Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 21
st, 2021 at 12:52am:
What a load of codswallop
Do you realise who said that? Uri Avnery, a Jewish-Israeli who was an MP and when he left that official position he became a peace activist. He was a highly educated man and he knew history.
Quote:Muslims massacred entire towns of Jews and took their women into captivity, under Mohamed.
As Mr. Avnery states,
For many centuries, the Muslims ruled Greece. Did the Greeks become Muslims? Did anyone even try to Islamize them? On the contrary, Christian Greeks held the highest positions in the Ottoman administration. The Bulgarians, Serbs, Romanians, Hungarians and other European nations lived at one time or another under Ottoman rule and clung to their Christian faith. Nobody compelled them to become Muslims and all of them remained devoutly Christian.
True, the Albanians did convert to Islam, and so did the Bosniaks. But nobody argues that they did this under duress. They adopted Islam in order to become favorites of the government and enjoy the fruits.
In 1099, the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem and massacred its Muslim and Jewish inhabitants indiscriminately, in the name of the gentle Jesus. At that time, 400 years into the occupation of Palestine by the Muslims, Christians were still the majority in the country. Throughout this long period, no effort was made to impose Islam on them. Only after the expulsion of the Crusaders from the country, did the majority of the inhabitants start to adopt the Arabic language and the Muslim faith–and they were the forefathers of most of today’s Palestinians.
THERE IS no evidence whatsoever of any attempt to impose Islam on the Jews. As is well known, under Muslim rule the Jews of Spain enjoyed a bloom the like of which the Jews did not enjoy anywhere else until almost our time. Poets like Yehuda Halevy wrote in Arabic, as did the great Maimonides. In Muslim Spain, Jews were ministers, poets, scientists. In Muslim Toledo, Christian, Jewish and Muslim scholars worked together and translated the ancient Greek philosophical and scientific texts. That was, indeed, the Golden Age. How would this have been possible, had the Prophet decreed the "spreading of the faith by the sword"?'
Quote:There was no peace before Zionism
Yes there was. The Ottoman rulers allowed the Jewish orthodoxy in Jerusalem to practice their religion unhindered.
Quote:the Jews owned Zion until the Temple was destroyed
You seem to be confusing Zionism, the 'political' movement which started in the late 19th century, with Zion, as in Mount of Zion, and as used in the OT to denote Jerusalem as well as the Land of Israel as a whole. The two are related of course but not the same.
Quote:and they were driven out by the Romans.... there were few Arabs there - and at that time NO Muslims.
Of course there were no Muslims in Roman Times. Islam didn't come into existence until several centuries later.
Quote:Now Arabs living in Israel are considered Israelis....
In name only. They are widely discriminated against in all walks of life.
Quote:Between 1896 and 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews resettled from Europe to what was then British-controlled Palestine, including large numbers forced out of Europe during the Holocaust.
Many Arabs saw the influx of Jews as a European colonial movement, and the two peoples fought bitterly. The British couldn’t control the violence, and in 1947 the United Nations voted to split the land into two countries. Almost all of the roughly 650,000 Jews went to the blue territory in the map to the right, and a majority of the Arab population (roughly twice the size of the Jewish community) went to the orange.
And your point is?
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