You are an idiot, Bwian.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515476979/6#6

Old board liar, dearie me tsk tsk secret womens business, the Australian National Security has got it all wrong, now is saying that verses which tell Christians to love the God of the living and love their neighbours, really means to let your enemies kill you.

No wonder he loves muslim killers and continually tries to excuse them.

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2018 at 10:33pm:


Thats rich, from the guy who still hasn't conceded that his claim that it was "years" between the hijra and the first caravan raid is wrong. And still you duck and weave from it.

In my defense, wikipedia says (from memory) that the first 3 raids were by muhajirun. I was disputing your rather ambiguous claim that "it" was the first attack for most of them. How were we supposed to interpret "it" FD? It seems to be singular, as in the 'first' attack - rather than the plurality of all attacks.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 3:14pm:


The Hijra was 622. Muhammad (and his followers) did not manage to murder any Meccans in the name of Islam until raids in 624.

Now that you are aware of the basic historical facts, would you like to revisit my claim that Muhammad had very limited success with his religion until he started stealing and murdering innocent people?

Would you like to revisit the various excuses you have offered for Muhammad's career murdering innocent traders and stealing their goods?

Here is a list of them:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Deception_and_the_Just_War_Doctrin...

Only the original Muslims who fled Mecca and were thus wronged by the Meccans took part in murdering Meccan traders and stealing their goods. Muslims will even back this up with a link to a wikipedia article clearly saying the opposite. [8][9]
Muhammad was merely taking revenge for the Meccan emigrants. [10]
Muhammad only ever killed people in self defence. [11]
Muhammad was leading a nation when he fled Mecca and a state of war thus existed from then until he started murdering Meccan traders. [12][13][14]
There must be a different definition for nation in 7th century Arabia. [15]
Muhammad was only concerned for the welfare of 'his people'. [16]
Muhammad only ever killed people to survive. [17][18]
Mecca was the only commercial centre in the area. [19]
The people of Medina were non-farmers in a farming area. [20][21]
It was the only option Muslims had for survival. [22]
Murder and bloodlust were not the 'primary' objective of the raids. [23]
Muhammad was under political pressure from his followers to take revenge. [24]
They were not allowed to trade in Mecca. [25]
Muhammad first raided Meccan traders and stole their goods within a year of fleeing Medina. [26]

Also, where did you get your "alternative facts" from?

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 6:29pm:



Yet you are an idiot. Thinking, as you feign,  that any contribution to a particular thread would be a decisive or relevant just confirms the proposition: you are an idiot.

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 9:37pm:


Is he right Brian? Have you ever criticised Islam? Or do you lack both the right and ability to do so?

Frank wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 7:52pm:


Brain's still tossing up whether he should roger you, dear boy, but when he finally goes in, you'll cheer up no end.

You'll squeal like a pig for hours, you naughty old thing. We'd all like a picture of your enlarged, lipstick-smudged sphincter when you're done, thanks.

No more words, old boy, it's time for action.