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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #15 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 9:58pm

I think there's a bit of embellishing here. The indigenous peoples were not a complex civilisation. They didn't have writing; they didn't have large urban settlements; no surplus of agriculture; and they didn't have the capital and coercive institutions we see in other civilisations.

This does not mean however that they were backward. The indigenous peoples were able to live in the same way for more than 40 thousand years continuously. This is an achievement itself: no empire has ever lasted even a fraction of that time. They indigenous peoples also left the environment untouched and pristine.

If we recognise the uniqueness of indigenous culture, rather than trying to retell history in order to satisfy the progressives, then we can fully more appreciate indigenous culture for what it is.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #17 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:25pm

Auggie wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 9:58pm:

I think there's a bit of embellishing here. The indigenous peoples were not a complex civilisation. They didn't have writing; they didn't have large urban settlements; no surplus of agriculture; and they didn't have the capital and coercive institutions we see in other civilisations.

This does not mean however that they were backward. The indigenous peoples were able to live in the same way for more than 40 thousand years continuously. This is an achievement itself: no empire has ever lasted even a fraction of that time. They indigenous peoples also left the environment untouched and pristine.

If we recognise the uniqueness of indigenous culture, rather than trying to retell history in order to satisfy the progressives, then we can fully more appreciate indigenous culture for what it is.

They were not what one would classify as a civilisation or empire now, were they? It's like saying people have "survived" in Africa for 500k years, that does not mean there was any civilisation or empire involved.

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Reply #18 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:28pm

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

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This does not mean however that they were backward. The indigenous peoples were able to live in the same way for more than 40 thousand years continuously. This is an achievement itself

And you accuse Pascoe of embellishing.

So, when will mothra and JS be unbanned or at least you summon up the manhood to tell them the reason for the ban?

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #19 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:30pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

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This does not mean however that they were backward. The indigenous peoples were able to live in the same way for more than 40 thousand years continuously. This is an achievement itself

And you accuse Pascoe of embellishing.

So, when will mothra and JS be unbanned or at least you summon up the manhood to tell them the reason for the ban?

What sound does a jellyfish make?

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Reply #20 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

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This does not mean however that they were backward. The indigenous peoples were able to live in the same way for more than 40 thousand years continuously. This is an achievement itself

And you accuse Pascoe of embellishing.

So, when will mothra and JS be unbanned or at least you summon up the manhood to tell them the reason for the ban?

Oh, piss off.

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Reply #21 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

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Reply #22 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:51pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

I can't believe how full of shi'ite you are Jasin, you know they are all the same people if you leave out the Phoenicians. Do you have a random thought generator or something?

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Reply #23 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:53pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

If we are including the Croats in these eastern eruos... Sure, they'll interbreed then kill themselves for what they have done to themselves in the past.

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Reply #24 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:56pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

I can't believe how full of shi'ite you are Jasin, you know they are all the same people if you leave out the Phoenicians. Do you have a random thought generator or something?

Spanish, Portuguese, French are 'Grey' Latin peoples.
German, Dutch are 'Red' Celtic peoples (because 'Green' is the colour of South Americans and 'olive' skinned people Grin

)

Face it - Celtics/Western Euros belong in North America ...where they ran away to like cowards from the problems of Europe. Hell, even Americans are trying to run away to Mars and the problems of Earth (typical 'Western' psyche Roll Eyes

)

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #25 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:00pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

I can't believe how full of shi'ite you are Jasin, you know they are all the same people if you leave out the Phoenicians. Do you have a random thought generator or something?

Spanish, Portuguese, French are 'Grey' Latin peoples.
German, Dutch are 'Red' Celtic peoples (because 'Green' is the colour of South Americans and 'olive' skinned people Grin

)

Face it - Celtics/Western Euros belong in North America ...where they ran away to like cowards from the problems of Europe. Hell, even Americans are trying to run away to Mars and the problems of Earth (typical 'Western' psyche Roll Eyes

)

You do know the Celts ruled from Ireland to Turkey at one stage? The Spanish were Celts, the French, the Swiss, the Hungarians, the Poles. Celtic is/was not a race but a culture. In fact Celtic culture first blossomed in Switzerland and Austria.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #26 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:02pm

British/Irish Isles = 'unite' (in Western Europe)

Yugoslavic = 'separate' (in Eastern Europe) into Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, etc.

