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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #90 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 9:51am:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:33pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 5:45pm:

Why do Muslims come to the West and demand the right to re-create the Islamic shitholes they supposedly fled? Why don't all those hijabis and niqabis and bearded mutts flocking to Muslim countries? There are dozens of them, there must be a few that are not complete stink holes, no?

No.

They all want to go to the despised kuffar's countries and demand to be accommodated by a system they despise. Your hypocrisy is stupendous.

I doubt the ones who actually come here despise us. No seriously. The vast majority don't bring backward culture here and demand the caliphate or whatever. Yet you see a few harmless hijabs and funny beards, and you make that utterly ridiculous assumption. Shame on you. There is no discussion to be had with you, its nothing but pure bigotry. tsk tsk rolls eyes yawn

Not a few.

Far too many. You Muslims continue to oppress and bully and threaten each other when you come to the West.

The Hizbies, the Hezbollahs, the Hamas supporters, the various fundamentalist crazies in pajamas and beards wouldn't be positively thriving if you were speaking the truth. But you are lying once again.

Your position might actually be a bit more palatable if you didn't insist on making the bigoted connection between sinister intentions and choice of clothing. See how you effortlessly and seamlessly oscilate between 'too many hijabs/beards' and 'fundamental crazies' who just want to bully and threaten?

The strong connection is undeniable.

The stupid beards, the hijab and the niqab have no other point than to signal, from a mile away, their adherence to fundamentalist Islam, that is to say, orthodox Islam and strong personal resentment of Western institutions, modes of thinking and being. If it wasn't, they would dress like everyone else.

But the costume - completely anachronistic and out of place for all practical purposes in the West - IS a uniform, reminding all that they consider themselves belonging elsewhere and that elsewhere is rooted in Islam.

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Reply #91 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

How am I attacking them Brian?

By claiming that their decision to wear a Burqa is imposed on them without regard to whether it actually is or not. You are effectively declaring that their opinion is meaningless. To you, they are being oppressed. You've never asked a Muslim woman if she feels she is being oppressed. You've never asked them if someone made them wear a Burqa. You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the minds of Muslim women. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It hardly matters whether a fundamentalist male in the family, deeply attached to Islam and equally deeply hostile to Western liberties forces them to wear these uniforms or these women themselves have internalised a deep attachment to Islam and a commensurately deep hostility hostile to Western liberties and modes of existence.

The motivating force in either case is the same. The signal and significance of these garments is the same: anti-Western animus and hostility and Islamic virtue signalling.

In broad terms the recognition of this very root cause is behind every legislative curbing of the niqab. It is a sign of hostility towards Western society.

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Reply #92 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:53pm

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

How am I attacking them Brian?

By claiming that their decision to wear a Burqa is imposed on them without regard to whether it actually is or not. You are effectively declaring that their opinion is meaningless. To you, they are being oppressed. You've never asked a Muslim woman if she feels she is being oppressed. You've never asked them if someone made them wear a Burqa. You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the minds of Muslim women. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It hardly matters whether a fundamentalist male in the family, deeply attached to Islam and equally deeply hostile to Western liberties forces them to wear these uniforms or these women themselves have internalised a deep attachment to Islam and a commensurately deep hostility hostile to Western liberties and modes of existence.

The motivating force in either case is the same. The signal and significance of these garments is the same: anti-Western animus and hostility and Islamic virtue signalling.

In broad terms the recognition of this very root cause is behind every legislative curbing of the niqab. It is a sign of hostility towards Western society.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really have no understanding of feminism and the female mindset, do you, Soren? Absolutely none at all. I know so many women, Muslim and otherwise who'd have you for dinner over a comment like that. You have completely ignored the opinion of the women concerned. Totally and utterly. To you, they are inconsequential. Tsk, tsk. Such a foolish, foolish man. Roll Eyes

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Reply #93 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

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Reply #94 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #95 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 8:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Christianity and Judaism are positive. Islam is a negative.

History proves it.

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Reply #96 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 8:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

How am I attacking them Brian?

By claiming that their decision to wear a Burqa is imposed on them without regard to whether it actually is or not. You are effectively declaring that their opinion is meaningless. To you, they are being oppressed. You've never asked a Muslim woman if she feels she is being oppressed. You've never asked them if someone made them wear a Burqa. You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the minds of Muslim women. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It hardly matters whether a fundamentalist male in the family, deeply attached to Islam and equally deeply hostile to Western liberties forces them to wear these uniforms or these women themselves have internalised a deep attachment to Islam and a commensurately deep hostility hostile to Western liberties and modes of existence.

The motivating force in either case is the same. The signal and significance of these garments is the same: anti-Western animus and hostility and Islamic virtue signalling.

In broad terms the recognition of this very root cause is behind every legislative curbing of the niqab. It is a sign of hostility towards Western society.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really have no understanding of feminism and the female mindset, do you, Soren? Absolutely none at all. I know so many women, Muslim and otherwise who'd have you for dinner over a comment like that. You have completely ignored the opinion of the women concerned. Totally and utterly. To you, they are inconsequential. Tsk, tsk. Such a foolish, foolish man. Roll Eyes

What would they say?

