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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #15 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:52pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:45pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:45pm:

The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil.

Miam miam

Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to.

It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol.

Can you not, please?

Are you uptight about matters sexual?

No, I'm not. I'm uptight about people making lewd comments about women.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #16 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 6:05pm

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:45pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:45pm:

The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil.

Miam miam

Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to.

It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol.

Can you not, please?

Are you uptight about matters sexual?

No, I'm not. I'm uptight about people making lewd comments about women.

I make extreme comments on just about everything.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #17 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:11pm

But in April 2016, officials said there were 7,000 undercover morality police reporting on things like 'bad hijab' - a blanket term usually referring to un-Islamic dress by women.

Figures are rarely given, but Tehran's traffic police said in late 2015 they had dealt with 40,000 cases of bad hijab in cars, where women often let their headscarves drop around their necks.

These cases generally led to fines and a temporary impounding of the vehicle.

source

Good old muslim boys at it again.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #18 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #19 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Simple, really.

"... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering?

"The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

"Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women."

Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil?

moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #20 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Simple, really.

"... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering?

"The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

"Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women."

Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil?

moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

Why did you do it, moses?

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #21 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #22 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

It seems that Baronvonrort doesn't know what 'parentheses' means.

"... no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

Grin

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #23 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:25pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:45pm:

The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil.

Miam miam

Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to.

It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

Was she good in the sack Gordy. Was she hairy?

We were nearly goingto get married.

Crikies. She must have been good.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #24 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #25 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #26 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

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The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

But the Hadith do. Are you disputing the authenticity of the Hadith?

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #27 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:46pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

But the Hadith do. Are you disputing the authenticity of the Hadith?

I'm addressing the post from moses.

He said: "Good to see people disobeying the qur'an".

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #28 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?

The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah
Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

The quran doesn't say anything about stoning to death for adultery yet every muslim will say that is the punishment for adultery.

The Saudis,Iranians, Taliban,Boko Haram, Al Shaabab all stone people to death for adultery, Indonesia tried to bring back stoning to death a few years ago.

Muslims also have something called the sunnah - for sunnis it's abudawud,Bukhari,Muslim, etc while the Shia have Al Kafi, the doctrinal differences bewteen the sects come from the sunnah not the quran.

All you are showing is how ignorant Islamic apologists like you really are when it comes to Islam.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #29 - Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Simple, really.

"... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering?

"The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

"Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women."

Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil?

moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

Busted!

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