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What does the future hold for Mal now ?
Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:48am
 
As predicted the 30th NP passed without any change. How deflating for PW.

But as they enter the home straight can Mal overcome his down points and roar to an astounding victory at the election ?

He certainly will have the grey vote behind him.

Looks like the Catholic Church puppet Abbo will continue to warm the back bench seats.

The media are now going after Shorten, they have spent the past three months building themselves up to the 30th Newspoll for the PM and because that hasn't panned out the numbers they want it's now Shorten's fault.

Because the 30th poll wasn't as bad as they would have liked it has to be Shortens' fault.




Newspoll: Voters see Turnbull as arrogant, remote, uncaring
GEOFF CHAMBERS CANBERRA BUREAU CHIEF The Australian 12:00AM April 9, 2018

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Opposition Leader Bill Shorten trails Malcolm Turnbull on key leadership qualities.

Bill Shorten continues to lag behind Malcolm Turnbull on key leadership qualities with voters declaring he is less “trustworthy, decisive, experienced and likeable”.

But in a danger sign for the Prime Minister, he has continued to lose ground on leadership ­attributes and now trails the ­Opposition Leader on the measures of arrogance, caring for people and being in touch with voters.

Mr Turnbull, who enjoyed a honeymoon period following his leadership coup against Tony ­Abbott, has suffered sharp falls in eight leadership quality measures.

Exclusive Newspoll data prepared for The Australian, based on more than 1500 interviews with voters between Thursday and Sunday, reveals Mr Shorten has effectively drawn level on having a “vision for Australia”, after Mr Turnbull dropped from 66 to 59 per cent in two years.

Voters have also marked down Mr Turnbull in relation to being in touch with voters, slipping from 54 per cent in February 2016 to 42 per cent.

The sharp decline, with Mr Shorten now leading the category by 10 per cent, has influenced a shift in media strategy from Mr Turnbull, with the Prime Minister increasing FM radio and morning television appearances.

Over the weekend, Mr Turnbull — not known as an avid sports fan — attended rugby league, rugby union and AFL matches. He posted Instagram photos to his 92,000 followers showing him inside the sheds with the Sydney Roosters and mingling with ­the Cronulla Sharks fans.

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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull with Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton.

Mr Turnbull maintains a considerable lead over Mr Shorten in the “experienced” stakes, returning to a high of 77 per cent, 14 points ahead of his Labor rival.

In the wake of Mr Shorten moving to abolish cash refunds for dividend imputation credits, a policy described by the government as a “tax grab on retirees”, 59 per cent of Australians described him as arrogant, a 6 per cent increase since last December. Mr Turnbull still has a higher rating in this category at 61 per cent, up from 55 per cent in February 2016.

Mr Shorten, backed by senior Labor colleagues and the trade unions, has spent the past year increasing Labor’s personal attacks on the government, portraying Mr Turnbull as “out of touch”.

“This is an out-of-touch government,” Mr Shorten said at a press conference last month.

Senior Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese, Mr Shorten’s long-time leadership rival, also pushed the “out of touch” message last week.

Unpopular PMs
Longest runs of Negative Net Satisfaction
                                Days Polls      Period                                Lowest result      Last result           Outcome
Paul Keating (ALP)      1504      109      Jan 17-19, 1992 to Feb 28-29, 1996      -57      -18      Won 1993 election, lost 1996 election
Julia Gillard (ALP)      842      52      Mar 4-6, 2011 to Jun 21-23, 2013      -45      -34      Dumped as leader
Malcolm Turnbull (Lib)      753      41      Mar 17-20, 2016 to Apr 5-8, 2018      -30      -25      To be determined
Tony Abbott (Lib)      639      36      Dec 6-8, 2013 to Sep 3-6, 2015      -44      -33      Dumped as leader
John Howard (Lib)      492      38      May 16-18, 1997 to Sep 18-20, 1998      -31      N/A      Returned to positive, won 1998 election two weeks later

“This is a government that is out of touch. Our priority isn’t cutting company taxes. It is investment in education, investment in health, investment in childcare,” Mr Albanese said.

