Agnes wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:11pm:


You have to be a bit more explicit in what you mean Agnes.

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:18pm:


farming
ˈfɑːmɪŋ/
noun
noun: farming
the activity or business of growing crops and raising livestock.
"land was enclosed for arable farming"
synonyms:      agriculture, cultivation, tilling, tillage, husbandry, land management, farm management; More
antonyms:      industry

hunting
ˈhʌntɪŋ/
noun
1.
the activity of hunting wild animals or game.
"they talked about going hunting"
synonyms:      blood sports, field sports, stalking, trapping, coursing, fox hunting, the chase; More

Setanta wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:20pm:


Be careful not to miss any SUBTLE definitions within those words, Set.

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:21pm:

yes but using methods most modern day farmers dont or wont recognise- but if they had we wouldnt have the destroyed farming lands we have now and soil destroyed by chemicals- our streams and water ways are fked by the negligent modern farmer who was to arrogant to think he learn anything from a stupid abo

Aussie wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:21pm:


No, they burnt the vegetation to encourage new growth that would bring animals to graze on it. They did not her and even today neither thay or we can herd kangaroos.

Making it so an animal is easier to hunt by providing it food and making it easier to see is still hunting, not herding or animal husbandry. We have words that define things, let's use them as they are intended. I don't really care about what seems to me like a little battle between those you consider racists and those you don't, those on your side and those not. I don't give a rat's arse. We have words that define things, lets stick with what we can all agree on, that's why we define what words mean.

Setanta wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 9:30pm:


More cute stuff.  Your point is wasted on me and better addressed to FD who seems to want to hang his hat on words.

From different spectrums, aquaculture, plaiting mussels onto ropes, foraging, picking mussels off rocks. 

Beekeeping, removing honey from hives, concentrating hives, constructing hives.  Foraging, finding a hive and knocking it off the branch or getting it from an existing hollow found naturally.

Animal husbandry or farming, looking after and caring for animals, breeding to improve the desirable characterisitics. Hunting, not looking after or caring for them, no input into breeding.

It probably all hinges on degrees of human input, the more input, the more like farming and controlling the environment and protecting and improving your food resources.

Lesser input, less like farming, not as controlling the environment, less or no protection or improving your food resources.

Draw the lines where you like.  This whole argument is stupid.

Aboriginal society and methods are not as advanced as some are trying to project, but nor are aboriginals stupid or primitive. They are a product of the environment.

And forget this noble savage bit that Brian likes to paint as an apologism for his self loathing luvvie guilt tripping for sharing white conquerer guilt.