Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10
th, 2018 at 1:55pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 10
th, 2018 at 1:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10
th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 10
th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Of course belief has a place in religion. That’s precisely my point. Christians believe that Christ existed and was the sin of god. That I don’t believe it doesn’t mean I can’t talk about it.
I am not suggesting that you don't. However, why is the belief of Christians about Christ existing and being the son of God acceptable but the Muslim's beliefs about Mohammad not acceptable?
Both are based upon fairy tales and myths, as far as I am concerned. Both are as equally valid therefore. Why do people get upset when I question Christianity in the same way they are questioning Islam? Could it be because they are Christians and not Muslims? Mmmm?
Because as I’ve said before, in this thread we’re talking about specifically the actions and teachings of both founders.
I’m willing to concede as you’ve mentioned that supplement teachings have been added into the religions, such as the just war theory.
But for now, we’re talking just about Jesus and Mohammad. That’s it.
And you know about Jesus and his "miracles", how, again, Augie? Oh, thats right, The Bible. Oh, dear, guess who wrote and edited The Bible? The Church(es). Funny how they control the only source of information about their Messiah, isn't it? Tsk, tsk.
Perhaps Brian still thinks that the actions and words of the prophets have no impact at all on how followers interpret them. Comparing religions is nothing more than comparing different card tricks. This must be how he got his doctor of divinity.
Brian, you could always try thinking for yourself rather than copying and pasting endless tracts.
Quote:Oh, no. Not at all. The problem is you're comparing the actions of two mythical figures. It is like comparing Odin with Zeus. Rather pointless, really, don't you think?
Not if the two mythologies are different and encourage different actions in the followers. You can deny Odin and Zeus are real all you want, but you cannot deny that the consequences of following them are real, and different. Or perhaps you can, but only if you are the sort of person who thinks we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions.
Quote:Not it’s not if we’re talking about people who claim to be of those faith that has real consequences.
That's pretty much what Brian believes. Or says, at least.
Quote:Oh, I don't shy away. I just prefer to be there some proof what was claimed did occur, Augie
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What if we are not talking about what did or didn't happen, but about the real, modern consequences of what people believe happened? Why do you always retreat to the idiotic?
Quote:So, on the assumption that both characters are fictional, with no basis in reality, and from what ‘stories’ we know of, which fictional character is more peaceful comparatively??
Brian can't tell you that. He can only tell you what is the same about them.
Quote:Oh, I don't shy away. I just prefer to be there some proof what was claimed did occur, Augie. Unfortunately, there isn't. The believers in both cases have changed the perceptions of other believers to match their views of their religious leaders' actions and why they did what they did. For all we know, Jesus was like my namesake, Brian. Mohammad was the same. They were complete nincompoops who were turned into the founders of new religions after they died because it suited their followers to do so.
Brian do you believe that what the Quran and Bible actually say has no impact on how the followers interpret it? Or is that too stupid even for you to actually say (more than once)?
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