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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Correct version of Australia’s history Reply #210 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:36pm Brian do you have any idea what he means by houses and sheds? Are you willing to defend his use of the term farming? Or is making sense not really necessary when you are rewriting history? Did you put any thought at all into this rubbish before jumping on the bandwagon?
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #211 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

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Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #212 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:46pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:26pm:

Historically, Brian - that happened with all kinds of people who lived on the 'boss' property and worked for the boss, and who received a few paltry goods and a place to live in exchange for their work and servitude.

This was particularly prevalent in WA, that notorious non-convict colony which spawns paedos and serial killers and such with gay abandon - due to its rather haughty 'English' approach to the "master/servant relationship".

It wasn't only the position of Black Fellahs... and while I sympathise with your stance, it does no good to live in the past, but it does do good to work for a better future for all.

Let the dead bury the dead - my concern is the living.....

WA was a convict colony, just as were the NT (originally), Queensland, NSW, Victoria and Tasmania. Only South Australia was a free colony, settled entirely by free settlers, Graps.

Your concern for the living is admirable. Surely, however you must question how they reached the condition they presently are in? If the original Colonists had not ignore their instructions from London to treat them kindly and to settle a Treaty with the Indigenous Australians, I somehow think things would have turned out somewhat differently. Instead, they massacred them, stole their land, their children, destroyed their culture and society and in the case of the Stock Industry, effectively turned them into slaves. As long as white society denies it's own history, treating the symptoms won't cure the problem, Graps. Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #213 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #214 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:52pm

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:36pm:

Brian do you have any idea what he means by houses and sheds?

Are you willing to defend his use of the term farming? Or is making sense not really necessary when you are rewriting history?

Did you put any thought at all into this rubbish before jumping on the bandwagon?

As far as I am aware, FD, no history has been rewritten. I am confining my comments to the article I linked to, which spoke about what the original Colonists discovered. What are you referring to? Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #215 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

Look it up Brian. Black people and white people have different skull shapes. It's just a fact. Tell me why black people are struggling all around the world? And don't say the whiteman please. That's absolute rubbish.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #216 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 1:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

The whole scientific field of forensic pathology wouldnt exist if there were no racial differences you nong.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #217 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:21pm

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 1:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

The whole scientific field of forensic pathology wouldnt exist if there were no racial differences you nong.

There are though, no genetic differences. Forensic Pathology studies the physical differences which evolution has created. Genetics studies the DNA and RNA which is what makes us a species. Effectively there are no Genetic differences between the so-called "races". Indeed, there are more differences within each supposed "racial" group than there are between them. It is why Humanity can interbreed, despite being born thousands of kilometres apart on separate continents. We are all descended from Africans, we all started our evolutionary journey in the Rift Valley of Africa. We all once had black skin, thick lips, differently shaped skulls, etc. We all ran from the Lion, the Leopard, the Cheetah and hunted the Vildebeest and Zebra. Time you faced the scientific reality that Genetics has created for us.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #218 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

Look it up Brian. Black people and white people have different skull shapes. It's just a fact. Tell me why black people are struggling all around the world? And don't say the whiteman please. That's absolute rubbish.

Circumstances, Hammer. Genetically there is no difference between white and black people. Put a white person in the same circumstances many black people are in, you will get similar results. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #219 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 5:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

Look it up Brian. Black people and white people have different skull shapes. It's just a fact. Tell me why black people are struggling all around the world? And don't say the whiteman please. That's absolute rubbish.

Circumstances, Hammer. Genetically there is no difference between white and black people. Put a white person in the same circumstances many black people are in, you will get similar results. Roll Eyes

Rubbish. White people build things. Black people tear things down.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #220 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 5:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.

New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.

Really? Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all. There is effectively only one "race", the human one. "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics. Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical. It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc. There are no "different human races and subspecies". Roll Eyes

Like I said a million times , there are slight variations between peoples due to geographic evolution. Black people and white people have different skull shapes and different overall IQ.

No, they don't, Hammer. Get rid of your copy of The Bell Curve, it is racist white supremacist bullshit. Evolution has created different skin colours, eye folds, etc. but underneath, we are all identical physically. Our brains are all structured the same, we all have same organs, skeleton, etc. The harping of racists on the external differences simply shows they have no desire to see the similarities. Roll Eyes

Look it up Brian. Black people and white people have different skull shapes. It's just a fact. Tell me why black people are struggling all around the world? And don't say the whiteman please. That's absolute rubbish.

Circumstances, Hammer. Genetically there is no difference between white and black people. Put a white person in the same circumstances many black people are in, you will get similar results. Roll Eyes

Rubbish. White people build things. Black people tear things down.

And burn them.

But it's not logical to say we are genetically the same.
A small difference is quite a difference
For example, monkeys and humans share hugely similar DNA

Perhaps as different as whites and blacks.

Perhaps we have been looking for the missing link in the wrong place
It might just be under our noses in the black race😲😲😲😲😲

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #221 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 6:04pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 5:57pm: