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Brian Ross

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #285 - Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:34pm

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:36pm:

Brian do you have any idea what he means by houses and sheds?

Are you willing to defend his use of the term farming? Or is making sense not really necessary when you are rewriting history?

Did you put any thought at all into this rubbish before jumping on the bandwagon?

As far as I am aware, FD, no history has been rewritten. I am confining my comments to the article I linked to, which spoke about what the original Colonists discovered. What are you referring to? Roll Eyes

Comments in the article about sheds and houses, and that burning grass to attract wild kangaroos is a type of farming.

Are you just defending this because you want it to be true?

Are you denying that it isn't true, FD? Roll Eyes

It is what the article says. Sounds like BS to me. Even you are backing away from supporting it.

Do you consider setting fire to the grass to help hunt roos to be a type of farming?

I consider the planting of crops which were later harvested to be farming, FD. I consider the clearing of land through fire-stick methods to be part of that. Seems to work in many other places around the world - do you dispute the use there? I am "backing away" from nothing. Roll Eyes

So the Aborigines were farmers because they were using fire in preparation for Europeans to come and plant crops?

Do you have any clue at all what you are talking about?

Do you? Really? Or are you just bullshiting for the usual sake, FD? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #286 - Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 8:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 9:46pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 2:48pm:

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They were employed by whitemen until they "reliably" went on walkabout........"Instrumental" my arse.......they made a fvvken stick, that's all they did.....oh, and made some bloody dots and called it art......

'Funny' watching these idiots trying to put schit on a people and culture which had survived for thousands of years before whitey farked it all for them.

Complete BS Aussie as usual ... what's being put shyte on is fabricated nonsense being espoused by the likes of Brian who believe that Aboriginals were farmers, graziers, had established agriculture & urban infrastructure & Universities etc etc.

All pre-colonisation ..... then Brian wants to change tacks & claim Aboriginals knew all about cattle, horses & sheep husbandry to advise early settlers .... i.e . advising them "how to marshal their stock".

Not that anyone marshals stock ... they muster & round up ... but they don't marshall.

Best you stick to the law, cab driving & Clivey baby Palmer. Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Erecting a strawman argument, Gnads? How unusual for you, hey? Care to quote back to us where I claimed those things? I suspect you won't because you won't find any such bullshit. Tsk, tsk, how typical for a racist... Roll Eyes

The whole OP was about Aboriginals pre-colonisation & shortly thereafter.

And you bought in a bs statement about aboriginals & advising settlers on livestock issues. "How to marshal their stock".

This had absolutely no relevance to the discussion about the claims being made by Bruce Pascoe & Trevor Abrahams.

You can't even walk a straight line sober.

Where did I use the word "advising", Gnads?

I note you've again failed to answer my point, you have not supplied a quote of my words which back your claims. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk.

You went further than advise.

Brian- Without Black stockmen there wouldn't be a white stock industry

You have yet to prove otherwise, Hammer. Without a ready and willing workforce to exploit, the white controlled stock industry would not have flourished. QED. Roll Eyes

I live in Western Sydney about 40kms from the CBD and farmers still run cattle near my home. Sydney aborigines were nearly wiped out yet there's been a cattle industry on the outskirts of Sydney for over 200 years. Did they get help Brian? Maybe they got help out in the arid areas but not all Australian grazing land is like that. Not all grazing land needed aborigines to show them water because their cattle property fronted a river a creek. Your comments was ill informed and general.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #287 - Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm: