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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #330 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:20pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still unable to use the quote function, Geoff. Get back to me once you've worked it out. Roll Eyes

More pedantics Roll Eyes

It was easy as to understand & didn't require quotes.

The quote function exists for a purpose. It makes it easier to read what is being said. Geoff deliberately refuses to use it. He needs to learn to conform to the accepted norm of debate. Roll Eyes

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #331 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:10pm:

you dont get it either- well well-a dying breed thankfully

Not surprising, really, considering that they have invested so much time and effort in trying to refute the documentary record. Roll Eyes

what are they so scared of historical fact I wonder

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #332 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:26pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:51pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Agnes ... using fire to flush out game making it easier to see them isn't farming.

It's a hunting technique.

That the grass reshoots green & attracts roos for a while until it's too high again ... isn't farming either.

Therein the suggestion that it is ...drawing a long bow ... in fact in this case - stupid.

you dont understand you need to read- cant you read gnads is that the problem- Flushing out game is as simplistic as you understand- i will post an excerpt and I hope you can read it

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #333 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm

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Fire-stick farming was the practice of Indigenous Australians who regularly used fire to burn vegetation to facilitate hunting and to change the composition of plant and animal species in an area. Fire-stick farming had the long-term effect of turning dry forest into savannah, increasing the population of nonspecific grass-eating species like the kangaroo. One theory of the extinction of Australian megafauna implicates the ecological disturbance caused by fire-stick farming.[1]

In the resultant sclerophyll forests, fire-stick farming maintained an open canopy and allowed germination of understory plants necessary for increasing the carrying capacity of the local environment for browsing and grazing marsupials.

Aboriginal people may have been able to aim the burning of the scrub to avoid growing areas. There may have been a ritual taboo against burning certain areas of jungle.[2]

This type of farming directly increased the food supply for Aboriginal people by promoting the growth of bush potatoes and other edible ground-level plants.[3]

The term fire-stick farming was coined by Australian archaeologist Rhys Jones in 1969

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This is from the wiki link Gnads- written by white academics- you might want to go and read the whole article and others- there are many out there thweeitie Kiss

Dont thank agnes she just wants you stupids to think-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming#References

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #334 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #335 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:39pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

you are most ignorant FD- go to the library with Gnads and dont forget your goggles SMH- very dissapointed with that ridiculous comment

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #336 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:40pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

Is herding sheep ~ farming, Effendi?

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #337 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:43pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:39pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

you are most ignorant FD- go to the library with Gnads and dont forget your goggles SMH- very dissapointed with that ridiculous comment

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #338 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

Is herding sheep ~ farming, Effendi?

Do you have a point Aussie? Or is this just another stupid question session?

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #340 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:56pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Brian are you afraid to even offer an opinion on the author's claim that burning grass to hunt roos is a type of farming? Why would you express support for something so stupid?

Why is it stupid FD?

Hunting kangaroos is not farming.

Is herding sheep ~ farming, Effendi?

Do you have a point Aussie? Or is this just another stupid question session?

Well, your implication is that kangaroo farming doesn't indicate sophistication in a civilisation, but neither does sheep herding? So, do you have any other reasons to support your point?

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #341 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:06pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm:

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Fire-stick farming was the practice of Indigenous Australians who regularly used fire to burn vegetation to facilitate hunting and to change the composition of plant and animal species in an area. Fire-stick farming had the long-term effect of turning dry forest into savannah, increasing the population of nonspecific grass-eating species like the kangaroo. One theory of the extinction of Australian megafauna implicates the ecological disturbance caused by fire-stick farming.[1]

In the resultant sclerophyll forests, fire-stick farming maintained an open canopy and allowed germination of understory plants necessary for increasing the carrying capacity of the local environment for browsing and grazing marsupials.

Aboriginal people may have been able to aim the burning of the scrub to avoid growing areas. There may have been a ritual taboo against burning certain areas of jungle.[2]

This type of farming directly increased the food supply for Aboriginal people by promoting the growth of bush potatoes and other edible ground-level plants.[3]

The term fire-stick farming was coined by Australian archaeologist Rhys Jones in 1969

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This is from the wiki link Gnads- written by white academics- you might want to go and read the whole article and others- there are many out there thweeitie Kiss

Dont thank agnes she just wants you stupids to think-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming#References

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The highlighted would indicate a very sophistcated level of farming ( which is not exclusive to raising sheep btw) read that and let it sink in- regular farming is playschool compared to that -

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #342 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

Is herding sheep ~ farming, Effendi?

There's a fine line but I'm not sure where to draw it. Can you herd kangaroos?
Neolithic Brits burnt the reeds beside the lakes they lived around to induce deer and other wildlife to come and browse there so they could "hunt" them more easily. It that farming or enhanced hunting?

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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #343 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:11pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

Is herding sheep ~ farming, Effendi?

There's a fine line but I'm not sure where to draw it. Can you herd kangaroos?
Neolithic Brits burnt the reeds beside the lakes they lived around to induce deer and other wildlife to come and browse there so they could "hunt" them more easily. It that farming or enhanced hunting?

yes with FIRE- dogs 4whl drives etc- that doesnt take away from anything- there is no fine line

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40926	Re: Correct version of Australia’s history Reply #344 - Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:12pm Gnads wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 7:46pm: You keep shifting the OP & the notions proposed by the likes of Pascoe & Abrahams further & further toward present day. Being a twisty shyte seems to be your forte. I have "shifted" nothing, Gnads. Your effort at bullying won't work. Tsk, tsk.
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