Labor has increased its personal attacks on Mr Turnbull following a horror start to the year for the Prime Minister, headlined by the resignation of former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce and the government’s failure to effectively prosecute its campaign against Mr Shorten’s “retiree tax grab”.

Senior government sources told The Australian Mr Turnbull needed to wrest back the political agenda from Mr Shorten and press harder on key wedge issues for the Opposition Leader, instead of fighting itself on energy.

“The budget is key. We have to sell that hard and get our message out there and not be drowned out by Labor and the unions,” a source said.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll/newspoll-voters-see-t...

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Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:50am
 
How odd.


We like Turnbull but hate LIberal.
Like labor but hate Shorten.


My solution, leadership switch.
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Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:52am
 
Mal's fake news poll appears to be working....What a brilliant strategist Mr Turnbull is by fooling everyone into thinking he is a looser???

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Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:55am
 
What has Malcolm ever done but borrow more money?
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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:10am
 
Oh BH you are a cunning devious devil. Wonder how Polly Waffle is handling it all ?

Now something a bit too heavy for the intellectually well endowed Lefties.



Looks like it’s going to be a two horse race - next election. Arrogant, uncaring and the out of touch Turnbull vs the untrustworthy, indecisive, unlikable and inexperienced Shorten.

We also had a very good taste of what a Liberal government looks like (1996 - 2007 & 2013 - to date) and what Labor government looks like (2007 - 2013). I think the voters have an easy choice!

Certainly not ALP, agreed.

Turnbull needs to get some aggro about him and go after Shorten for all its worth.

MT is too much the professor trying to explain a theory to voters who don't really care, and lacks the brawler instinct to take swings at Shorten. Gosh, with Shorten's record, it can't be that hard. Stand up MT and be a man!

It's all very well Turnbull going to sports matches to seem to be a "man of the people". But who understands his plan for Australia? Maybe Lucy does. I understand Shorten's plan and I don't like it, but Turnbull won't fight.

Malcom Turnbull has lost touch with the everyday, down to earth, hard working, aspirational Australians. He is more concerned with being photographed at the Mardi Gras, with celebrities, with high fliers, with refugees, with the progressive elite and with  those on welfare.

He forgets that for this country to prosper  it needs the ordinary Australians who are prepared to sacrifice, save, work hard, live off their own savings without welfare assistance, look after their  families and are proud of our country's history.I think it would most likely be quite surprising to him to realise that this cohort of Australians has  a viewpoint that is very worthy. Presently this group is being taken for granted by a leader who has no link with the "forgotten people"  in middle class Australia.

Mind you.  neither has Bill Shorten shown that he is connected to this group. His  "anti wealth" attack on people's savings to pay for his left-wing, socialist thought bubbles  are an  insult to those  who mange their money sensibly, pay their taxes  and do not see themselves as " entitled."

No wonder there are so many "round the barbecue" conversations "going on in Australian backyards that have the common  theme of utter disillusionment with Australian politics and the so called  leadership of our country.

Can reporters please please start questioning Bill Shorten. Seriously he is getting away with bull----. Grow up Australia.

Newspolls interview 1500 people. Where do they live, how do they choose them, and why on earth do we think 1500 people get to control election outcomes ? But Polly Waffle believes them.

False opinion polls have caused the demise of western civilisation. They have caused exploitation, mayhem, dissatisfaction, hatred and division throughout Europe, the Americas and Oceania.

The question is: who REALLY controls these polling companies and what are their methods and reasons?

The MSM do it for fun and to create headlines. Selling headlines is fun and challenging, even if it it destroys nations and families and civilisation.

But the main drivers and owners of the MSM and polling companies are those international money changers whose main mission is to milk nations of their labour, wealth and morals through wars and taxes and misery.

