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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #105 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 6:54pm  
I hope these women have not been stoned to death for their actions, it will be caught on video and downloaded to the world   
for all to see, start running oppressors the women are Jacked off.
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Reply #106 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 6:56pm  
kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   


Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?


Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it for what it is.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #107 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:12pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:
kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   


Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.


Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?


It's worn by Muslims when they are in free countries.

No woman, free of Islam, would ever choose to deface herself in 2018.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #108 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm  
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:
kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   


Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.


Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?


It's worn by Muslims when they are in free countries.

No woman, free of Islam, would ever choose to deface herself in 2018.


Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.

Time you crawled out of your cellar and looked at the real world for a change.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #109 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:09am  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.


And you know they choose to wear the veil, Bwian?
And if you do know, tell us what motivates them in their choice.  Go on, Bwian, you seem to know so much for someone who knows nothing about a lot of things.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #110 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:10am  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:
kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   


Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.


Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?


It's worn by Muslims when they are in free countries.

No woman, free of Islam, would ever choose to deface herself in 2018.


Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

Tell us about the difference between the 'many' and all, Bwian.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #111 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 1:29am  
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:09am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.


And you know they choose to wear the veil, Bwian?
And if you do know, tell us what motivates them in their choice.  Go on, Bwian, you seem to know so much for someone who knows nothing about a lot of things.


You know he can't have an opinion on that, he's not a woman and is not a follower of Islam.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #112 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:29am  
They're forced to wear it....or they're flogged in public.
Yep that's islam.  Wink

Here in Australia if they don't wear it, they're flooged at home.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #113 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:41am  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:
kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   


Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.


Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?


It's worn by Muslims when they are in free countries.

No woman, free of Islam, would ever choose to deface herself in 2018.


Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.

Time you crawled out of your cellar and looked at the real world for a change.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes


Some women choose not to get raped or assaulted. This is Brian's version of freedom of choice.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #114 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 11:14am  
Setanta wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 1:29am:
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:09am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.


And you know they choose to wear the veil, Bwian?
And if you do know, tell us what motivates them in their choice.  Go on, Bwian, you seem to know so much for someone who knows nothing about a lot of things.


You know he can't have an opinion on that, he's not a woman and is not a follower of Islam.



Of course.

Ask him anything about arseholes then.
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Reply #115 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 11:30am  
Freedom,  eh Brian?

(CNN)Police in the Iranian capital, Tehran, have arrested 29 people for their involvement in protests against the country's compulsory headscarf law.

Women across Iran have been removing their headscarves in public to protest Iran's strict Islamic dress code. Videos and photos shared on social media have shown demonstrators standing on utility boxes on street sidewalks, defiantly waving their hijabs.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/islamic-republic-of-iran-arrests-29-women-for...
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Reply #116 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 11:47am  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:
You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”


No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   



It is a religious garment.

Hijab: Denial of right to hijab is war against Islam – Al-Muminaat

“Hijab is a religious duty enjoined upon the Muslim woman by God. In Quran 24:31 Allah says “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty, that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (may ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their bossoms and not display their beauty…” and in Quran 33:59 Allah says “O prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters as well as other believing women, that they Should draw over themselves their outer garments (veils when in public); this will be more Conducive to their being recognized (as decent women) and not molested”

“It is NOT the culture of Arabs as some would want to make us believe or a fashion accessory that one may discard at will. It is a religious duty and an obligation on every Muslim woman in the observance of her faith.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/02/hijab-denial-right-hijab-war-islam-al-mumina...
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Reply #117 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 11:57am  
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.

Time you crawled out of your cellar and looked at the real world for a change.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes

A Muslim student tried to get another student expelled Thursday, which was World Hijab Day, after the second student refused to wear a hijab.

A Muslim student at the University of Central Florida said that she invited fellow student Kathy Zhu to try on a hijab, reported Twitchy. After Zhu declined her offer, the Muslim student, identified by Zhu to The Daily Caller News Foundation as UCF health sciences student Rayyan Sukkarieh, took to Twitter, posting “let’s get this girl expelled.”

Shocked Shocked  shurely shome mishtake.
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Reply #118 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:01pm  
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Iran Regime’s Senior Mullah Says, Protesters Are Rebels and Must Be Executed
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Reply #119 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 10:44pm  
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 12:09am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:59pm:
Many Muslim women choose to wear the veil because they choose to, Soren.

The veil is not an "enforced" item of clothing, under Islam.   Some men may force women to wear it but that is not a part of Islam.


And you know they choose to wear the veil, Bwian?
And if you do know, tell us what motivates them in their choice.  Go on, Bwian, you seem to know so much for someone who knows nothing about a lot of things.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I talk to women. Muslim women.  It appears to be something you are afraid of with your Islamophobia.   Try it, you might become educated.    Roll Eyes
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