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Jan 19th, 2018 at 7:07am
 
It’s time for a penalty rates review: Launceston Chamber of Commerce chief

The Examiner    
January 16 2018


Launceston Chamber of Commmerce executive officer Neil Grose has called for a review of the “appropriateness” of penalty rates. 

Mr Grose said it was time for an “apolitical” review of July’s penalty rate cuts for retail, hospitality and pharmacy workers, while also questioning the need for any penalty rates.   Shocked

“There needs to be that discussion about what are the relevance of penalty rates,” he said.

“If there were to be a review of penalty rates, you would look at how the reduction of penalty rates has manifested in the economy.

“Has it meant more people being employed, would it mean longer [business opening] hours?”

The federal government, on recommendation from The Fair Work Commission, voted to cut Sunday and holiday penalty rates for the aforementioned sectors in July.   Sad

The change resulted in a 25-to-50 per cent cut in penalty rates for retail workers, a 50 per cent cut for pharmacy workers and a 25 per cent cut for full-time and part-time hospitality workers.

Saturday penalty rates remained the same under the new laws, but are still lower than Sunday rates.


    United Voice acting state secretary Jessica Sanders

The Fair Work Commission delivered their recommendation to reduce the gap between Saturday and Sunday penalty rates.

United Voice acting state secretary Jessica Sanders agreed that a review of the policy was needed, however instead called for the old rates to be re-instated.   

“Hospitality workers are earning less than they were last year for the same work,” she said.

“Workers who spent Christmas away from family and friends earned $40 dollars less for the same work as last year.   

“Going out and targeting low-wage workers is wrong – it's something that [the workers] don't need and don't deserve.”   Sad

Economist Saul Eslake said it was too early to see any noticeable effects from the change in the economy.
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Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 8:07am
 
Oh no the gloom and doom BlackDay is trying to sensationalize the GetUp! anti Australian propaganda about the penalty rates.

Not ANOTHER meaningless thread about Penalty Rates surely.


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Reply #2 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 8:09am
 
And the union puppet Bull S. was up to his neck in this sort of thing with MacDonalds etc.



How a union ripped off the workers
Duncan Hart SEPTEMBER 17 2016

The unprecedented wage theft at Australia's largest employers, including Coles, Woolworths, Hungry Jack's, KFC and McDonald's, and the "trade union" that helped to facilitate them, should be nothing less than a national scandal.

Every roster examined at these large employers shows a majority of workers being less paid less than they are entitled to under the federal workplace award.

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Taken for a ride. Photo: Robert Rough

The scale of this wage theft means roughly 250,000 workers (at least!) are receiving less than the supposed legal minimum – the award "safety net" upon which enterprise agreements are supposed to rest. In monetary terms we are talking hundreds of millions of dollars every year finding its way into the pockets of corporate giants, rather than low-wage workers.

Yet the problem is not new, and not confined to the latest round of enterprise agreements negotiated by the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association (SDA), the retail and fast food union. We're talking about 20-plus years, and billions of dollars lost to workers, thanks to the collaboration of the SDA and employers, since enterprise bargaining replaced centralised wage fixing in the early '90s.

The SDA, and the employers, went into negotiations for enterprise agreements with eyes wide open about their purpose – they wanted to undermine penalty rates for weekends and night work in exchange for a higher base rate of pay.

The stark reality of the situation for retail and fast food workers is that our award entitlements today have not increased since the achievement of equal pay in 1974, 42 years ago. And the SDA's strategy of undermining award conditions for increases to the base rate of pay have left the majority of us earning less than our legal entitlements even as those entitlements have stagnated.

The last 20 and more years have been years of betrayal for retail workers in this country.

Unless other unions do what they can to push back, the festering sore of the SDA and its shameful deals for retail and fast food workers will continue to blight the entire union movement. For many young workers, the SDA is the first experience any of them have of unionism. Please do not let it be their last.

Duncan Hart is a member of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association. He recently won an appeal against the approval of the Coles Enterprise Agreement in the Fair Work Commission on the basis that the agreement left many workers, including himself, earning less than they would under the general retail award.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/how-a-union-ripped-off-the-workers-20160915-grgr5m...


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Reply #3 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 8:10am
 
The union controlled Labor Party - rotten to the core. All for themselves and to Hell with the workers.

The corrupt unions are now irrelevant with only 10% membership and would be bankrupt if they could not misuse SUPER money.




Union corruption rips off workers
JOHN RAINFORD November 26, 2013

Michael Williamson is facing a prison sentence for defrauding the Health Services Union of $5.9 million of its members' funds.

