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Reply #315 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 3:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
LOL
bwian is just not worth listening to.
Wave Hill walk out eh Bwian...  when was that again?

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Protesting for equal wages Aboriginal stockmen walked off Wave Hill pastoral station in the Northern Territory in
1966
.


Oh dear, tsk, tsk tsk bwian... caught out being disingenuous yet again. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Where have I been "disingenious"?  I assumed everybody knew when the Wave Hill Station walkout occurred.  Are you suggesting that some people are ignorant of Australian history, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk.  I suppose from the numerous examples here made by the Racists you'd be right.

Are you missing the good old days, Geoff, when you could exploit Black Australians like the Vesteys did?

Studying Australian history, it is littered with examples of people like you, Geoff.  You claim to have the best interests of Australians at heart but when one examines exactly what you're proposing your views are found to feature Racism, Xenophobia, Islamophobia, Sexism and of course just outright hatred of your fellow Australians and anybody who seeks to become an Australian at their core.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You keep shifting the OP & the notions proposed by the likes of Pascoe & Abrahams further & further toward present day.

Being a twisty shyte seems to be your forte.


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Reply #316 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #317 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:00pm:
Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?


Agnes ... using fire to flush out game making it easier to see them isn't farming.

It's a hunting technique.

That the grass reshoots green & attracts roos for a while until it's too high again ... isn't farming either.

Therein the suggestion that it is ...drawing a long bow ... in fact in this case - stupid.
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Reply #318 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 4:07pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still unable to use the quote function, Geoff.  Get back to me once you've worked it out.    Roll Eyes


More pedantics Roll Eyes

It was easy as to understand & didn't require quotes.
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #319 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:54pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 3:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
LOL
bwian is just not worth listening to.
Wave Hill walk out eh Bwian...  when was that again?

Quote:
Protesting for equal wages Aboriginal stockmen walked off Wave Hill pastoral station in the Northern Territory in
1966
.


Oh dear, tsk, tsk tsk bwian... caught out being disingenuous yet again. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Where have I been "disingenious"?  I assumed everybody knew when the Wave Hill Station walkout occurred.  Are you suggesting that some people are ignorant of Australian history, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk.  I suppose from the numerous examples here made by the Racists you'd be right.

Are you missing the good old days, Geoff, when you could exploit Black Australians like the Vesteys did?

Studying Australian history, it is littered with examples of people like you, Geoff.  You claim to have the best interests of Australians at heart but when one examines exactly what you're proposing your views are found to feature Racism, Xenophobia, Islamophobia, Sexism and of course just outright hatred of your fellow Australians and anybody who seeks to become an Australian at their core.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You keep shifting the OP & the notions proposed by the likes of Pascoe & Abrahams further & further toward present day.


Being a twisty shyte seems to be your forte.



yes lying has always been bwian's forte.
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #320 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 4:07pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still unable to use the quote function, Geoff.  Get back to me once you've worked it out.    Roll Eyes


More pedantics Roll Eyes

It was easy as to understand & didn't require quotes.

thank you Wink
Bwian's favourite tactic....  make excuses, blame the other person and runaway
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Reply #321 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:57pm
 
why is it so stupid FD- the idigenous pp used fire to tame and control everything from bushfires to their food supplies-but the racism is so thick and stupid it is blinding most of you - if we used indigenous rangers to do the one thing they know best- how to control the environment without destroying it- billions of dollars might be saved every year- you all need to go educate yourselves on this topic- it has been writen in academic texts for at least the last 20 years that indigenous ppls used agricuture a long time ago- but they wont release anything ppositive to the eduction system to teach in schools because that woud not serve the 200  yr old  narrative of the noble ( but very dumb) savage- cods gets it and you dont have to read far to find out a few facts- so why dont any of you go read- its there for even you to discover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming#References
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Reply #322 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
I agree that the Indigenous Peoples of Australia were a non-complex civilisation; but this doesn't mean that they were inferior.

They had a unique civilisation; they deserve respect, recognition and compassion from people.

End of story.


Yes fine sentiments.... & a unique culture they did have ....

Yet that doesn't need the addition of fanciful BS to paint a picture that is fictional.
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Reply #323 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:00pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
why is it so stupid FD- the idigenous pp used fire to tame and control everything from bushfires to their food supplies-but the racism is so thick and stupid it is blinding most of you - if we used indigenous rangers to do the one thing they know best- how to control the environment without destroying it- billions of dollars might be saved every year- you all need to go educate yourselves on this topic- it has been writen in academic texts for at least the last 20 years that indigenous ppls used agriculture a long time ago- but they wont release anything positive to the eduction system to teach in schools because that would not serve the 200  yr old  narrative of the noble ( but very dumb) savage- cods gets it and you dont have to read far to find out a few facts- so why dont any of you go read- its there for even you to discover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming#References

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #324 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:03pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
I agree that the Indigenous Peoples of Australia were a non-complex civilisation; but this doesn't mean that they were inferior.

They had a unique civilisation; they deserve respect, recognition and compassion from people.

End of story.

Depends what you mean by inferior.
A VW Bug is a car but could be considered inferior to a Bugatti Veyron.
A Spear is a handy weapon, bow and arrow handier, Rifle even handier, some would rightly consider a Spear inferior to a Rifle.
Plowing a field with a stick and plowing a field with a plowshare pulled by a horse, which one do you consider inferior?
The list goes on and on...  of course things are superior and inferior...  only fools think they are not. Roll Eyes


I'm talking about in terms of human decency and dignity. We made a mistake by thinking that they were 'inherently' inferior.

This is what I'm talking about

"WE" really? 
Another time and place for me Sunshine...  I wasn't involved.  I live in the now.
Unless you are a racist you don't look at people of different races as being inferior or superior.  I be a non-racist.
Got nothing to do with decency or dignity.
What do you mean by "inherently inferior"?  Are you racist? Roll Eyes
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Reply #325 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
you have to undertsand monkra is posting on behalf of his master- he doesnt really undertstand whta he posts- parroting its called
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Reply #326 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
why is it so stupid FD- the idigenous pp used fire to tame and control everything from bushfires to their food supplies-but the racism is so thick and stupid it is blinding most of you - if we used indigenous rangers to do the one thing they know best- how to control the environment without destroying it- billions of dollars might be saved every year- you all need to go educate yourselves on this topic- it has been writen in academic texts for at least the last 20 years that indigenous ppls used agricuture a long time ago- but they wont release anything ppositive to the eduction system to teach in schools because that woud not serve the 200  yr old  narrative of the noble ( but very dumb) savage- cods gets it and you dont have to read far to find out a few facts- so why dont any of you go read- its there for even you to discover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming#References


Trotting out the racism card doesn't cut it Agnes ... it's done to death.

The Aboriginals pre-colonial culture was so that they could exist in a harsh land.

How they did it was a credit to them but it wasn't agriculture ... no matter what picture so called  feel good academics painted.

And if you go to many remote communities you will see just how well they look after their environment today.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #327 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:10pm
 
you dont get it either- well well-a dying breed thankfully
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Reply #328 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
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Reply #329 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:18pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 8:10pm:
you dont get it either- well well-a dying breed thankfully


Not surprising, really, considering that they have invested so much time and effort in trying to refute the documentary record.    Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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