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Reply #75 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why do you always post that Brian. Many Muslim conflicts have nothing to do with the west at all. You know that. Burma, Kosovo, Bosnia, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Mali, Sudan Bangladesh etc etc etc. And Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria have been basket cases long before western involvement. The big issue in the Muslim world is sectarianism ,  tribalism and land. I grant you that the west made it worse with their stupid involvements though.


Why?  Because it is true, Hammer.  I didn't claim that the West was solely responsible but it has been responsible for the two major causes of refugees - Afghanistan and Iraq.  It has been responsible, as a consequence for the creation of al Q'aeda and IS.   If the West had not decided to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we never would have seen as many Asylum Seekers and Refugees fleeing those two major wars.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #76 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:15am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Brian and Gandalf once tried to convince everyone that there was an appropriate relative amount of criticism of each respective religion, and if we strayed from that it was bigoted.


Did I?  Really?  Care to quote back where I claimed that, FD?  Or are we just reading your usual bullshit?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:16am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Brian and Gandalf once tried to convince everyone that there was an appropriate relative amount of criticism of each respective religion, and if we strayed from that it was bigoted.
I know this, if Islam wasn't a problem I wouldn't talk about it.


Oh, dear, really?  And there I thought you talked about it because you suffered from Islamophobia, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk.   I wonder how I got that impression, I wonder?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #78 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:22am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why do you always post that Brian. Many Muslim conflicts have nothing to do with the west at all. You know that. Burma, Kosovo, Bosnia, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Mali, Sudan Bangladesh etc etc etc. And Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria have been basket cases long before western involvement. The big issue in the Muslim world is sectarianism ,  tribalism and land. I grant you that the west made it worse with their stupid involvements though.


Why?  Because it is true, Hammer.  I didn't claim that the West was solely responsible but it has been responsible for the two major causes of refugees - Afghanistan and Iraq.  It has been responsible, as a consequence for the creation of al Q'aeda and IS.   If the West had not decided to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we never would have seen as many Asylum Seekers and Refugees fleeing those two major wars.    Roll Eyes


Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS? Or do they cease being responsible for their own actions once they stop getting what they want?
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Reply #79 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:22am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why do you always post that Brian. Many Muslim conflicts have nothing to do with the west at all. You know that. Burma, Kosovo, Bosnia, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Mali, Sudan Bangladesh etc etc etc. And Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria have been basket cases long before western involvement. The big issue in the Muslim world is sectarianism ,  tribalism and land. I grant you that the west made it worse with their stupid involvements though.


Why?  Because it is true, Hammer.  I didn't claim that the West was solely responsible but it has been responsible for the two major causes of refugees - Afghanistan and Iraq.  It has been responsible, as a consequence for the creation of al Q'aeda and IS.   If the West had not decided to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we never would have seen as many Asylum Seekers and Refugees fleeing those two major wars.    Roll Eyes


Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS? Or do they cease being responsible for their own actions once they stop getting what they want?


Why did IS arise, Freediver?  The American invasion of Iraq in 2003.   Funny that.  They started out as a branch of al Q'aeda but were told to piss off 'cause they were "too violent" which suggests what about how actually popular they were with the extremists.  The US decision to invade was what created them.  A decision based on lies about Weapons of Massed Distraction.   Lies which you appear quite happy to support.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #80 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 6:15pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:24pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:22am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why do you always post that Brian. Many Muslim conflicts have nothing to do with the west at all. You know that. Burma, Kosovo, Bosnia, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Mali, Sudan Bangladesh etc etc etc. And Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria have been basket cases long before western involvement. The big issue in the Muslim world is sectarianism ,  tribalism and land. I grant you that the west made it worse with their stupid involvements though.


Why?  Because it is true, Hammer.  I didn't claim that the West was solely responsible but it has been responsible for the two major causes of refugees - Afghanistan and Iraq.  It has been responsible, as a consequence for the creation of al Q'aeda and IS.   If the West had not decided to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we never would have seen as many Asylum Seekers and Refugees fleeing those two major wars.    Roll Eyes


Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS? Or do they cease being responsible for their own actions once they stop getting what they want?


Why did IS arise, Freediver?  The American invasion of Iraq in 2003.   Funny that.  They started out as a branch of al Q'aeda but were told to piss off 'cause they were "too violent" which suggests what about how actually popular they were with the extremists.  The US decision to invade was what created them.  A decision based on lies about Weapons of Massed Distraction.   Lies which you appear quite happy to support.   Roll Eyes


Is that a yes or a no Brian?

Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS?
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Reply #81 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 10:50pm
 
FD, do you continue to uphold the use of porkies in the invasion of Iraq?

Feel free to excercise that infamous backbone of yours.
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