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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #60 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:41pm

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 7:31pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 5:13pm:

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Brian do you think Islam actually deserves equal respect?

six of the deadliest snakes on the planet: Saw-scaled viper, King cobra, Tiger snake, Inland taipan, Faint-banded sea snake, Black mamba.

non-venomous: Boas, pythons, bullsnakes, and kingsnakes are examples of truly non-venomous snake species.

Apparently leftard apologists believe that you should treat all snakes the same.

To you, all Muslims are venomous, no matter how venomous they actually are. To me, they are simply Muslims, until they prove they are dangerous. I treat them as individuals, not a collective. Why? Because everybody is different, Moses. When you grow up and join the adult world, you'll have learnt that. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

A bit like neo nazis, communists, PHON members, no? Judge them each individually, not by what ideas they identify with.

Or is this only Muslims, Bwian? Are you a neo nazi, communist or PHON member? If not, you musn't criticise them or even express a view.

Nope and nope, Soren. Try again. You're pitiful in attempting to justify your persecution of an entire religious group who have done you no harm. Tsk, tsk. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What is the difference between peaceful, law abiding nazis, communists, Muslims, PHON members, conservatives, Cory, Milo, Trump supporters?

Which of these groups are you a member of, Bwian? In none, then do refrain from uttering critical opinions about them.

As a matter of point, do refrain from criticising anyone who is not a member of your in-group, Bwian.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, poor, Soren. Keep trying, just bang the rocks together. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #63 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 8:44am:

Brian do you think Islam actually deserves equal respect?

Yes.

Why? Is this based on ignorance of Islam?

And by respect, do you mean we should be able to mock Islam the way we do with Christianity (eg, Life of Brian) without fear?

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #64 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD. You appear willing to extend those rights to everybody else but not to Muslims. I wonder why? Doesn't your Islamophobia prevent you from doing it? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 8:44am:

Brian do you think Islam actually deserves equal respect?

Yes.

Why? Is this based on ignorance of Islam?

Nope.

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And by respect, do you mean we should be able to mock Islam the way we do with Christianity (eg, Life of Brian) without fear?

Have a hard think about it, FD. Eventually, if you keep banging the rocks together, you'll work it out. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #65 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD.

Muslims have these rights in the West (not in Muslim countries, not to mention non-Muslims in those countries).

However, there is no Right to be Respected, Bwian, that has to be earned.
Nor a Right not to be Offended. Muslims feel murderously offended by what other Muslims do or say, never mind us - and I don't mean you when I say us - kuffars.

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Reply #66 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:15pm

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD.

Muslims have these rights in the West (not in Muslim countries, not to mention non-Muslims in those countries).

However, there is no Right to be Respected, Bwian, that has to be earned.
Nor a Right not to be Offended. Muslims feel murderously offended by what other Muslims do or say, never mind us - and I don't mean you when I say us - kuffars.

You refuse to extend those rights to others, Soren because you fear the consequences. You would have to see them then as humans, on an equal to yourself. We know from your past postings that you hate people who have darker skin/differently shaped eyes/thicker lips/etc. To you, they are sub-humans. This of course, ignores all the Genetic evidence that shows they are exactly the same as you. Tsk, tsk.

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #67 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD. You appear willing to extend those rights to everybody else but not to Muslims. I wonder why? Doesn't your Islamophobia prevent you from doing it? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 8:44am:

Brian do you think Islam actually deserves equal respect?

Yes.

Why? Is this based on ignorance of Islam?

Nope.

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And by respect, do you mean we should be able to mock Islam the way we do with Christianity (eg, Life of Brian) without fear?

Have a hard think about it, FD. Eventually, if you keep banging the rocks together, you'll work it out. Roll Eyes

How am I doing that Brian?

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #68 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 9:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD.

Muslims have these rights in the West (not in Muslim countries, not to mention non-Muslims in those countries).

However, there is no Right to be Respected, Bwian, that has to be earned.
Nor a Right not to be Offended. Muslims feel murderously offended by what other Muslims do or say, never mind us - and I don't mean you when I say us - kuffars.

You refuse to extend those rights to others, Soren because you fear the consequences. You would have to see them then as humans, on an equal to yourself. We know from your past postings that you hate people who have darker skin/differently shaped eyes/thicker lips/etc. To you, they are sub-humans. This of course, ignores all the Genetic evidence that shows they are exactly the same as you. Tsk, tsk.

A complete lie. I am even more contemptuous of white converts to Islam. Natives at least liberate themselves and I am all for thiise.

White muslims are justt lost soul s who want to be lost and sup with ghe devil, to coin a psychological term.

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Reply #69 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:10pm

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD.

Muslims have these rights in the West (not in Muslim countries, not to mention non-Muslims in those countries).