These opinion polls were designed to replace Howard with sociopaths like Rudd and Gillard, and to replace Abbott with Turnbull, and to replace narcissist Turnbull with a dictator like Shorten. These events are by design. They are not simply coincidence.

Don't forget that Newspoll is owned by and run for the Australian newspaper and newspaper is the operative word.

So we believe the polls when they are used to oust Abbott, but they're not to be believed when they look bad for Turnbull? Got it.

As usual the poll was carried out in the offices of either the ABC and SBS, or the Canberra Press gallery. The outcomes are predictable. The long term intent is to use the false opinion polls to ultimately install a Marxist dictator. We're nearly there.

No, of course not. It will be the 92,000 dills who look at his selfies on Instagram.

Funny that all the journos and politicians regard Newspoll as the leader in that field, regardless of who owns it.

I reckon they call the same 1500 voters every time they run a poll.



Malcolm Turnbull continues to lead Bill Shorten on key leadership qualities. But the danger signs are clear.

The danger is keeping Malcolm Turnbull in his current position. It's very easy to be a better leader than Bill Shorten because Bill Shorten is not a leader. He wouldn't know leadership if he fell over it. He's a union patsy and a loud hailer for the CFMEU press gang.

If the Commonwealth Government doesn't put construction of power stations right on the agenda very soon they won't have a prayer at the next election. People want a return to cheap, reliable power. They won't get it by voting Labor but they will use the election as a bargaining chip none-the-less.


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Mal the lawyer easily beats the 30th NewsPoll
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:16am
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:20am
 
Turnbull should go after Shorten's leadership and cowardly behavior in hiding his dual citizenship ministers.

Susan Lamb is a dual citizen and sits in parliament drawing an illegal salty.

Same as Katy Gallagher.

Shorten snubs his nose at the law.

Which is what he has always done, he learned that as a Union flog and will continue to ignore our laws so long as he benefits personally.

And Bull Snorten LIED PUBLICLY about the Citizen Shonkies lurking in the union controlled Labor Party. The liar bird.


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But Bull Snorten WAS NOT LYING about robbing the pensioners blind!!!!!!!
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Reply #7 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:31am
 
Just cannot wait for Mal to topple and tony to assume the top job.Where will you hide then liar? They tell me the simpson desert is nice at this time of the year. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:46am
 
But Big Mac it is all a matter of numbers - Mal and Bull Snorten have them but the Catholic Church puppet Abbo doesn't.

But these things can change overnite.

Actually Abbo is the main fright of both Mal AND Bull Snorten.

Abbo would effortlessly tear strips off the old burnt out union brown noser Bull S.
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Reply #9 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 11:01am
 
The people have decided
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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 11:07am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:55am:
What has Malcolm ever done but borrow more money?


and get everyone else to borrow truck loads as well to keep his fake services economy going Sad
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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
Heavens! Polly Waffle the Poll Troll has finally come out of hiding and is now competing with LostSnail in the race to the bottom.

Must be terribly humiliating for PW and just think of the loss of credibility. How will he try to get noticed now ?

But ignoring the misinformed and out of touch and looking at the big picture.

Former greats now back Mal as the Catholic Church puppet Abbo makes them nervous.




‘I hope he remains’: Turnbull gets Peacock’s backing as Joyce agitates
Luke Henriques Gomes Canberra correspondent 11:00pm, Apr 9, 2018 Updated: 10:24pm, Apr 9

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Former Lib leader Andrew Peacock says he hopes Mr Turnbull remains PM. Photo: AAP

Former Liberal leader Andrew Peacock has revealed he hopes Mr Turnbull remains in the top job, even as Barnaby Joyce urges the PM to “do the honorable thing” and step aside if the government’s fortunes do not improve by Christmas.

Reached at his home in Austin, Texas, Mr Peacock, a moderate Lib, said he held Mr Turnbull in high regard.

“Let me just say this, I have great admiration for the PM,” he told The New Daily exclusively.

