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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #15 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 10:38am:

lets start with my signature FD.

Now off you go, scurry off

Yes, good idea, let's start with your signature.

Are Muslims supportive of liberal democratic, British-derived political and social institutions in Australia?

Are they supportive of individual freedoms, democratic law-making or are they supportive of sharia?

Displaying signs of sharia-compliant lives - beards in a certain way, women covered in a certain way - those Muslims are DEMONSTRATING their preference for sharia over liberal democracy.

There is no reconciliation, only enmity, between individual freedoms and sharia.

So displaying the signs of sharia is displaying opposition to liberal democracy, individual freedom and worth, freedom from Mohammed imposed dogma. There is absolutely nothing about sharia that is a private spiritual consideration to be respected by principles of freedom of religion. Sharia undermines and stands in opposition to every tenet of individual freedom of any kind.

So your signature captures the truth of Islamic ideology and its concerted efforts to undermine and overthrow enlightenment, Christian, liberal, atheist, agnostic - in a word - FREE societies. Islam is the self-identified enemy of freedom, its very meaning, Submission, is the antithesis of freedom.

If you have evidence that all Australian Muslims are not supportive of liberal-democratic values, please post it, Soren.

Oh, you don't? How unsurprising, hey? Islamophobic bigot. Roll Eyes

You can't support sharia AND liberal democracy simultaneously, Bwian.

Muslim group wants sharia law in Australia
Most Muslims want sharia law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IisZH4nDMFE

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Sinful path? Reply #16 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:54pm Abu was happy to support liberal democracy. Brian would have loved him. He just had a "slightly different take" on what democracy means - only Muslims can vote, only Muslims can run for office, and shariah law is the only platform they can run on.
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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #17 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 7:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 10:38am:

lets start with my signature FD.

Now off you go, scurry off

Yes, good idea, let's start with your signature.

Are Muslims supportive of liberal democratic, British-derived political and social institutions in Australia?

Are they supportive of individual freedoms, democratic law-making or are they supportive of sharia?

Displaying signs of sharia-compliant lives - beards in a certain way, women covered in a certain way - those Muslims are DEMONSTRATING their preference for sharia over liberal democracy.

There is no reconciliation, only enmity, between individual freedoms and sharia.

So displaying the signs of sharia is displaying opposition to liberal democracy, individual freedom and worth, freedom from Mohammed imposed dogma. There is absolutely nothing about sharia that is a private spiritual consideration to be respected by principles of freedom of religion. Sharia undermines and stands in opposition to every tenet of individual freedom of any kind.

So your signature captures the truth of Islamic ideology and its concerted efforts to undermine and overthrow enlightenment, Christian, liberal, atheist, agnostic - in a word - FREE societies. Islam is the self-identified enemy of freedom, its very meaning, Submission, is the antithesis of freedom.

If you have evidence that all Australian Muslims are not supportive of liberal-democratic values, please post it, Soren.

Oh, you don't? How unsurprising, hey? Islamophobic bigot. Roll Eyes

I have absolutely NO EVIDENCE that ALL Muslims support liberal democratic values, shithead.

Lame attempt at a switcheroo by you, lying, dishonest mong.

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #18 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 7:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 10:38am:

lets start with my signature FD.

Now off you go, scurry off

Yes, good idea, let's start with your signature.

Are Muslims supportive of liberal democratic, British-derived political and social institutions in Australia?

Are they supportive of individual freedoms, democratic law-making or are they supportive of sharia?

Displaying signs of sharia-compliant lives - beards in a certain way, women covered in a certain way - those Muslims are DEMONSTRATING their preference for sharia over liberal democracy.

There is no reconciliation, only enmity, between individual freedoms and sharia.

So displaying the signs of sharia is displaying opposition to liberal democracy, individual freedom and worth, freedom from Mohammed imposed dogma. There is absolutely nothing about sharia that is a private spiritual consideration to be respected by principles of freedom of religion. Sharia undermines and stands in opposition to every tenet of individual freedom of any kind.

So your signature captures the truth of Islamic ideology and its concerted efforts to undermine and overthrow enlightenment, Christian, liberal, atheist, agnostic - in a word - FREE societies. Islam is the self-identified enemy of freedom, its very meaning, Submission, is the antithesis of freedom.

[size=14]If you have evidence that all Australian Muslims are not supportive of liberal-democratic values, please post it, Soren.

Easy.

And there is able evidence, that 'Aussie' moslems    "are not supportive of liberal-democratic values"
.

Brian,

Is every moslem in Australia, a moslem ?

A PROPOSITION OF LOGIC;

Q.
What is a moslem Brian ?

By definition,    a moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

Correct ? ....or are you going to contest the truth of that logic ???

And, every follower of ISLAM, is a supporter of what ISLAM and ISLAMIC law, endorses, promotes, encourages,
and is a supporter of prohibiting, what ISLAM and ISLAMIC law prohibits.

And Brian, ISLAMIC law itself, states that       a moslem    can't be,       a moslem    if he is tolerant of "those who resist Allah and His Messenger", or if he has friends who are not moslems.

Brian, if those are indeed       the allegiance affirmations       that 'Aussie' moslems make,
then 'Aussie' moslems    "are not supportive of liberal-democratic values"
.

True ?

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #19 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 7:40pm

freediver wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Abu was happy to support liberal democracy.

Brian would have loved him.

He just had a "slightly different take" on what democracy means -

only Muslims can vote, only Muslims can run for office, and shariah law is the only platform they can run on.

Just like in muslim countries FD. Wink

AN OLDIE BUT A GOODIE.....

sheikyermami.com, satirising the shameless deceit of the moslem.....

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IMAGE....

