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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #45 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 2:05pm Love, aka Brother Love wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:01pm: I fear Mad Cow Disease! Keep away from the tinned Mothball then......
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35293 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #46 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 2:07pm How is it trolling to try to raise awareness about animals being considered by law not to feel pain or emotions? I would say the trolling has come from Cods, Gordon and AiA, yes?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95327 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #47 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 2:16pm mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 2:07pm: How is it trolling to try to raise awareness about animals being considered by law not to feel pain or emotions? Because FD uses them as live bait, Mother, that's why. Do prawns feel pain? You keep avoiding this question. What sound does a jellyfish make?
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Reply #48 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 2:57pm

I don't know whether prawns or jellyfish feel pain. It's a rough ocean for them if they do.

But seriously I think there is a distinction between the lower and higher orders of life when it comes to these issues, unless you want us all to eat grass - does grass feel pain? Better speak to Tiger Woods, he must be whopping the proverbial out of those divots.

But having had exposure to cattle and horses, as well as the real rulers of the planet, the cats & dogs, I am in no doubt as to their perception not only of physical cruelty but emotional cruelty as well.
Ergo, it behoves our society, which purports to be in advance of certain others which shall remain nameless, to adhere to the strictest tests and inspections when it comes to slaughter. Just as we expect proper euthanasia for our pets but sadly not for ourselves.

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Reply #49 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:08pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Okay, so Cods, Gordy and AiA think it's okay to whatever you want to animals. That there is no such thing as animal abuse.

How can you abuse something that isn't sentient?

Now, do you know what is known about people who think it's okay to abuse animals? Or should i tell you?

I'm ok with raising and consumption of animals, as is Greg. I've not said a thing about the process so stop filling in the gaps. If you're going to put me on your list of shame, Greg the pork knuckle fan needs to be right there with me.

No, just on the passing of it into law that animals don't feel pain and do not have emotions, you respond with a picture of flesh.

Telling. Not just about your psyche, about your overall level of sophistication ... although neither were really in any doubt.

I wish I didn't post it

Im actually on only pulses and potatoes for a few days and feeling a bit unsatiated after looking at that delicious bbq. Nom nom.

I see I am now being accused of animal cruelty??>. Roll Eyes

nothing new there of course...

the facts are this..

I wouldnt harm any animal in fact I am sure a few will understand when I say I like animals more than some humans... Sad

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however we are talking ab out a deal written in another country for another country....it is in fact none of our business...

but being a realist as much as I dislike it I realise it is a fact of life today..

and yes for all you MUSLIM WORSHIPPERS it goes on in the country EVERY DAY..

can you explain the difference between this type of slaughter

being allowed in Australia and being allowed in Britain????>..

lets clarify that bit first..

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20507 Gordon Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #50 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:49pm I wonder if Moths lectures Aboriginals on animal cruelty or do they get a pass on the soft bigotry of lower expectations?
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10975 Australia Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #51 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:55pm In the wild predators start to eat their prey whilst its still alive. The prey or any wounded creature then goes into shock which alleviates the pain until it dies.
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Reply #52 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:58pm

Ajax wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:55pm:

In the wild predators start to eat their prey whilst its still alive.

The prey or any wounded creature then goes into shock which alleviates the pain until it dies.

Being killed by a big cat would be best as they tend to kill their prey first. Dogs and bears just eat it alive, usually starting at the anus.

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Reply #53 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:02pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Ajax wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:55pm:

In the wild predators start to eat their prey whilst its still alive.

The prey or any wounded creature then goes into shock which alleviates the pain until it dies.

Being killed by a big cat would be best as they tend to kill their prey first. Dogs and bears just eat it alive, usually starting at the anus.

Yep the best would be for it to snap your vertebrae with its k9's around the neck rather than being asphyxiated.

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Reply #54 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:51pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:49pm:

I wonder if Moths lectures Aboriginals on animal cruelty or do they get a pass on the soft bigotry of lower expectations?

I never here them complain about HALAL meat in THIS COUNTRY....talk about double standards.,

do cows feel pain.. I think they do thats why we decent people stun them first not after they have tried to kill them with a knife.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20507 Gordon Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #55 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:54pm When I buy a piece of 6 month aged t bone and Chuck it on the Weber, does it feel pain?
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Reply #56 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:59pm

cods wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:49pm:

I wonder if Moths lectures Aboriginals on animal cruelty or do they get a pass on the soft bigotry of lower expectations?

I never here them complain about HALAL meat in THIS COUNTRY....talk about double standards.,

do cows feel pain.. I think they do thats why we decent people stun them first not after they have tried to kill them with a knife.

Animals are stunned in this country before they are killed halal.

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?

Oh, and stunning is in itself cruel. Always amazes me how people like you think our meat comes from animals who walk willingly and peacefully to slaughter.

No idea at all.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35293 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #57 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:00pm And still, on a thread intended to discuss the fact that it has passed into law that animals don;t feel pain or feel emotions, the trolls only want to talk about animals being killed. It's not even a little bit how my mind works. You are a troubling bunch.
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Reply #58 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:04pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

And still, on a thread intended to discuss the fact that it has passed into law that animals don;t feel pain or feel emotions, the trolls only want to talk about animals being killed.

It's not even a little bit how my mind works.

You are a troubling bunch.

Do soybeans feel pain?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20507 Gordon Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #59 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:06pm Sorry for the OT post but I'm going to a place on Saturday that does a $250 Wagyu steak. Should I order that or the lobster or both?
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