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Reply #30 - Mar 23^rd, 2018 at 9:33pm

Panther wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 1:42pm:

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Hmmmmmm, being that the House of Representatives controls all spending relating to Mueller's Investigation into Russia/Trump Collusion, & Russian Involvement in the US 2016 Presidential Election, will the House, being it finds that there was no Collusion between Trump & Russia, will the House halt all funding for the Mueller Investigation.....which is their right to do at any time they have a majority vote in favor of a termination?

The Senate couldn't start an independent investigation of their own, simply because the House controls all funds they would need.......all spending, of any kind must....by law....must originate & be authorized by the House.

So, will the House terminate the Mueller Investigation?

IMHO, there is a better than 50% probability they will terminate funding for Mueller & his team of investigators, & at the same time the President can have the DOJ instruct the Mueller Investigation to completely limit their scope until the last penny already authorized is spent.......

Being that the House finds no collusion between Russia & President Trump, firing Mueller, or limiting his authority.....effectively castrating his team & their effectiveness & authorization to go down other avenues of investigation, there can be no charges of obstruction levied against the Trump Administration.

No Bucks from the House = No Investigation.

Instructions from Trump, no longer subject to obstruction claims, to limit scope to solely Collusion would mean Mueller wouldn't have further legal authorization to carry on any continuing investigations into any other areas, or expand investigations in any way.

If this happens, Longie will be absolutely apoplectic, to the point they will have to place him back into his padded cell.

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You seem awfully pleased that the republicans are that dishonest and corrupt ?

The republicans investigate themselves and surprise surprise they find nothing wrong. Unbelievable.

And then you swallow it.

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Reply #31 - Mar 23^rd, 2018 at 10:01pm

Also, there has been ZERO suggestion of defunding the investigation, nor any reasonable possibility of doing so. the GOP has already stated that firing Mueller is a red line meaning probable impeachment. They are hardly likely to say that and then defund them. And even if they did, the investigation would simply return to the FBI from whence it came and then continue.

Panther is playing with himself. And worse, the pursuit of truth and justice is clearly of ZERO interest to him. But he supports pedos, so go figure...

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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #32 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:53am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2018 at 3:15pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2018 at 2:23pm:

Has anyone found any credible evidence yet that would prove that President Trump colluded illegally with the Russians?

If so name it, & quote your verifiable sources.

Please don't do what LimpWrist58 does, & say something like LW58 says......like.....just you wait & see, Mr. Mueller will be locking up President Trump any day now. He has mountains of evidence. You just wait, Trump is toast.....He's about to be impeached..........idiot.....moron.......

We all know LeftWing58 has been screaming that stuff since before Trump was elected, & will probably have something like that chiseled into his headstone.....for posterity sake..

How about we wait for the investigations to conclude before firing the invesigators and passing judgement?

We know there have been meetings with Russian officials that the Trump team have lied about, charges have been laid and Trump team members plead guilty.

The question will be one of the level of Trump's involvement, not if collusion exists.

Collusion can exist between the Trump Team, or Trump himself, & some Russians to get dirt on Clinton......what I'm talking about is "Illegal" Collusion. There is only one type of Illegal Collusion in US Law, & that is Corporate Collusion, where a company conspires with another to a 3rd parties detriment.......that's illegal, but making deals to get dirt on a political opponent, in the American System that's not illegal.......matter in fact, shameful as it might seem, it's part of the political process.....it's happening at all levels of politics as we speak, & I'm sure here in Australia as well.

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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #33 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:54am

Panther wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:53am:

There is only one type of Illegal Collusion in US Law, & that is Corporate Collusion, where a company conspires with another to a 3rd parties detriment.......that's illegal...

Wrong as usual, asshole.

"An agreement between two or more people to defraud a person of his or her rights or to obtain something that is prohibited by law.

A third party has nothing to do with it.

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Reply #34 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:19am

Marla wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:54am:

Panther wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:53am:

There is only one type of Illegal Collusion in US Law, & that is Corporate Collusion, where a company conspires with another to a 3rd parties detriment.......that's illegal...

Wrong as usual, asshole.

"An agreement between two or more people to defraud a person of his or her rights or to obtain something that is prohibited by law.

Corporate Collusion is illegal, & the only type of "illegal" collusion on the books.

