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Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm

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National Counter-Terrorism Plan
Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history. Australia’s National Counter-Terrorism Plan outlines the arrangements, governance and operational responsibilities of Australian governments and agencies engaged in countering terrorism.

Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism
Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Australia is not immune. The objective of Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism is to protect the lives of people working in, using, and visiting crowded places by making these places more resilient to terrorism.

National Terrorism Threat Advisory System
The National Terrorism Threat Advisory System informs the public on the likelihood of an act of terrorism occurring in Australia. The system provides information on what the threat level means, where the threat is coming from, potential targets and how a terrorist act may be carried out.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Find out more on the National Terrorism Threat Advisory System page.

It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

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Reply #1 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:31pm

You are aware that Australia has been targeted by other Terrorists, Moses?

Who is to say that we will not be again? We have been attacked by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian, Kurdish and other groups.

To limit ourselves to only one form of Terrorism is IMO stupid. However, that describes your views on the issue very well as well. Tsk, tsk.

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Reply #2 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:31pm:

You are aware that Australia has been targeted by other Terrorists, Moses?

Who is to say that we will not be again? We have been attacked by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian, Kurdish and other groups.

To limit ourselves to only one form of Terrorism is IMO stupid. However, that describes your views on the issue very well as well. Tsk, tsk.

If you had to draw up a threat assessment matrix and allocate resources where would you place attacks inspired by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian and Kurdish elements in your scale Brian. Where would you place Islamic inspired violence?

Who do you think is being targeted by bollards and parked semis?

You care to offer any answers or are you happy for your apologist bullshit to stand alone, looking more and more unmoored to reality?

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Reply #3 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:58pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:31pm:

You are aware that Australia has been targeted by other Terrorists, Moses?

Who is to say that we will not be again? We have been attacked by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian, Kurdish and other groups.

To limit ourselves to only one form of Terrorism is IMO stupid. However, that describes your views on the issue very well as well. Tsk, tsk.

If you had to draw up a threat assessment matrix and allocate resources where would you place attacks inspired by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian and Kurdish elements in your scale Brian. Where would you place Islamic inspired violence?

Who do you think is being targeted by bollards and parked semis?

You care to offer any answers or are you happy for your apologist bullshit to stand alone, looking more and more unmoored to reality?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I was criticising Moses for criticising the National Security Office for being realistic in their wording of what the are guarding against - Terrorism. No identification if it as Muslim or "Jewish, Serbian, Croatian and Kurdish," or any other form. Tell, what happens when the threat from Muslim Terrorists fades? Do we have to rewrite everything for the next threat, simply because you feel it is more important than the strategic/act of Terrorism? I'd prefer for the NSO to be realistic in what it is looking for. Be it Right Wing, Left Wing, Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Muslim Terrorists. They are all Terrorists. They all seek to kill innocent Australians. They are all extremists in their views. We need to guard against them all. If being extra-cautious and actually admitting to the threat annoys you, then I'd suggest you can be Islamophobic as you like, somewhere else. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:03pm

Aw gee we all know that there have been all kinds of terrorism in the past. (leftards live in the past to excuse islamic terrorism)

The advice says in part:Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history

Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

It's 2018 Brian the terrorist threat today right now all around the world is islamic terrorism. See it's not hard to say if you really want to stop it (a bit hard for the leftard apologists I know).

muslims are the top 24 listed terrorist organizations right now, there are no Jews, Serbs, Croats or Kurds.

While our security would be based on common sense, there is no denying that the present day threat is muslims who follow the qur'an to the very letter.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43056	Re: cleft palate? Reply #6 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm The wording is appropriate, Moses. You don't like it because it doesn't attack the very group you hate the most - Muslims. Tsk, tsk, sorry, appears we have realistic people in the ONS. Good on them.
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Reply #7 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:07pm

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm:

nationalsecurity.gov.au
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National Counter-Terrorism Plan
Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history. Australia’s National Counter-Terrorism Plan outlines the arrangements, governance and operational responsibilities of Australian governments and agencies engaged in countering terrorism.

Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism
Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Australia is not immune. The objective of Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism is to protect the lives of people working in, using, and visiting crowded places by making these places more resilient to terrorism.

National Terrorism Threat Advisory System
The National Terrorism Threat Advisory System informs the public on the likelihood of an act of terrorism occurring in Australia. The system provides information on what the threat level means, where the threat is coming from, potential targets and how a terrorist act may be carried out.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Find out more on the National Terrorism Threat Advisory System page.

It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

Well said.

It's why the internet is fast overtaking the print and mainstream broadcasting news services for delivering honest reporting without recourse to PC to save the feelings of minority communities.

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Reply #8 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:13pm

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm:

......It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

Exactly so, moses !!!!

This blatant, bare face denial, of reality [and TRUTH], is appalling.

Refusing to Name the Enemy in the War on Terror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpM8qk3t52A

The YT above exposes and underlines, the criminal incompetence, of many of those who are charged with countering the vicious, callous ISLAMIST terrorism, that we are witnessing in the West today.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #9 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:31pm:

You are aware that Australia has been targeted by other Terrorists, Moses?

Who is to say that we will not be again? We have been attacked by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian, Kurdish and other groups.

To limit ourselves to only one form of Terrorism is IMO stupid. However, that describes your views on the issue very well as well. Tsk, tsk.

If you had to draw up a threat assessment matrix and allocate resources where would you place attacks inspired by Jewish, Serbian, Croatian and Kurdish elements in your scale Brian. Where would you place Islamic inspired violence?

Who do you think is being targeted by bollards and parked semis?

You care to offer any answers or are you happy for your apologist bullshit to stand alone, looking more and more unmoored to reality?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I was criticising Moses for criticising the National Security Office for being realistic in their wording of what the are guarding against - Terrorism. No identification if it as Muslim or "Jewish, Serbian, Croatian and Kurdish," or any other form. Tell, what happens when the threat from Muslim Terrorists fades? Do we have to rewrite everything for the next threat, simply because you feel it is more important than the strategic/act of Terrorism? I'd prefer for the NSO to be realistic in what it is looking for. Be it Right Wing, Left Wing, Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Muslim Terrorists. They are all Terrorists. They all seek to kill innocent Australians. They are all extremists in their views. We need to guard against them all. If being extra-cautious and actually admitting to the threat annoys you, then I'd suggest you can be Islamophobic as you like, somewhere else. Roll Eyes

Not annoyed at all. Amused. You are happy to be the apologist and point fingers everywhere else but Islam as part of your agenda of deflection and apologism, but as cringingly PC and pathetic as you are you baulked at blatently advertising your submission to unmoored fantasy, you know what your honest answer to those questions would have been, which is why you refused to answer. Silly as you are, even you know why the bollards are there, why semis are there.

Your pathology is not in denying reality, you accept it, your pathology is being so PC that you refuse to acknowledge the modern reality of terrorism.

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Reply #10 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:17pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:07pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm:

nationalsecurity.gov.au
Quote:

National Counter-Terrorism Plan
Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history. Australia’s National Counter-Terrorism Plan outlines the arrangements, governance and operational responsibilities of Australian governments and agencies engaged in countering terrorism.

Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism
Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Australia is not immune. The objective of Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism is to protect the lives of people working in, using, and visiting crowded places by making these places more resilient to terrorism.

National Terrorism Threat Advisory System
The National Terrorism Threat Advisory System informs the public on the likelihood of an act of terrorism occurring in Australia. The system provides information on what the threat level means, where the threat is coming from, potential targets and how a terrorist act may be carried out.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Find out more on the National Terrorism Threat Advisory System page.

It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

Well said.

It's why the internet is fast overtaking the print and mainstream broadcasting news services for delivering honest reporting without recourse to PC to save the feelings of minority communities.

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Reply #11 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:33pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:14pm:

Not annoyed at all. Amused. You are happy to be the apologist and point fingers everywhere else but Islam as part of your agenda of deflection and apologism.

Actually, if you climbed down off your high horse, you'd release all I am doing is pointing out that there are other sources of Terrorism. There have been and always will be. So, if the ONS followed Moses' advice and use the word "Islamic" or "Muslim" in it's statement, what happens when say, a Hindu Terrorist or a Christian Terrorist decides to strike in Australia? Should the ONS ignore them because their mission statement doesn't included them?

Yes, and as I have always admitted, there are Islamic Terrorists. However, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are not supporters of or partakers of Terrorism - a fact that you and the other Islamophobes refuse to acknowledge. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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But even as cringingly PC and pathetic as you are, you baulked at blatently advertising your submission to unmoored fantasy.

You know what your honest answer to those questions would have been, which is why you refused to answer.

Silly as you are, even you know why the bollards are there, why semis are there.