“I have the highest respect for the PM and I hope he remains the PM.”


It was the first time Mr Peacock had remarked on the performance of the government since 2016.

Mr Peacock served as opposition leader between 1983-85 and 1989-90 during the Hawke years, battling internal leadership tensions with the party’s conservative flank, and its leader, John Howard.

He knows well how bitter and bloody the fights for Lib leadership can be.

In 1989, he famously led a shock coup that rolled Mr Howard, in what the ABC’s 4 Corners described at the time as “one of the most professional political operations seen in the party in some years” that “caught almost every political commentator by surprise”.

In a twist of fate, Mr Howard nominated him as US ambassador in 1997, an appointment that eventually led to him choosing “the wilds of Texas” as his home in retirement.

While he was happy to praise the current leader, Mr Peacock would not be drawn on the conduct of Tony Abbott, who has run a media blitz curiously timed to coincide with Mr Turnbull’s historic 30th Newspoll loss.

“I can’t comment on that,” Mr Peacock told The New Daily.

“I am in the wilds of Texas. All of that stuff doesn’t make page 35 in a 34-page newspaper.”

Back home in Australia, events were just as wild.

On the day the Turnbull government lost its 30th consecutive Newspoll, Mr Joyce broke ranks to demand the PM “do the honourable thing” if the government’s fortunes did not improve by year’s end.

Mr Joyce, who resigned after a bitter feud with his leader over his affair with a staffer, said Mr Turnbull should consider making way if the poor polling continued through until Xmas.


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Mr Joyce has set a Xmas deadline for Mr Turnbull to consider stepping aside if things don’t improve. Photo: ABC

“Nobody wants to go to a federal election which you know you’re going to lose. It’s like playing in the losing grand final – no one wants to play in the losing side,” he told Sky News.

“You have an obligation to all around you that if you honestly believe that is the case, then you must do something about it and do the honourable thing and start grooming an alternative.

“Now we are a long way from that. But if I said ‘Oh well, no one ever considers it, everything is fine’, well, that is also not telling the truth.”


Mr Joyce, a NP MP, does not have a vote to decide the leader of the Liberals.

Meanwhile, senior ministers Mr Morrison and Mr Frydenberg joined Mr Dutton in revealing they all harbored leadership ambitions – while still careful to pledge loyalty to their current boss.

“Now, down the future if an opportunity presented itself, but not while Mr Turnbull’s the PM because he’s the right PM to lead our party, not just to this election but beyond,” Mr Morrison told ABC 7.30.

Foreign Minister Ms Bishop said she did not “envisage” a situation where she might challenge.


It followed Mr Turnbull’s attempt to dismiss and deflect the 30th Newspoll loss. He admitted regret in setting that benchmark for leadership failure, and argued he succeeded in restoring economic leadership and traditional cabinet processes.

And then there was Mr Abbott.

Riding through Victoria’s coal heartland of the Latrobe Valley for the Pollie Pedal, the former PM denied he was preparing a challenge.

“If I’ve got something to say, I don’t ring up a journalist and whisper poison into their ears,” he told 2GB.

“I say it up front, openly, and put my name on it.”


But former Lib leader J. Hewson told The New Daily that Abbott was choosing not to be a team player, saying his pledge of “no sniping” had proved to be a “pretty short-lived commitment”.

Turnbull is the best person to lead the Coalition and his position was “reasonably secure” because of the lack of any “obvious heir apparent”, Mr Hewson said.

“He looks like a leader, he sounds like a leader, he’s just not leading.”

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Reply #13 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 8:58am
 
Mal soldiers on waving aside the soothsayers.

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The Cross Catholic Mal has to bear.




