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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136054 Gender:	Re: Sudanese Crime Stats Reply #30 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:53am Victoria's total crime rate last year fell by about 6 per cent, the biggest drop in 12 years.
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Reply #31 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:00am

So let me get this straight.....just because a country has crime it's then okay for refugees to come here and run amuck too even though their crimes are impacting inocent people alot more than the current crime is.
A stolen car vs a home invasion by 15 armed men. You've got to be joking?
I think we need to ship the wankers that think like this off with the refugees.

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Reply #32 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:10am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 8:39pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

I saw the story on ABC TV.

They tried their best to paint the stats as insignificant.

Leigh did a good job asserting the gang terminology. The Victorian Police guy was pissweak not wanting to call them gangs because it strokes their egos. Fail.

Are they gangs because the media gives them names or are they organised crime organisations that have structure???

Until the root cause of poverty, unemployment and disenfranchisement from society due to social stigma is addressed we will continue to alienate the youth who see no future!!!

Sad

If they didn't have a high rate of crime when young and then older, perhaps they'd get more opportunity. Did anyone ever tell them that for every one of them, there are likely 20 others who are in the same boat, but who don't do crime? Shocked

Back to the good old days of the chain gang.... re-education working in the hot sun never hurt nobody..

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Reply #33 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:11am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 10:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:

Phil has lost the plot just ignore him...

Gordon I think they said it was 0.1%... no matter how you do the maths its appalling over-representation.

Yup typo. I wish they included in the stats the above 18s and 2nd gen, we'd have like 25% of agrivated burglaries done by Sudanese.

How about providing the stats for all Australia instead of just Victoria you racist dickhead???

Huh

Victoria's got the biggest problem with them...... that's why.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83596 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Sudanese Crime Stats Reply #34 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:11am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:53am: Victoria's total crime rate last year fell by about 6 per cent, the biggest drop in 12 years. Irrelevant....
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Sudanese Crime Stats Reply #35 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:11am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:53am: Victoria's total crime rate last year fell by about 6 per cent, the biggest drop in 12 years. yet Sudanese Crime rates have been going up and they are over-represented. is that your point?
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Reply #36 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:38am:

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

Source: Victorian Crime Statistics Agency

We're talking per capita of ethnic/social group, greg - as you well know. The classical over-representation argument....

And that's all I have to say to you about that.

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Reply #37 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:19am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 10:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:

Phil has lost the plot just ignore him...

Gordon I think they said it was 0.1%... no matter how you do the maths its appalling over-representation.

Yup typo. I wish they included in the stats the above 18s and 2nd gen, we'd have like 25% of agrivated burglaries done by Sudanese.

How about providing the stats for all Australia instead of just Victoria you racist dickhead???

Huh

hello TROLL... ignorant flaming again tsk, tsk, tsk.'
I answered the question with the stats provided in the report. That is what was asked for. Grin

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Reply #38 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:20am

On a brighter note - I'm waiting for the headline:-

"Home Owner Blasts Fifteen Home Invaders With Shotgun!"

......................... in breaking news on KRUD - your News Network ... a Malbun home owner is being counselled after defending her home with a fully licenced shotgun, after a gang of fifteen armed thugs attempted to break down the door and frighten her dog.............. 87 year old grandmother of ten Wyatta Earp, a former Olympic class skeet shooter ..... first ordered them to leave the home alone, and when the group continued and then entered the front door, she opened fire at close range, killing all fifteen..... a police spokesman says it is unlikely charges will be laid, but the victim needs counselling and support...... a spokeperson for the Sudanese community says they were just innocent little boys on a lark and the Sudanese community is outraged and in mourning ..... Mullah Abdel-Mallaka says that such things do not happen in Sudan, a peaceful and feminist nation .......a report is being prepared for the coroner once the bodies are fully examined... the local community says it will chip in for the week-long cleanup bill ................... meanwhile in other news, applications for shotgun licences have risen in the Greater Malbun Area........<<<<

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Reply #39 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:38am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:38am:

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

Source: Victorian Crime Statistics Agency

We're talking per capita of ethnic/social group, greg - as you well know. The classical over-representation argument....

And that's all I have to say to you about that.

Which is completely irrelevant.

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

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Reply #40 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:39am

Setanta wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:

Phil has lost the plot just ignore him...

Gordon I think they said it was 0.1%... no matter how you do the maths its appalling over-representation.

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The 2011 census recorded 19,369 people born in Sudan. Of these, the largest number were living in the state of Victoria, (6,085), followed by New South Wales (5,629), Western Australia (2,722) and then Queensland (2,582).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Australians
https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/02_2014/sudan.pdf

Those stats are 7 yrs old Set.

There are more plus Somalis now.

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Reply #41 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:43am

Oh and Set...
Gordon wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Lets drill down on one stat.

8.6% agrivated burglaries (home invasions) are being perpetrated by OS born Sudanese between the ages of 10 to 18 years, and probably mostly males.

So of the 1% of Sudanese in Victoria,

what % of those would be male and between 10 and 18 years of age?

So that makes the over representation even worse!

That was the question.

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Reply #42 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:38am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:38am:

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

Source: Victorian Crime Statistics Agency

We're talking per capita of ethnic/social group, greg - as you well know. The classical over-representation argument....

And that's all I have to say to you about that.

Which is completely irrelevant.

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

There are more Aussies & Kiwis ...... so what?

Spread that over the total numbers for a percentage of the demographic.

That's what has been done with the Sudanese & their rates for their total population is way higher.

Apologist.

btw Kiwi crims are being sent home.

The same should happen to these Sudanese crims.

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Reply #43 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 9:31am

Gnads wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:38am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 7:38am:

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

Source: Victorian Crime Statistics Agency

We're talking per capita of ethnic/social group, greg - as you well know. The classical over-representation argument....

And that's all I have to say to you about that.

Which is completely irrelevant.

Alleged offenders in Victoria by country of birth, 2016-2017:

1. Australian
2. New Zealand

There are more Aussies & Kiwis ...... so what?

Spread that over the total numbers for a percentage of the demographic.

That's what has been done with the Sudanese & their rates for their total population is way higher.

Apologist.

btw Kiwi crims are being sent home.

The same should happen to these Sudanese crims.

Irrelevant.

Most crime is committed by Australians and Kiwis.

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Reply #44 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 9:35am

Gnads wrote on Jan 18^th, 2018 at 8:46am:

btw Kiwi crims are being sent home.

The same should happen to these Sudanese crims.

All foreign criminals automatically have their visas cancelled under section 501 of the Migration Act if they are sentenced to a jail term of a year or more, and also if they are a member of a bikie gang and suspected of criminal activity.

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