Your pathology is not in denying reality, you accept it, your pathology is being so PC that you refuse to acknowledge the modern reality of terrorism.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, some blatant Islamophobia on display there. When you've grown up and left your playground, we might be able to talk about this topic seriously. Now, run along, I hear the other kids calling you from your playground. Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:07pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm:

nationalsecurity.gov.au
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National Counter-Terrorism Plan
Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history. Australia’s National Counter-Terrorism Plan outlines the arrangements, governance and operational responsibilities of Australian governments and agencies engaged in countering terrorism.

Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism
Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Australia is not immune. The objective of Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism is to protect the lives of people working in, using, and visiting crowded places by making these places more resilient to terrorism.

National Terrorism Threat Advisory System
The National Terrorism Threat Advisory System informs the public on the likelihood of an act of terrorism occurring in Australia. The system provides information on what the threat level means, where the threat is coming from, potential targets and how a terrorist act may be carried out.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Find out more on the National Terrorism Threat Advisory System page.

It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

Well said.

It's why the internet is fast overtaking the print and mainstream broadcasting news services for delivering honest reporting without recourse to PC to save the feelings of minority communities.

Until they are hit with lawsuits. Tsk, tsk, Herbie, you really are being rather foolish. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:07pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:22pm:

nationalsecurity.gov.au
Quote:

National Counter-Terrorism Plan
Terrorism poses a direct and ongoing threat to the safety and wellbeing of Australians both in Australia and abroad. The current terrorism threat to Australia and Australian interests is unprecedented in our history. Australia’s National Counter-Terrorism Plan outlines the arrangements, governance and operational responsibilities of Australian governments and agencies engaged in countering terrorism.

Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism
Crowded places such as stadiums, shopping centres, pedestrian malls and major events will continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Australia is not immune. The objective of Australia’s Strategy for Protecting Crowded Places from Terrorism is to protect the lives of people working in, using, and visiting crowded places by making these places more resilient to terrorism.

National Terrorism Threat Advisory System
The National Terrorism Threat Advisory System informs the public on the likelihood of an act of terrorism occurring in Australia. The system provides information on what the threat level means, where the threat is coming from, potential targets and how a terrorist act may be carried out.

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Find out more on the National Terrorism Threat Advisory System page.

It must be part of a positive discrimination programme.

A.S.I.O. the federal Police etc. must only employ people with a speech impediment: They can't say islamic terror.

Well said.

It's why the internet is fast overtaking the print and mainstream broadcasting news services for delivering honest reporting without recourse to PC to save the feelings of minority communities.

Until they are hit with lawsuits. Tsk, tsk, Herbie, you really are being rather foolish. Roll Eyes

Public officials and politicians don't get sued every time they raise Islamic terrorism, and why should they? It's an important discussion.

I don't see the need, however, to put it in policy. Terrorism is terrorism. A bomb threat, a car-killing, a shooting - police don't need a label in order to respond.

Counter-terrorism, on the other hand - prevention - does. I've worked with a Department of Education program that engages disengaged youth in order to prevent them getting involved with ISIS or other terrorist cells.

Gladly, they don't have enough "at risk" clients. I worked with them on an autistic Chinese boy. I would have preferred that they left this kid alone and focused on the ISIS crowd. They gave the kid's school no end of grief.

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Reply #14 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:33pm:

Yes, and as I have always admitted, there are Islamic Terrorists. However, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are not supporters of or partakers of Terrorism - a fact that you and the other Islamophobes refuse to acknowledge. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian you will look in vain for me saying anything close to all Muslims are terrorists. Being very well acquainted with reality I am perfectly aware that those who commit the violent acts are a small minority, so you can shove your strawman attempt.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:33pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, some blatant Islamophobia on display there. When you've grown up and left your playground, we might be able to talk about this topic seriously. Now, run along, I hear the other kids calling you from your playground. Roll Eyes

You total idiot, recognising that the bollards and parked semis are a response to Islamic inspired violence using cars as weapons is not "islamaphobia" you cretin. It is reality, it is a measure undertaken here and in other cities to frustrate the efforts of Islamists. Why do you think the bollards are there dickhead?

That you think recognising the reality of the need and reason for bollards is "islamaphobia" speaks more to your particular brand of unthinking submissive apologism.

It is not my concern that you feel personally unable to criticise Islam, that you have nailed your allegiances firmly to the mast.

Your personal commitment to never criticising Islam doesn't give you a free pass to comment without being called on your stupidity or labelling.

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