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Reply #46 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 11:49am

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 11:34am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:32am:

No, FD, I'm saying I've only ever heard Muslims say ISIS are unIslamic.

Islam is divided into the 'House of Peace' and the 'House of War'. That's why Muslim scholars are saying the ISIS mob are not heretics.

Which Muslim scholars, Herbie?

I'm curious.

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Reply #47 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:32am:

You like to listen to what Muslims themselves say, no?

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

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Reply #48 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 2:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:32am:

You like to listen to what Muslims themselves say, no?

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Thanks, G. This makes perfect sense. We have to listen to what FD says what Muslims themselves say.

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Reply #49 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:07pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:40am:

Frank wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:20am:

No, Gordon, I'm telling you I have never met or heard one Muslim who hasn't condemned ISIS and said it's completely un-Islamic. Apart from Man Monis.

You?

Ah, the self-referential Bwian argument: - no-one told me so it doesn't exist.

Never mind the thousands who went to fight for ISIS from all over the world, and the millions who supported them from afar. None of them personally revealed themselves to you so it's all non-existent.

That's right, dear boy. I've not heard a squeak out of them.

There is an exception though. Remember Zacky Mallah? He went to Syria. The Australian made him the poster child of reformed extremists - an example for Australian Muslim youth, who he told his story to in schools.

Then he went onto Q&A and asked a minister a tricky question.

Well. Wasn't that a right kerfuffle?

You blamed Islam, remember? Miranda Divine has the right to not be offended.

Along with your good self, naturalicht.

Going from 'I never heard one' to Miranda Devine via some jihadi prick in three steps illustrates just what slippery, autistic worms you and Bwian are. McTurd is also trying but it's beyond him. Gandalf is less blatant but of the same school of haggling and gauche sleight-of- hand rhetoric.

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Reply #50 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:22pm

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:40am:

Frank wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:20am:

No, Gordon, I'm telling you I have never met or heard one Muslim who hasn't condemned ISIS and said it's completely un-Islamic. Apart from Man Monis.

You?

Ah, the self-referential Bwian argument: - no-one told me so it doesn't exist.

Never mind the thousands who went to fight for ISIS from all over the world, and the millions who supported them from afar. None of them personally revealed themselves to you so it's all non-existent.

That's right, dear boy. I've not heard a squeak out of them.

There is an exception though. Remember Zacky Mallah? He went to Syria. The Australian made him the poster child of reformed extremists - an example for Australian Muslim youth, who he told his story to in schools.

Then he went onto Q&A and asked a minister a tricky question.

Well. Wasn't that a right kerfuffle?

You blamed Islam, remember? Miranda Divine has the right to not be offended.

Along with your good self, naturalicht.

Going from 'I never heard one' to Miranda Devine via some jihadi prick in three steps illustrates just what slippery, autistic worms you and Bwian are. McTurd is also trying but it's beyond him. Gandalf is less blatant but of the same school of haggling and gauche sleight-of- hand rhetoric.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. You know, you obviously aren't really a trick-cyclist, are you? No one with your attitudes would find any work in that field. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #51 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:42pm

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:40am:

Frank wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:20am:

No, Gordon, I'm telling you I have never met or heard one Muslim who hasn't condemned ISIS and said it's completely un-Islamic. Apart from Man Monis.

You?

Ah, the self-referential Bwian argument: - no-one told me so it doesn't exist.

Never mind the thousands who went to fight for ISIS from all over the world, and the millions who supported them from afar. None of them personally revealed themselves to you so it's all non-existent.

That's right, dear boy. I've not heard a squeak out of them.

There is an exception though. Remember Zacky Mallah? He went to Syria. The Australian made him the poster child of reformed extremists - an example for Australian Muslim youth, who he told his story to in schools.

Then he went onto Q&A and asked a minister a tricky question.

Well. Wasn't that a right kerfuffle?

You blamed Islam, remember? Miranda Divine has the right to not be offended.

Along with your good self, naturalicht.

Going from 'I never heard one' to Miranda Devine via some jihadi prick in three steps illustrates just what slippery, autistic worms you and Bwian are. McTurd is also trying but it's beyond him. Gandalf is less blatant but of the same school of haggling and gauche sleight-of- hand rhetoric.

But, my dear, dear fellow, you yourself recruited for ISIS, remember? You said the more the merrier - send them all over. Saves us the trouble of carpetbombing them. We'll keep Australia for the immigrants.

Tanned immigrants, of course.

Tinted - tanned; stupid - mendacious; correlation - causation. Potato. Potahto.

Let's call the whole thing off, no?

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Reply #52 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:48pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:32am:

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 8:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 1:29pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 12:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:20am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:07am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 11:04am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 10:46am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 10:33am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 9:33am:

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Well worth a listen, during which he correctly points out that there's no such thing as 'Islamism' ~ it's all just 'Islam'. That's why Islamic scholars have been saying that ISIS have not been committing heresy with their beheadings and militant behaviour.

I have not heard a Muslim yet who doesn't condemn ISIS, Herbie.

You?

You're a lying worthless Muslim donkey.

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Actually, you're right. There was Man Monis. He hung up their flag.

Anybody else, dear?

Are you telling me there are no Muslims in Sydney with ISIS sympathies? Shall we lock that answer in, Eddie, or would you like to phone a friend?

No, Gordon, I'm telling you I have never met or heard one Muslim who hasn't condemned ISIS and said it's completely un-Islamic. Apart from Man Monis.

You?

How do you know Karnal? Do you always ask Muslims you meet whether they support ISIS?

No, I usually see them on TV.

I did, however, chat to one bearded numptie in a professional capacity. He freely offered his views on ISIS.

He said they're not Muslim.

Are you saying you have only ever met one Muslim in your life?

Or that you have been 100% successful in projecting your views on Islam onto the rest?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Oh, and just in case you are wondering how Gordy knows what religion his ISIS friends are, they said so!

Yes, that's right - those murdering bastards who cut people's heads off and throw people like Sir Booby off the top of tall buildings have admitted it themselves.

It's not like they're dishonourable people who would actually lie, is it now?

Muhammad cut the head off a lot of innocent people. Though they did not have particularly tall buildings back then. Do you think he was lying about being a Muslim?

No, FD, I'm saying I've only ever heard Muslims say ISIS are unIslamic.

Apart from Man Monis, of course.

You like to listen to what Muslims themselves say, no?

Is that a grand total of one Muslim, out of the ones you have met in person? Are you disagreeing with me on the facts, or how to spin them?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:32am:

You like to listen to what Muslims themselves say, no?

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

What's the deeper meaning of this one Gandalf? "I'm a slippery Muslim"?

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 23^rd, 2016 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2016 at 6:22pm:

I've seen Gandalf use the 'mindless collective' and the treacherous Jews argument

Quite right - you saw me using them without me ever mentioning them. Clever eh?

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

If you think these 800 people acted as some kind of mindless collective

Thats exactly what they were.

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Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam.
Reply #53 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:52pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:48pm: