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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #90 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

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Reply #91 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #92 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition??? Grin

I don't think so. It might not be law but it's sure forced socially. Grin

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #93 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:50pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's sure forced socially.

Correct.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #94 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:14pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.

These are signs of women's submission to Allah who says they, the women, are satan's tempters of men, worth only half as much as men and must be kept out of sight lest men cannot control themselves. Islam is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules for every act.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #95 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's sure forced socially.

Correct.

enforcement is enforcement pecca.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #96 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

So, you won’t condemn a medieval 7th century practice of segregation and misogyny. So much for being tolerant of the intolerant, Brian

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #97 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's sure forced socially.

Correct.

enforcement is enforcement pecca.

Indeed.

And ignorance is ignorance, Homo.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #98 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's sure forced socially.

Correct.

enforcement is enforcement pecca.

Indeed.

And ignorance is ignorance, Homo.

Ignorance is not understanding how pressuring Muslim societies are on women. Woman who don't wear hair coverings in most muslim countries are seen as sl uts. They have no choice but to wear the bloody thing.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #99 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:28pm

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea. I am neither female nor Muslim. Some women decry it, some applaud it. Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing. Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't. Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in. Which is the same for all societies. Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.

Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?

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These are signs of women's submission to Allah who says they, the women, are satan's tempters of men, worth only half as much as men and must be kept out of sight lest men cannot control themselves. Islam is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules for every act.

There are signs of women's submission to Christ who, through Saint Paul, said that they, women are satan's tempters of men, worth only less than men and must be silent, be subservient to men, how they must dress and so on. Christianity is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules. Tsk, tsk, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Iranian women remove their veils Reply #100 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way. Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.
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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #101 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:36pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm:

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way.
Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

He'd love you, then.

You're always talking out your ass.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #102 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm:

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way.
Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

He'd love you, then.

You're always talking out your ass.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #103 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:50pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm:

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way.
Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

He'd love you, then.

You're always talking out your ass.

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif

At least i am not a horses arse,, boom tish.

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Re: Iranian women remove their veils
Reply #104 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm:

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way.
Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

He'd love you, then.

You're always talking out your ass.

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif

At least i am not a horses arse,, boom tish.

A bit late Gronk, the moment has passed.

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