Turnbull dismisses Joyce’s Christmas deadline, Abbott suggests ‘six months’
Luke Henriques Gomes Canberra correspondent 10:30pm, Apr 10, 2018 Updated: 11:37pm, Apr 10

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Malcolm Turnbull was unmoved by Barnaby Joyce's comments. Photo: AAP

Malcolm Turnbull has dismissed Barnaby Joyce’s suggestion he should quit if the government’s fortunes don’t improve by Christmas, as Tony Abbott hints at an even shorter deadline.

Commenting on Mr Joyce’s proposal that Mr Turnbull should “do the honourable” thing if the polls don’t improve, Mr Abbott said on Tuesday that the PM should have a sense of his prospects sooner than before the year’s end.

“You would expect the government, with six months to go before the election, to have a sense that it can win,” Mr Abbott told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

“That is not so much a function of the opinion polls but a function of a government which is giving our people something to fight for and voters something to hope for because we have got to believe in ourselves.”

Confirming the next election will be held in the first half of next year, Mr Turnbull brushed off Mr Joyce’s comments, which were made after he notched up his 30th consecutive Newspoll loss on Tuesday.

“I saw what he said, and he’s free to provide his advice,” he said.

“But I can assure you I will be leading the Liberal Party, and the Liberal-National Coalition to the next election.”


Libs not happy with Joyce
The intervention from Mr Joyce provoked a furious response from some Liberals on Tuesday.

“Of all the people to be commenting on leadership issues at the moment Barnaby is probably last on the list given the circumstances of how he lost his leadership,” WA Liberal senator Linda Reynolds told Sky News.

“But there is no challenge, there will be no challenge, Malcolm Turnbull will be the Prime Minister at the next election, my colleagues have made it very clear and it is certainly not in the self interest.”

Mr Joyce, who does not have a vote for the Liberal leadership, was critical of attempts from Liberal MPs, including the Prime Minister, to pressure Nationals over his own leadership.

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Speaking from the pollie pedal, Tony Abbott hinted at an earlier deadline. Photo: AAP

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, who is considered a top candidate to be next Liberal leader if Mr Turnbull falls, refused to be drawn on her own leadership aspirations.

Ms Bishop dismissed those questions as hypothetical, after Cabinet ministers Peter Dutton, Josh Frydenberg and Scott Morrison had indicated they did one day hope to be PM.

All three men have pledged their support to Mr Turnbull, Ms Bishop told ABC Radio National.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack declined to directly criticise Mr Joyce for his comments, saying the former Nationals leader was “continuing to do a good job”.

“At the end of the day, Malcolm Turnbull is the Prime Minister. Malcolm Turnbull, I hope, will take us to the next election,” he told Sky News.

Asked if she agreed with Mr Joyce’s comments, Nationals deputy leader Bridget McKenzie told ABC Radio: “No, I don’t.”

“I understand that what some people want to comment on the Newspoll and what it may mean for Malcolm Turnbull.

“But I think we need to focus on what the Newspoll numbers are telling us about Bill Shorten.”

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/04/10/malcolm-turnbull-joyce-abbot...
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Reply #14 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:49am
 
A nice retirement on the taxpayer dollar with endless privileges... EVERY function he attends as 'the ex-PM' will be out of YOUR pocket, even party functions... forever.... just like Slim Tony.

Read the wording.... if he's asked to attend as the ex-PM - YOU pay for it, and that goes on for life - so he can sit back and build his millions more and more while you continue to pay him to do so.

Good work if you can get it..... no wonder they all line up for a shot at the ex-PM slot - or even any 'ex-member' - every time one of these turkeys is asked to open a school as the 'ex-Member for Bloggagaria' - YOU pay for it for life.  Every time one of these turkeys is asked to visit The Louvre to unveil a new painting - YOU pay for it.... every time Julia is asked to visit London to open a school of women's leadership as the ex-PM of Australia - YOU pay for it.  Every time one of these turkeys is asked as 'The Minister' to attend a footie game - YOU pay for it.... and it doesn't even impact on their usual 'retirement' privileges such as free travel etc.... since you were 'invited as the ex-whatever'.

Nice gig.....  Shocked
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