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Re: The Islamic Way
Reply #195 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:17pm

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

Most Muslims are not terrorists Brian. They just excuse terrorism, like Gandalf with his mindless collective of treacherous Jews meme.

Good point, FD, I remember now. G introduced the word meme.

You introduced the mindless collective of treacherous Jews with no individuality whatsoever, etc, etc, so unfair.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47773 Gender:	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #196 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 10:22pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:16pm: freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 7:39pm: Most Muslims are not terrorists Brian. Thank you, Freediver. Now, how about Christian Terrorists? Do they exist or not? I note you failed to answer that question. I wonder why? Choice is yours... No, they don't exist.
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Reply #197 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 10:41pm

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

Most Muslims are not terrorists Brian.

Thank you, Freediver. Now, how about Christian Terrorists? Do they exist or not? I note you failed to answer that question. I wonder why? Choice is yours... Roll Eyes

No, they don't exist.

Tell it to the perpetrators, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Oh, and not all Christians are white, either...

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47773 Gender:	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #198 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 11:06pm Nah, not Christians. Tsk, tsk, Bwian.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #199 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:33am Not all facists are Christian either eh bwian...
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #200 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:37am oh and bwian.... How many people in those photos cry GOD IS GREAT whilst killing people etc, etc, etc.... oh right that's the ISLAMIC WAY.
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Reply #201 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 11:31am

I’d like to remind some people that the peaceful majority don’t matter. What matters is the organised and militant minority. The biggest threat to global peaceful and security at the moment is Islamism (yes I’m changing terms here). There is a rising and significant minority of Muslims who support the Islamist project and this is an issue. Islamists are found among conservative Muslims primarily.

Of course, Muslims have the right to be islamists just as white people have the right to be national socialists. They are not the enemy but they’re not the solution either.

The other point is that yes there are terrorist who are inspired by Christianity but there needs to be a distinction: they are not a threat to world peace and security at the moment.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96482	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #202 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 11:51am Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:33am: Not all facists are Christian either eh bwian... Gott mit uns, nein?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #203 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?
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Reply #204 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 2:00pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 11:31am:

I’d like to remind some people that the peaceful majority don’t matter. What matters is the organised and militant minority. The biggest threat to global peaceful and security at the moment is Islamism (yes I’m changing terms here). There is a rising and significant minority of Muslims who support the Islamist project and this is an issue. Islamists are found among conservative Muslims primarily.

Of course, Muslims have the right to be islamists just as white people have the right to be national socialists. They are not the enemy but they’re not the solution either.

The other point is that yes there are terrorist who are inspired by Christianity but there needs to be a distinction: they are not a threat to world peace and security at the moment.

augcaesarustus,

Can you give us some examples of how Christianity [specifically] has inspired terrorists ?

There are many contrary indications contained in Christian scripture....

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Psalms 34:14
Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Proverbs 22:24
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

Proverbs 28:7
Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Romans 12:18
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Hebrews 12:14
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord

1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
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16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42348	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #205 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:12pm Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 11:06pm: Nah, not Christians. According to whom, Soren? You? Tsk, tsk, they believe they are Christians defending the Christian faith. Whom am I to dispute it?
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Reply #206 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Islamic Way Reply #207 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:20pm Bwian is just one of those USEFUL IDIOTS everyone talks about... he's a DR of Divinity with no MORAL COMPASS, he's happy to lie and be a hypocrite even when he know's he's wrong.
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Reply #208 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

The OT is the Hebrew Bible bwian it covers the religious history of the Jews.

Christ wasn't even born then, you find his teachings in the NEW Testament bwian... that's why its called the NEW Testament bwian. Roll Eyes

Some DroD you turn out to be. Grin

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Reply #209 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

Have another try Brian. Do you think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

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