However, there is no Right to be Respected, Bwian, that has to be earned.
Nor a Right not to be Offended. Muslims feel murderously offended by what other Muslims do or say, never mind us - and I don't mean you when I say us - kuffars.

You refuse to extend those rights to others, Soren because you fear the consequences. You would have to see them then as humans, on an equal to yourself. We know from your past postings that you hate people who have darker skin/differently shaped eyes/thicker lips/etc. To you, they are sub-humans. This of course, ignores all the Genetic evidence that shows they are exactly the same as you. Tsk, tsk.

A complete lie. I am even more contemptuous of white converts to Islam. Natives at least liberate themselves and I am all for thiise.

White muslims are justt lost soul s who want to be lost and sup with ghe devil, to coin a psychological term.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, Soren. Your Danish is showing through. Your Xenophobic friends in the playground will be upset. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #70 - Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:14pm

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

How am I doing that Brian?

By your merciless efforts to attack Muslims on every front, whenever possible.

My question is, why do you do this, Freediver?

When you start attacking Christians/Hindus/Jews/etc. for the same reasons you attack Muslims, I might believe you treat them all equally. You won't though, because you only apparently fear Muslims. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

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Reply #71 - Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

How am I doing that Brian?

By your merciless efforts to attack Muslims on every front, whenever possible.

My question is, why do you do this, Freediver?

When you start attacking Christians/Hindus/Jews/etc. for the same reasons you attack Muslims, I might believe you treat them all equally. You won't though, because you only apparently fear Muslims. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

FD is complicit in attacking freedom by his own standards. He once stated that proponents of freedom who do not stand up against attacks on freedom, are complicit in those attacks. Yet apart from a couple of token defenses of women's right to wear the burqa, the last more than 5 years ago, his response to daily attacks on muslim freedoms - including calls to intern them, deport them and deny them the right to worship - has been to scurry off into witness protection.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #72 - Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:59am

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

Brian is it persecuting Muslims to not give Islam "equal respect"?

Persecuting Muslims is not giving Muslims the rights they deserve, FD. Something you are very good at doing. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What rights am I denying Muslims Brian? The right to equal respect for Islam?

The rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Religion, FD.

Muslims have these rights in the West (not in Muslim countries, not to mention non-Muslims in those countries).

However, there is no Right to be Respected, Bwian, that has to be earned.
Nor a Right not to be Offended. Muslims feel murderously offended by what other Muslims do or say, never mind us - and I don't mean you when I say us - kuffars.

Frank likes to have a bob each way on this moral issue. On the one hand he cynically invokes the notion of western freedom to denote his superior moral identity, while at the same time he attacks that very ideal with statements like the one in my signature.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #73 - Feb 6^th, 2018 at 12:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

How am I doing that Brian?

By your merciless efforts to attack Muslims on every front, whenever possible.

My question is, why do you do this, Freediver?

When you start attacking Christians/Hindus/Jews/etc. for the same reasons you attack Muslims, I might believe you treat them all equally. You won't though, because you only apparently fear Muslims. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

Are you saying that criticising Muslims is the same as denying them the right to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association and Freedom of Religion?

Is it dawning on you yet how completely idiotic your posts are getting?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:54am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

How am I doing that Brian?

By your merciless efforts to attack Muslims on every front, whenever possible.

My question is, why do you do this, Freediver?

When you start attacking Christians/Hindus/Jews/etc. for the same reasons you attack Muslims, I might believe you treat them all equally. You won't though, because you only apparently fear Muslims. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

FD is complicit in attacking freedom by his own standards. He once stated that proponents of freedom who do not stand up against attacks on freedom, are complicit in those attacks. Yet apart from a couple of token defenses of women's right to wear the burqa, the last more than 5 years ago, his response to daily attacks on muslim freedoms - including calls to intern them, deport them and deny them the right to worship - has been to scurry off into witness protection.

Gandalf do you agree with Brian?

How do you go from someone defending freedom of dress to them being complicit in attacks on freedom of dress? Is this the same logic you use in 'interpreting' the Quran?

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Reply #74 - Feb 6^th, 2018 at 2:07pm

FD can you remember the last time you spoke out against the incessant attacks on muslim's freedoms? Serious question. Was it the burqa defense 5+ years ago? Are you appalled by the quote contained in my signature? Do you agree that its spineless apologism for the most flagrant of attacks on freedom?

About what Brian says, just one example, you advocate a religiously discriminatory immigration test, which involves targeting "people who appear muslim". You justified it with the "I'm only targeting political ideology - and since Islam is only political ideology, its ok" defense.

You have also expressed a willingness to join the attacks on muslim's freedoms if the terrorists can't be brought into line. So much for your "must defend even those we most oppose" mantra eh?

tsk tsk oh dear, rolls eyes

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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