The formation of the Labor Party — created as part of a global movement to form mass workers’ parties in the 1890’s — differed markedly from the formation of social democratic parties in mainland Europe.

The tendency in these countries was for the formation of workers’ political parties to precede the formation of a mass union movement which the parties then encouraged.

In Australia, as in New Zealand and Britain, it was the other way around — the union movement organised the Labor Party.


It was expected that unions would be able to influence party policy, particularly when in government, to a greater degree than was possible in European social democratic parties.

These great expectations have always ended in even greater disappointment.

Since Bob Hawke’s transition from Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) president to prime minister, there has been a culture of leadership ambition in the union movement that is part of a deliberately chosen career path to parliament.

Even more disturbing is the emergence of a career path continuum that now extends, post-politics, to lobbyist and company director.

Four years ago a survey of lobbyists in Australia showed that of the 23 key lobbyists in the five mainland states, 17 had Labor connections.

Former ACTU president Martin Ferguson, who went on to become resources minister, retired from parliament at the last election. He is now group executive for Seven Group’s Caterpillar operations, the world’s leading manufacturer of construction and mining equipment.


It is in this context that we can understand the mess that continues to unfold in the Health Services Union (HSU), whose membership includes some of the lowest-paid workers in the public and private hospital system.

At the HSU national conference in 2010, General Secretary Michael Williamson reported, among other offices he held, he was president of the Labor Party, an executive member of the ACTU, vice-president of both Unions NSW and the ALP NSW branch and a director of private radiology company Imaging Partners Online and inhouse union IT company United Edge.

What he did not tell them was that at IPO — an appointment facilitated by former NSW Labor minister Craig Knowles — he was being paid by a company that sold millions of dollars of radiology services to hospitals and promoted the privatisation of services his members provided.

At the time, Williams was receiving a salary of $513,294 from the union and $236,260 from the various board seats he held, which totalled a yearly income of $749,554. He is now facing the prospect of a prison sentence for his role in defrauding the HSU of $5.9 million of its members’ funds.

The Tony Abbott government announced on November 16 that new restrictions on unions entering workplaces and limits on their ability to bargain for wages and conditions will be introduced by early next year. Other restrictive laws will follow.

This prompted ACTU secretary Dave Oliver to complain of “the government doing the bidding of big business at the expense of Australian workers.” As opposed to Williamson and the previous Labor government’s Fair Work Act that replicated provisions already found to have breached International Labour Organization conventions?

While there are some notable and honourable exceptions, the union movement’s leadership seems possessed of a peculiar view that all can only be for the best when Labor is in government.

But workers know that is not the case. Like the workers at Cochlear who have spent the last five years trying to get a decent enterprise agreement.

Union affiliation to Labor should be a matter for union members to decide. Blanket affiliation of individual unionists who have no say in the matter is an arrogant disdain of members’ rights.


This could not be said of the Electrical Trade Union in Victoria. In 2010 they organised a membership ballot on ALP affiliation and 86% voted against it. This expression of rank-and-file democracy is what union careerists and opportunists are afraid of, no matter what damage they cause to unionism.

And the damage is considerable. Some 87% of workers in the private sector are not members of a union.


While there are 1.8 million union members in the workforce there are also 1.5 million who have previously been members but have declined to renew their memberships.

At the same time, the number of union officials has risen almost in proportion to the decline in membership.


The procession of ALP politicians appearing before the NSW Independent Comission Against Corruption continues to remind us of the corruption that comes courtesy of a factional system rotten to the core.

https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/union-corruption-rips-workers
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Reply #4 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 8:11am
 
The SDA is just following the play book, Bill Shorten brokered similar "deals" when he was the head of the union and look what that turned out to be for the employee's.

Hopefully every parent with a child working at McDonalds encourages their kids to ring their union and resign their membership, immediately, at least the kids will be saving some money. 

And if the union's put the bounce on the kids like they normally do, take them on as well.

The days of union's being about standing up for their member's are nought but a distant memory in history, they are purely about garnering political power for their master's, the union movement and the ALP are like symbiotic viruses, they both need each other to survive.  The ALP need the huge war chest the union's provide by their own member's funds and the union's desperately need an ALP government so they can continue to spruik their stock in trade.

When you think about it, what the SDA has done is basically ALP ideology, "the end justifies the means".