...hence why Australia will fracture into 'Independent Nations', much like how Yugoslavia did.

Face it Celtic boy.
Your people have no idea about this part of the World.
Once Russia capitulates. Australia will become the NEW SLAVIC (Slave/Convict - 'same myth') future!

...because Europe is now 2/3rds 'Blue' (Scandi-navian) Brunette in population and will be absorbed by the Northern Europeans.
...because the 'Grey' Latin Southern Europeans are moving out to the Oceanic Islands from New Zealand to Central America/Caribbean (such is the Media Wink

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So there you go Setanta: Anglo-Saxons/Celts, etc ...never had a clue about this part of the world, let alone Aboriginals Cheesy

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Reply #27 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:03pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

I can't believe how full of shi'ite you are Jasin, you know they are all the same people if you leave out the Phoenicians. Do you have a random thought generator or something?

Spanish, Portuguese, French are 'Grey' Latin peoples.
German, Dutch are 'Red' Celtic peoples (because 'Green' is the colour of South Americans and 'olive' skinned people Grin

)

Face it - Celtics/Western Euros belong in North America ...where they ran away to like cowards from the problems of Europe. Hell, even Americans are trying to run away to Mars and the problems of Earth (typical 'Western' psyche Roll Eyes

)

You do know the Celts ruled from Ireland to Turkey at one stage? The Spanish were Celts, the French, the Swiss, the Hungarians, the Poles. Celtic is/was not a race but a culture. In fact Celtic culture first blossomed in Switzerland.

WOT A LOAD OF CUM CRAP!!!

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #28 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:05pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:03pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 11:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Well considering that 'Western' (Political) culture only knows about 'Asian' culture (can't even say the racial 'yellow') and 'Black' race (can't even say the cultural 'Bantu').

It knows sweet FA about Black 'culture' (let alone Yellow 'race').

So little wonder that the Westerners (Anglos/Irish/Scottish/Welsh) had absolutely no idea about this part of the world (The Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Malaysian, Chinese ...possibly the Germans, French and even more so - the Phoenicians, knew about it before hand).

Even when they landed, they couldn't fathom much about the way of life here and depended heavily on the local Eora Aboriginals (which is why things were so 'harmonious' for awhile Roll Eyes

) - TO SURVIVE as a ramshackle Penal Colony.

Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were taught in schools as the men who 'found' the way across the Great Dividing Range ...but in truth the Dharruk Aboriginals 'showed' them the way.
Pure Propaganda crap!

If it wasn't for the Aboriginals - the 'Western' efforts here would have just defaulted.
Later, the Westerners stabbed the aboriginals in the back and the massacres began.
Much like HG-Wells: War of the Worlds. Grin

...but we know that 'Western' (Political) culture here is capitulating via corruption, sexual sterility and an unprogressive future of any originality.

Thankfully the 'Eastern' (Slavic) Europeans are making a far better effort here in Australia (which will be renamed with a more 'slavic' version

)

I can't believe how full of shi'ite you are Jasin, you know they are all the same people if you leave out the Phoenicians. Do you have a random thought generator or something?

Spanish, Portuguese, French are 'Grey' Latin peoples.
German, Dutch are 'Red' Celtic peoples (because 'Green' is the colour of South Americans and 'olive' skinned people Grin

)

Face it - Celtics/Western Euros belong in North America ...where they ran away to like cowards from the problems of Europe. Hell, even Americans are trying to run away to Mars and the problems of Earth (typical 'Western' psyche Roll Eyes

)

You do know the Celts ruled from Ireland to Turkey at one stage? The Spanish were Celts, the French, the Swiss, the Hungarians, the Poles. Celtic is/was not a race but a culture. In fact Celtic culture first blossomed in Switzerland.

WOT A LOAD OF CUM CRAP!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallstatt
Hallstatt is known for its production of salt, dating back to prehistoric times, and gave its name to the Hallstatt culture, a culture often linked to Celtic and Proto-Celtic people of the Early Iron Age Europe, c.800–450 BC. Some of the earliest archaeological evidence for the Celts was found in Hallstatt.

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