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Re: Sinful path?
Reply #97 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 9:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

So merely by having a few spineless apologists disagree with what I say, I am denying Muslims the right to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Association and Freedom of Religion?

disagreeing with what you say? No FD, thats called lying, remember?

Do you agree with Brian?

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Reply #98 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 9:25pm

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Christianity and Judaism are positive. Islam is a negative.

History proves it.

Ask it's victims if they believe that, Soren. You really are a sorry sod, you realise? I wonder if all the children abused by Christian clergy believe that Christianity is a "positive" thing? I wonder if all the native peoples believe Christianity is a "positive" thing. Tsk, tsk, Christianity has killed millions upon millions of innocent people with it's "positivity". Roll Eyes

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Reply #99 - Feb 7^th, 2018 at 9:26pm

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

How am I attacking them Brian?

By claiming that their decision to wear a Burqa is imposed on them without regard to whether it actually is or not. You are effectively declaring that their opinion is meaningless. To you, they are being oppressed. You've never asked a Muslim woman if she feels she is being oppressed. You've never asked them if someone made them wear a Burqa. You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the minds of Muslim women. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It hardly matters whether a fundamentalist male in the family, deeply attached to Islam and equally deeply hostile to Western liberties forces them to wear these uniforms or these women themselves have internalised a deep attachment to Islam and a commensurately deep hostility hostile to Western liberties and modes of existence.

The motivating force in either case is the same. The signal and significance of these garments is the same: anti-Western animus and hostility and Islamic virtue signalling.

In broad terms the recognition of this very root cause is behind every legislative curbing of the niqab. It is a sign of hostility towards Western society.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really have no understanding of feminism and the female mindset, do you, Soren? Absolutely none at all. I know so many women, Muslim and otherwise who'd have you for dinner over a comment like that. You have completely ignored the opinion of the women concerned. Totally and utterly. To you, they are inconsequential. Tsk, tsk. Such a foolish, foolish man. Roll Eyes

What would they say?

That you're a sorry excuse for a human being, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Reply #100 - Feb 8^th, 2018 at 6:04am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Christianty has given positive things to the world. Islam has only brought negatives.

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Reply #101 - Feb 8^th, 2018 at 1:57pm

Frank wrote on Feb 8^th, 2018 at 6:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. [highlight]You hate Islam because you fear Muslims.[/highlight] You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Christianty has given positive things to the world. Islam has only brought negatives.

In your opinion and well, gosh, we all know how valuable your opinion actually is, don't we, Soren? I mean, I am sure we could sell some of it as ballast in shipping, it's really that useful.

Soren, all religions have provided positive things. They have also provided negative things. In the New World Christianity is believed to have killed over tens of millions of Native Americans under the Spanish Conquistadori. Judaism has killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in their illegally occupied lands. Islam has accounted killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions. They are all guilty of advocating the destruction of non-believers. Time you recognise that rather than just fearing Islam and Muslims.

In Australia, Islam has been responsible for a handful of deaths. Most Australian Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, well assimilated people. They don't like Terrorism any more than you do. They report their fellow Muslims who have succumbed to the disease to the Police and ASIO quite regularly. Time you recognised that and thanked them for being responsible Australians. Of course, you won't because you're an Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Such a silly, scared fellow. Roll Eyes

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Reply #102 - Feb 8^th, 2018 at 6:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8^th, 2018 at 1:57pm:

Soren, all religions have provided positive things. They have also provided negative things. In the New World Christianity is believed to have killed over tens of millions of Native Americans under the Spanish Conquistadori. Judaism has killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in their illegally occupied lands. Islam has accounted killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions. They are all guilty of advocating the destruction of non-believers. Time you recognise that rather than just fearing Islam and Muslims.

In Australia, Islam has been responsible for a handful of deaths. Most Australian Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, well assimilated people. They don't like Terrorism any more than you do. They report their fellow Muslims who have succumbed to the disease to the Police and ASIO quite regularly. Time you recognised that and thanked them for being responsible Australians. Of course, you won't because you're an Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Such a silly, scared fellow. Roll Eyes

Er.... Bwian!!!. You forgot (didn't you? Shocked

) to mention the positive things Islam has brought into the world. In truth you can't think of any either, like the rest of us but don't have the spine to face it.

Islam has brought nothing new or positive into the world, Bwian. That was said about 800 years ago and has never been refuted or disproved. Can you do it? No.

In the seventh conversation (διάλεξις - controversy) edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion". According to some of the experts, this is probably one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels", he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”[3] The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".[4]
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Reply #104 - Feb 8^th, 2018 at 9:37pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk. You really do need help with your Islamophobia. Until you admit that you have a problem, you'll get no where with it. You need to meet some Australian Muslims - the ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims whom live here, discuss their religion openly with them and accept their opinions as being truthful. Until you do, you'll get no where, except to continue to spout your Islamophobic hatred and your Racist and Xenophobia. Such a silly person. Roll Eyes

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