tell you?

I'm ok with raising and consumption of animals, as is Greg. I've not said a thing about the process so stop filling in the gaps. If you're going to put me on your list of shame, Greg the pork knuckle fan needs to be right there with me.

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Reply #34 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:47pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:44pm:

Vivisection would soon settle the question of whether prawns feel pain. And examining their nerve system would also confirm that they do indeed feel pain.

Prawns have defence systems, and that alone testifies to the presence of pain receptors.

When I buy my usual 10 dollars worth of Tiger Prawns down at the Fish shop I always ask if they were killed humanely and with dignity.

FD doesn't want to say why he thinks prawns might not feel pain.

I suspect that when we get to the bottom of his reasoning on that, whole windows into FD's consciousness will appear before us.

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Reply #35 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:48pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Okay, so Cods, Gordy and AiA think it's okay to whatever you want to animals. That there is no such thing as animal abuse.

How can you abuse something that isn't sentient?

Now, do you know what is known about people who think it's okay to abuse animals? Or should i tell you?

I'm ok with raising and consumption of animals, as is Greg. I've not said a thing about the process so stop filling in the gaps. If you're going to put me on your list of shame, Greg the pork knuckle fan needs to be right there with me.

No, just on the passing of it into law that animals don't feel pain and do not have emotions, you respond with a picture of flesh.

Telling. Not just about your psyche, about your overall level of sophistication ... although neither were really in any doubt.

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Reply #36 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:50pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 11:35am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 11:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 11:05am:

I lost the bet with myself.

"Which moron will try to show how macho he is by saying something about how tasty animals are, or how much fun they are to shoot - Gordon or Baronvonrort?", I asked.

Baron was my choice - I was wrong.

Now tell me about that vegan pork knuckle you love so much

Gordy is absolutely obsessed with posting pictures of flesh .. i think he;'s trying to upset me.

It's like having my pigtails

I actually ate pigtails in Laos. Boiled then BBQ, not bad actually. I'm a big believer in the nose to tail philosophy.

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Reply #37 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:50pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:44pm:

Vivisection would soon settle the question of whether prawns feel pain. And examining their nerve system would also confirm that they do indeed feel pain.

Prawns have defence systems, and that alone testifies to the presence of pain receptors.

When I buy my usual 10 dollars worth of Tiger Prawns down at the Fish shop I always ask if they were killed humanely and with dignity.

And what answer do you get?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95327 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #38 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:52pm freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:28pm: [quote] We had this discussion about prawns recently, and Mothra was not even willing to say whether she thought they felt pain. Good point, FD, we'll ask you (again). Do prawns feel pain?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95327 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #39 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:53pm Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:50pm: I'm a big believer in the nose to tail philosophy. Miam miam.
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Reply #40 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:54pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Okay, so Cods, Gordy and AiA think it's okay to whatever you want to animals. That there is no such thing as animal abuse.

How can you abuse something that isn't sentient?

Now, do you know what is known about people who think it's okay to abuse animals? Or should i tell you?

I'm ok with raising and consumption of animals, as is Greg. I've not said a thing about the process so stop filling in the gaps. If you're going to put me on your list of shame, Greg the pork knuckle fan needs to be right there with me.

No, just on the passing of it into law that animals don't feel pain and do not have emotions, you respond with a picture of flesh.

Telling. Not just about your psyche, about your overall level of sophistication ... although neither were really in any doubt.

I wish I didn't post it

Im actually on only pulses and potatoes for a few days and feeling a bit unsatiated after looking at that delicious bbq. Nom nom.

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Reply #41 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:57pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Okay, so Cods, Gordy and AiA think it's okay to whatever you want to animals. That there is no such thing as animal abuse.

How can you abuse something that isn't sentient?

Now, do you know what is known about people who think it's okay to abuse animals? Or should i tell you?

I'm ok with raising and consumption of animals, as is Greg. I've not said a thing about the process so stop filling in the gaps. If you're going to put me on your list of shame, Greg the pork knuckle fan needs to be right there with me.

No, just on the passing of it into law that animals don't feel pain and do not have emotions, you respond with a picture of flesh.

Telling. Not just about your psyche, about your overall level of sophistication ... although neither were really in any doubt.

I wish I didn't post it

Im actually on only pulses and potatoes for a few days and feeling a bit unsatiated after looking at that delicious bbq. Nom nom.

Yet still, when the thought of animals comes up, you think of meat. You think of them dead for you.

I think of my pets and how much i love them and know they love me. How i know they respond to pain, irritation, discomfort and equally, pleasure, happiness, excitement and love.

It's a bit like how you think of two men having anal sex when you think about homosexuality.

It's all very revealing.

And regretting your initial response? A sure sign of poor impulse control. Diagnostically relevant.

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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5808 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #42 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm Seriously, why do some of you keep responding to threads that are only meant as a means to bash posters they don't like and prolong senseless negativity? What's wrong with you? It's trolling, but you already know that!
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47479 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #43 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:46pm Black Orchid wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm: Seriously, why do some of you keep responding to threads that are only meant as a means to bash posters they don't like and prolong senseless negativity? What's wrong with you? x2 Spot on Black Orchid.
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Reply #44 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:52pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm:

Seriously, why do some of you keep responding to threads that are only meant as a means to bash posters they don't like and prolong senseless negativity?

What's wrong with you?

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Spot on Black Orchid.

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No spots on the immaculate Black Orchid.

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