Unhappy deals as union short-changes its McDonald’s junior workers in deals
SHARRI MARKSON, NATIONAL POLITICAL EDITOR, The Daily Telegraph September 13, 2017 6:42am

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It’s not all golden arches for young Maccas employees, with the Shoppies union striking a pay deal in which young workers earn $5 an hour less than their peers.

Unions pay deal under Bill Shorten leaves workers worse off

Fast-food, hospitality and retail workers ripped off on Sundays


THE Shoppies union has struck obscene pay deals with fast food giant McDonald’s in which young workers earn $5 an hour less than their peers on the award rate.

Federal Government analysis of how McDonald’s pays its young workers has revealed 16, 17 and 18-year-olds on the enterprise agreement negotiated by the Shop Distributive and Allied ­Employees union are paid $5 an hour less on weekends than peers on the award rate — equivalent to $36 less a week or $1728 a year.

Worse, the union then deducts between $7.90 and $19.60 a fortnight in membership fees from the young workers’ salary, depending on the number of hours worked.

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Young McDonald’s workers are missing out under the new deal.   This is the sort of deal the Hamburglar would pull ...

Internal data from the SDA reveals 13 per cent of its membership are under 18 years old.

This means the union would collect somewhere between $5.7 million and up to $14 million a year from teenage members, depending on the hours they were working each week.

Maccas workers have told The Daily Telegraph of the “pressure” they feel to sign up to the union agreement, with a union representative present on their induction day.

READ MORE
Shorten’s ‘dodgy’ union wage deal exposed
457 Visas- Labor’s fry-in-fry-out staff VISAS


“When all the new kids start, you have orientation days, and the SDA people come in and say how it is good for you to join the union, and everyone is in high school and quite young and you feel a pressure to join it,” said a worker at Stanmore McDonald’s.

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Young Maccas workers are claiming they’re being pressured into joining the union.

“They said there would be benefits, but I haven’t used any of the benefits. It is just discounts like going to zoo.”

VIDEO: McDonald' s McAloo Tikki


McDonald’s Australia’s national enterprise agreement with the SDA has a clause that makes sure the union will be there on the very day that a young worker starts at the chain.

“The employer will invite the SDA to attend the induction of new employees,” it states.

Employment Minister Michaelia Cash said the SDA’s hypocrisy was breathtaking. “These SDA deals demonstrate the obscene hypocrisy of the union movement when they pretend to be concerned about weekend penalty rates,” she said. “This also raises serious questions about workers under 18 being pressured into joining unions.”

McDonald’s corporate relations said its enterprise agreement, approved by the Fair Work Commission and voted on by employees, “delivers a substantially higher rate of pay across the week over penalty rates that only apply to limited times.” But the weekday rates are not much higher. Workers aged 16 earn $10.54 hourly on weekdays, compared to the award equivalent of $9.72 while 18-year-olds get $14.76, compared to hourly award rate of $13.61.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/unhappy-deals-as-union-shortchanges-i...
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Reply #5 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 12:29pm
 
People that work weekends and public holidays should get paid the penalty rates.  They should not have been cut in the first place.   Sad
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Reply #6 - Jan 20th, 2018 at 5:02am
 
Hang ten exploiters and anti-penalty rates politicians and supporters a day until the rest get the message....  Cool
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2018 at 7:56am
 
Economist Saul Eslake said it was too early to see any noticeable effects from the change in the economy.



It is always going to be too early, there is no economic benefit and there will never be one.
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Reply #8 - Jan 20th, 2018 at 8:15am
 
Well said Dnarever, also one must remember this is only the start.  People must be prepared for the next wave of penalty rate cuts.   Sad
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Reply #9 - Jan 20th, 2018 at 8:55am
 
whiteknight wrote on Jan 20th, 2018 at 8:15am:
Well said Dnarever, also one must remember this is only the start.  People must be prepared for the next wave of penalty rate cuts.   Sad


That's right.

So stop tipping, people    Angry
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Reply #10 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:02am
 
If you want wage growth and penalty rates you never ever ever ever ever vote libtards
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Reply #11 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:05am
 
The cuts failed - time to back down..... now it becomes 'management by ego' since the 'conservatives' will never be able to back down on a bad and stupid policy move without losing face....

But stoopid is as stoopid does, as they allus say down in Green Bow....
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Reply #12 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 5:32pm
 
Those against penalty rates have never had to rely on overtime to survive.

I guess they got given everything by their parents connections.
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Reply #13 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 5:38pm
 
Gosh! To listen to the Lefties you would think they ACTUALLY WORKED!!!!!
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Reply #14 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
Penalty rates reversal will be a vote winner overall with the swinging voters.
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