Getting dirt on one's political opponent isn't "prohibited by law", & unless you instruct someone on how to illegally get the information, & help them get it, it's completely legal.

News organizations do it all the time, & are protected by the First Amendment. Now if they (the news agency) themselves broke into someones office, like the Nixon team supposedly did, to get the information, that breaking in was illegal on it's own, & that was theft.....a whole different kettle of fish.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13797 Colorado Gender:	Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻 Reply #37 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 9:34am Awwww, did I make Trumptard haz a SAD? Did your Bizzaro World logic not support the reality every one else lives in?
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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #38 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 9:56am

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/12/house-panel-russia-investigation-trump...

House ends Russia probe, says no Trump-Kremlin collusion

President Donald Trump immediately claimed vindication in the report, which Democrats blasted as premature and misleading.

By KYLE CHENEY 03/12/2018 07:01 PM EDT Updated 03/12/2018 10:40 PM EDT

House Intelligence Committee Republicans closed their investigation of Russian election interference Monday, declaring they found no evidence that President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign cooperated with the Kremlin, a conclusion Trump quickly celebrated — but which Democrats called premature and even misleading.

Soon after the Republican announcement, Trump triumphantly claimed vindication on Twitter. "THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION," he wrote.

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THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #39 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:07am

You've been shown again and again the information that has been uncovered, the charges that have been laid and the members of the Trump camp who have already plead guilty, yet you still want to push the Trump narrative (or "Fake News" just so you understand) that nothing has been found?

As the dear orange leader would say,

WRONG.

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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #41 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:11am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:07am:

You've been shown again and again the information that has been uncovered, the charges that have been laid and the members of the Trump camp who have already plead guilty, yet you still want to push the Trump narrative (or "Fake News" just so you understand) that nothing has been found?

As the dear orange leader would say,

WRONG.

so are you saying this is fake news ?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/12/house-panel-russia-investigation-trump...

House ends Russia probe, says no Trump-Kremlin collusion

President Donald Trump immediately claimed vindication in the report, which Democrats blasted as premature and misleading.

By KYLE CHENEY 03/12/2018 07:01 PM EDT Updated 03/12/2018 10:40 PM EDT

House Intelligence Committee Republicans closed their investigation of Russian election interference Monday, declaring they found no evidence that President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign cooperated with the Kremlin, a conclusion Trump quickly celebrated — but which Democrats called premature and even misleading.

Soon after the Republican announcement, Trump triumphantly claimed vindication on Twitter. "THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION," he wrote.

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THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

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Re: CASE CLOSED - NO TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION 👍🏻
Reply #42 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:14am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:07am:

You've been shown again and again the information that has been uncovered, the charges that have been laid and the members of the Trump camp who have already plead guilty, yet you still want to push the Trump narrative (or "Fake News" just so you understand) that nothing has been found?

As the dear orange leader would say,

WRONG.

so are you saying this is fake news ?

You claim that no collusion has been found by the house may be true, but that doesn't mean no collusion. It just means the Republicans didn't find any links to their Republican President.

There is a difference, but I suggest that since you're using this to call for Mueller to be fired that you're just as scared as Trump that the real investigation is going to get to the truth, so you want it stopped before it gets to it.

Hence your Fake News.

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Reply #43 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:14am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:07am:

You've been shown again and again the information that has been uncovered, the charges that have been laid and the members of the Trump camp who have already plead guilty, yet you still want to push the Trump narrative (or "Fake News" just so you understand) that nothing has been found?.......

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Reply #44 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:23am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:14am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:07am:

You've been shown again and again the information that has been uncovered, the charges that have been laid and the members of the Trump camp who have already plead guilty, yet you still want to push the Trump narrative (or "Fake News" just so you understand) that nothing has been found?

As the dear orange leader would say,

WRONG.

so are you saying this is fake news ?

You claim that no collusion has been found by the house may be true, but that doesn't mean no collusion. It just means the Republicans didn't find any links to their Republican President.

There is a difference, but I suggest that since you're using this to call for Mueller to be fired that you're just as scared as Trump that the real investigation is going to get to the truth, so you want it stopped before it gets to it.

Hence your Fake News.

People with nothing to hide would not be so angry and so scared of the Mueller investigation. They might be annoyed if they were innocent, but they would not act like this.

Trump is guilty.

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