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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20434 Gordon Gender:	Employment numbers set historic mark Jan 19^th, 2018 at 9:38am It's a job-a-rama!!!! Employment has risen every month in a calendar year for the first time in four decades - and possibly the first time in history http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/jobs-boom-australias-employment-numbe...
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #1 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 9:44am Well when you have a financially brilliant man like Mal steering Australia to an export led booming prosperity for all what else can you expect ? The booming Australian economy is what will win the election for Mal.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #2 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:06am With zero to negative wage growth
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20434 Gordon Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #3 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:08am Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:06am: With zero to negative wage growth Are you happy that more people now have a job? A simple yes or no answer will do.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #4 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:10am Gordon wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:08am: Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:06am: With zero to negative wage growth Are you happy that more people now have a job? A simple yes or no answer will do. That's what happens with zero to negative wage growth
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Reply #5 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:17am

Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:10am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:06am:

With zero to negative wage growth Cheesy

Are you happy that more people now have a job?
A simple yes or no answer will do.

That's what happens with zero to negative wage growth

Ah so you're not happy that more people have a job.
At least we know.

And wage levels, can you read a chart? Looks like a long term trend that started with Kevin.

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Reply #6 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:28am

PM’s assurances on wage growth worth nothing when employers refuse to act on low wages despite high profits
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ACTU President Ged Kearney Low wage growth change the rules

With wages growth at the lowest point for decades and profits growing fast employers still refuse to pass on desperately needed wage rises. Corporate greed and power are keeping Australians worrying close to not coping with rising costs. Sad

Quotes attributable to President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions, Ged Kearney:

“Malcolm Turnbull’s assurances that wages will rise are nonsense if they fall on deaf ears. Today’s response from employer groups shows just that.

“We need more than empty promises, we need to change the rules.

“Workers’ pay is a record low growth rates because under today’s rules big business has too much power, making it impossible for workers to bargain for pay rises.

“Even though wage growth is at record lows and corporate profits are up, big business is telling workers they will continue to miss out on pay rises.

“Big businesses’ profits are increasing rapidly with the assistance of the Turnbull Government who allow companies to pay no tax despite massive profits. And still our PM is determined to usher through further tax cuts for corporations. Sad

“A third of big businesses in Australia aren’t paying any tax, and workers’ wage growth remains at record low.

“Today the ACCI has suggested that the minimum wage should remain so low that working people must live in poverty.

“ACCI needs to accept that the rules are broken, working people need a pay rise, and their wages must increase.

“The federal government’s industrial relations system makes it illegal for workers to demand industry or sector-wide agreements and even restricts what workers are allowed to ask for.

“Employers won't bargain or give fair pay increases unless working people have enough power to make them bargain or there is an independent umpire who is empowered to assist.

“Working people should be able to bargain where the power is, across an industry or supply chain.’

“We need to change the rules so that workers have enough power to make sure wages are fair and jobs are secure.”

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Reply #7 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:35am

Gordon wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 10:06am:

With zero to negative wage growth Cheesy

Are you happy that more people now have a job?
A simple yes or no answer will do.

Jobs growth doesn't count if those jobs are just going to migrants flooding into the country on foreign work visas. We have a particular problem with illegal immigrants that is not being fixed by this do-nothing government.

Unemployment hasn't declined (it increased in December) and nothing is being done to reduce it. Long-term unemployment is a particular problem because the job services providers are useless idiots, employers aren't recruiting the long-term unemployed, the wider community are too fond of persecuting the unemployed, and everyone in Parliament thinks they know best about how to fix the problem without bothering to consult the unemployed themselves.

The only acceptable level of involuntary long-term unemployment is zero. Unemployment is currently at nearly 6% (official), about 10% (actual). Involuntary long-term unemployment makes up a bit more than half of those numbers. Nobody with a functioning brain can be happy with the jobs figures if long-term unemployment is not coming down, and strongly.

25 years of economic growth? Really? For whom?

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #8 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 12:33pm Number of times unemployment rate below 5.5% Oct 2013 - Jan 2018 Coalition 2 Dec 2007 - Sept 2013 Labor 52 even with a GFC
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Reply #9 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 1:37pm

juliar wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 9:44am:

Well when you have a financially brilliant man like Mal steering Australia to an export led booming prosperity for all what else can you expect ?

The booming Australian economy is what will win the election for Mal.

Surely that means though that Mal is better than Howard and Fraser.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #10 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 2:24pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 1:37pm:

juliar wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 9:44am:

Well when you have a financially brilliant man like Mal steering Australia to an export led booming prosperity for all what else can you expect ?

The booming Australian economy is what will win the election for Mal.

Surely that means though that Mal is better than Howard and Fraser.

Mal. Bad. In the Latin.

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Reply #11 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 5:33pm

Gee the Lefties have gone into a denial spiral dive as they see their hero the union puppet Bull S. sinking deeper into the quagmire of Labor's vast cesspool of corruption.

But don't forget that Lefties are not interested in jobs because they have their permanent positions in Centrelink.

In fact job vacancies make Lefties feel distinctly uncomfortable.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #12 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 5:45pm Its time wrote on Jan 19^th, 2018 at 12:33pm: Number of times unemployment rate below 5.5% Oct 2013 - Jan 2018 Coalition 2 Dec 2007 - Sept 2013 Labor 52 even with a GFC
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #13 - Jan 19^th, 2018 at 5:52pm LW is trotting out the rot to try to get a giggle out of the responses. His usual tactic. LW are you going to go into mourning on Australia Day = Invasion Day ? Have you applied for a job at Uber yet ?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82689 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Employment numbers set historic mark Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2018 at 4:16am Just about keeping up with the unemployment numbers....... if this keeps up we'll only have around 3/4 of a million without a job and available for vilification as dole bludgers... and we all know that without an under-class no Volk can survive..... I'm waiting for the crash after Christmas....
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