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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #30 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

gandalf wrote:Reply #20 - Yesterday at 6:59pm
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Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

Why all the oblique answers gandi?

You've already admitted islam causes the problem, with your "oh but we construe it differently".

If islam can be misconstrued, that does not absolve the doctrine, it's an admission that islam is the problem.

You go to any lengths to get away from the only real solution to your trouble e.g.: an exhaustive review of the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates islamic terrorism.

We all know why you are afraid of this. By muslims" own foolishness in declaring the qur'an to be infallible and unchangeable, you've locked yourself into the eternal cycle of islamic degeneracy.

One question and the whole show collapses.

So we have a situation where muslims and their apologists bend over backwards to avoid the one real answer.

You both prefer the incessant depravity to simply reviewing the evil in the qur'an.

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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #31 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:38pm

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.

Once again we see this bizarre mindset that I simply cannot fathom. Rather than once again attempting to painstakingly plot out my argument, lets try with a simple question.

Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

You can't fathom???

Well, fathom this: you are simply not trusted, as a Muslim. Not you, not any other Muslim. You have zero credit in the trust department. You send girls, children, mentally retarded on suicide missions. You are sly, duplicitous, completely untrustworthy.

Fathom that.

Wow how about that Frank - I personally strap bombs to retarded kids and make them blow themselves up. You got me.

Shouldn't you like, report me to the police or something?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #32 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:40pm

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.

Once again we see this bizarre mindset that I simply cannot fathom. Rather than once again attempting to painstakingly plot out my argument, lets try with a simple question.

Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

False dichotomy.

Only if you assume all muslims are sinister by nature.

For as Frank pointed out - I personally blow up kiddies.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran Reply #33 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:47pm Gandalf, Do you agree that there is a difference between Islam and Islamism? Islamism being the ideology of imposing Islam on a society.
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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #34 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.

Once again we see this bizarre mindset that I simply cannot fathom. Rather than once again attempting to painstakingly plot out my argument, lets try with a simple question.

Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

You can't fathom???

Well, fathom this: you are simply not trusted, as a Muslim. Not you, not any other Muslim. You have zero credit in the trust department. You send girls, children, mentally retarded on suicide missions. You are sly, duplicitous, completely untrustworthy.

Fathom that.

Wow how about that Frank - I personally strap bombs to retarded kids and make them blow themselves up. You got me.

Shouldn't you like, report me to the police or something?

Oh, you'll keep. You wait until the old boy sees you on the street.

You'd better have your kaftan firmly secured, I can tell you that much.

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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #35 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 6:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.

Once again we see this bizarre mindset that I simply cannot fathom. Rather than once again attempting to painstakingly plot out my argument, lets try with a simple question.

Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

You can't fathom???

Well, fathom this: you are simply not trusted, as a Muslim. Not you, not any other Muslim. You have zero credit in the trust department. You send girls, children, mentally retarded on suicide missions. You are sly, duplicitous, completely untrustworthy.

Fathom that.

Wow how about that Frank - I personally strap bombs to retarded kids and make them blow themselves up. You got me.

Shouldn't you like, report me to the police or something?

Sorry, pal, I should have realised that you have assimilated to the lebbo way of speaking English and think 'youse'. You Muslims - youse Muslims. Geddit??

You are just like a KKK member who hasn't personally lynched anyone. But you remain a member despite the lynchings. Or members of the Communist Party after the various Soviet invasions of people who didn't want communism any more. You are not handing in your membership card.

So 'you' - sorry, 'youse' - is correct.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96560	Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran Reply #36 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 10:19pm He's assimilating alright. Every day in every way, the old boy keeps getting better and better. Why do we take in people from the shithole countries when we have the old boy? University of Balogney, innit.
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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #37 - Feb 21^st, 2018 at 6:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:40pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.

Once again we see this bizarre mindset that I simply cannot fathom. Rather than once again attempting to painstakingly plot out my argument, lets try with a simple question.

Would you prefer muslims
a) preaching and practicing a peaceful, tolerant version of Islam?
b) running around calling for infidels to be slaughtered, and actually slaughtering infidels?

False dichotomy.

Only if you assume all muslims are sinister by nature.

For as Frank pointed out - I personally blow up kiddies.

It's got nothing to do with that.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran Reply #38 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 8:38am So why was my question a false dichotomy?
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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #39 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 12:06pm

I am sure there are plenty of other options he would prefer to the two you presented. You are basically trying to guilt trip people into accepting your delusions about Islam without question by insisting the only alternative is Islamic terrorism, and that such terrorism would be their fault for being honest about Islam.

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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #40 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 12:25pm

freediver wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 12:06pm:

I am sure there are plenty of other options he would prefer to the two you presented. You are basically trying to guilt trip people into accepting your delusions about Islam without question by insisting the only alternative is Islamic terrorism, and that such terrorism would be their fault for being honest about Islam.

It is not a false dichotomy FD, as I never said it was an exhaustive list of options. I'm asking what of the two scenarios would he (or you) prefer.

Would you like to have a go at answering the question? Is it better for muslims to be preaching love and peace and tolerance - or violence and intolerance? Its not a trick question.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #41 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:24pm

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Is it better for muslims to be preaching love and peace and tolerance - or violence and intolerance? Its not a trick question.

The world will only be a better place when muslims have the honesty to thoroughly investigate those parts of the qur'an which facilitate the preaching and practicing of violence and intolerance.

muslims are the worlds' top 25 listed terrorist organizations, because of these teachings.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96560	Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran Reply #42 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:25pm moses wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:24pm: Quote: Is it better for muslims to be preaching love and peace and tolerance - or violence and intolerance? Its not a trick question. violence and intolerance. That's what we thought, Moses. Thanks.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42402	Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran Reply #43 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:27pm The world will only be a better place when Christians have the honesty to thoroughly investigate those parts of the Bible which facilitate the preaching and practicing of violence and intolerance.
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Re: Motivated straight from the verses of Quran
Reply #44 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:

The world will only be a better place when Christians have the honesty to thoroughly investigate those parts of the Bible which facilitate the preaching and practicing of violence and intolerance. Roll Eyes

old rubbish in books only a problem when people are acting on it's contents Brian.

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