'.....Just like in muslim countries.'

image source....
http://sheikyermami.com/

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #20 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 9:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Abu was happy to support liberal democracy. Brian would have loved him. He just had a "slightly different take" on what democracy means - only Muslims can vote, only Muslims can run for office, and shariah law is the only platform they can run on.

Put this one in the Wiki, FD. You can use it as proof of Abu's sinister world view and what Muslims themselves think.

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Reply #21 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 2:57pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 10:38am:

lets start with my signature FD.

Now off you go, scurry off

Yes, good idea, let's start with your signature.

Are Muslims supportive of liberal democratic, British-derived political and social institutions in Australia?

Are they supportive of individual freedoms, democratic law-making or are they supportive of sharia?

Displaying signs of sharia-compliant lives - beards in a certain way, women covered in a certain way - those Muslims are DEMONSTRATING their preference for sharia over liberal democracy.

There is no reconciliation, only enmity, between individual freedoms and sharia.

So displaying the signs of sharia is displaying opposition to liberal democracy, individual freedom and worth, freedom from Mohammed imposed dogma. There is absolutely nothing about sharia that is a private spiritual consideration to be respected by principles of freedom of religion. Sharia undermines and stands in opposition to every tenet of individual freedom of any kind.

So your signature captures the truth of Islamic ideology and its concerted efforts to undermine and overthrow enlightenment, Christian, liberal, atheist, agnostic - in a word - FREE societies. Islam is the self-identified enemy of freedom, its very meaning, Submission, is the antithesis of freedom.

If you have evidence that all Australian Muslims are not supportive of liberal-democratic values, please post it, Soren.

Oh, you don't? How unsurprising, hey? Islamophobic bigot. Roll Eyes

You can't support sharia AND liberal democracy simultaneously, Bwian.

According to whom, FD? You? Sorry, you claim to support Freedom of Speech, unless it is a Muslim speaking. You claim to support Freedom of Association and Assembly, unless it is Muslims doing that. You claim to support Freedom of Religion, except for Muslims. FD, many people here claim to support many things and in the next post will post the opposite of what they claim to believe in. Tsk, tsk. Sort out your own beliefs before carping on about others, is what I'd recommend. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Sinful path? Reply #22 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:19pm Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Islam?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96482	Re: Sinful path? Reply #23 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:55am freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:19pm: Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Islam? FD, do you have the right or ability to criticize decent white people everywhere? If you answer that, I'll drop a stool on Islam just for you. Miam miam.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Sinful path? Reply #24 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 7:35am yes
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Reply #25 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 1:22pm

FD, I did say ability too, you know.

Still, that yes was hard for you, I know. I applaud your effort to write those three letters - sans capitals and punctuation as that would require an extra keystroke that apologists like me simply do not deserve.

So that's one stool on Islam. If you answer this, I'll give you another:

Do you uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the Muselman?

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #26 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 1:29pm

Raven wrote on Jan 29^th, 2018 at 2:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2018 at 11:36am:

What do ya reckon, killed by religious lunatics before the end of February?

Be stunned if he is alive by the start of February.

I think we should offer him asylum and install him as mayor of Sydney's Muslim capital, Auburn.

You'll notice one of his detractors referred to the Sacred Scripts of Islam to make the pronouncement ...

"If you wrongly choose a leader you have committed sin," he tells the congregation.

"God has said that Muslims should not elect an infidel to be leader."

Food for thought.

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Reply #27 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:11pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 7:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 6:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 10:38am:

lets start with my signature FD.

Now off you go, scurry off

Yes, good idea, let's start with your signature.

Are Muslims supportive of liberal democratic, British-derived political and social institutions in Australia?

Are they supportive of individual freedoms, democratic law-making or are they supportive of sharia?

Displaying signs of sharia-compliant lives - beards in a certain way, women covered in a certain way - those Muslims are DEMONSTRATING their preference for sharia over liberal democracy.

There is no reconciliation, only enmity, between individual freedoms and sharia.

So displaying the signs of sharia is displaying opposition to liberal democracy, individual freedom and worth, freedom from Mohammed imposed dogma. There is absolutely nothing about sharia that is a private spiritual consideration to be respected by principles of freedom of religion. Sharia undermines and stands in opposition to every tenet of individual freedom of any kind.

So your signature captures the truth of Islamic ideology and its concerted efforts to undermine and overthrow enlightenment, Christian, liberal, atheist, agnostic - in a word - FREE societies. Islam is the self-identified enemy of freedom, its very meaning, Submission, is the antithesis of freedom.

If you have evidence that all Australian Muslims are not supportive of liberal-democratic values, please post it, Soren.

Oh, you don't? How unsurprising, hey? Islamophobic bigot. Roll Eyes

I have absolutely NO EVIDENCE that ALL Muslims support liberal democratic values, shithead.

Lame attempt at a switcheroo by you, lying, dishonest mong.

Whomever claimed all Muslims support Liberal Democratic values. We know all (nominal) Christians don't, either. Look at yourself. Look at Freediver. Look at Herbie. Look at Moses, Yadda, etc. So, tell us, Soren, why should all Muslims be treated any differently under Australian law to how all Christians are treated? Mmmm? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47772 Gender:	Re: Sinful path? Reply #28 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:11pm: So, tell us, Soren, why should all Muslims be treated any differently under Australian law to how all Christians are treated? Mmmm? Tsk, tsk. Hanson's exact point - NO special consideration or allowances for Muslims.
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Reply #29 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:55pm

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:11pm:

So, tell us, Soren, why should all Muslims be treated any differently under Australian law to how all Christians are treated? Mmmm? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Hanson's exact point - NO special consideration or allowances for Muslims.

Most Muslims aren't suggesting any. All they want is equal treatment. Equal treatment that you refuse to accord them, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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