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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #180 - Aug 29^th, 2018 at 9:51am

Jasin wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 7:53pm:

Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel.

Only one problem... Wink

They're all OLD

No problem at all just replying to Klownal.
did you miss his pictures eh.
BTW not all mine are old at all.
Mine show, old and new... nothing has changed... mine show Klownal is a disingenuous TROLL.
Wassup, you not quite up to date either? Roll Eyes

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95293 Gender:	Re: Is culture a dirty word. Reply #182 - Aug 29^th, 2018 at 10:03am Grendel wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 9:54am: Pity I'm not racist like YOU eh Klownal.... You have nothing but stupidity to offer here. No no, Grendel, some of my best friends are One Nation voters.
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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #183 - Aug 29^th, 2018 at 12:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws...

Try again.

I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america.

Spot

just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot?
BTW based or modelled... but not on American ls...
Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago.

to base something on is to use that thing in its entirety and tweak it. to model on something is to use its format but not its data.

Our society isnt based on american. it was prolly based on british but we have evolved more towards americanism. Laws though are still pretty much what they were when drafted just lots and lots added to them. There are a lot of laws still on the books about herding your sheep in george st etc that they just dont want to remove.

Spot

You're right Spot of Borg.
We were a British'ised Society.

The 'servitude' of us was strong and proud, that we would willingly honour that role for Britain (a thanks for giving us a nice new home).
But an element of Australian culture grew (possibly from Victoria) - that 'rebelled' and threw up the cliché 'undisciplined' defiance against British culture.

...eventually, this 'rebellious' nature ironically, 'grovelled' to all things American and was the forerunner to Republicanism, War of Independence and 'mercenary' actions for US forces. This 'republicanism' is mostly 'Irish' cliché against Monarchy.

Alas, the USA became a 'Privatised' political nation when it had its War of Independence. It was never 'sanctioned' by the British and to some degree now, the British seem more of a 'colony' to the USA now, these days.

Alas also, those Australians that rebelled against British rule, are indeed the biggest 'grovellers' to all things USA. The ultimate Australian 'crawl'.
...but USA will never 'support' Australia, like the British have.

...you will find, in the future - when Percival (Australia) bends the knee to King Arthur (Britain). It will bring Britain out of is 'dark age' (long after the process of Germany, France & Italy have dropped 'religion', politics and military - as an empowerment) - and on to 'save us'.
...while Lancelot (USA), having slept with King Arthur's wife (Ireland) fails us, but comes to the aid of his King.

Ahhh, don't you love human nature and 'story' - afterall, it was written ...in stone. Wink

Nations are no different to 'people'. Wink

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #184 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

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Reply #185 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:39am

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

That's right. Aboriginals are our 'black' representatives. Every region now has their own 'blacks', just like they all have their own representatives of the other races: blonde whites, red rangas, blue brunettes, olive greenies, yellows, grey ravens and brownies.

I would stand by my fellow 'black' Australian in a fight, if it was against others of my own 'racial' appearance from another region.

x8 Races.
x8 Regions.
...each Region has a representation of each of the 8 Races.
A wheel can only turn if it has 'spokes' to strengthen it. Wink

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #186 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 6:21pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:39am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

That's right. Aboriginals are our 'black' representatives. Every region now has their own 'blacks', just like they all have their own representatives of the other races: blonde whites, red rangas, blue brunettes, olive greenies, yellows, grey ravens and brownies.

I would stand by my fellow 'black' Australian in a fight, if it was against others of my own 'racial' appearance from another region.

x8 Races.
x8 Regions.
...each Region has a representation of each of the 8 Races.
A wheel can only turn if it has 'spokes' to strengthen it. Wink

Be racist all you like, I choose to opt out from such ignorant stupidity. It's irrelevant to this topic. Roll Eyes

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #187 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 6:39pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws...

Try again.

I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america.

Spot

just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot?
BTW based or modelled... but not on American ls...
Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago.

to base something on is to use that thing in its entirety and tweak it. to model on something is to use its format but not its data.

Our society isnt based on american. it was prolly based on british but we have evolved more towards americanism. Laws though are still pretty much what they were when drafted just lots and lots added to them. There are a lot of laws still on the books about herding your sheep in george st etc that they just dont want to remove.

Spot

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #188 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #189 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Allo bwian fancy you dwopping in here eh.

You may have missed it dopey but I did state that we were British subjects till last century. Did you miss it?

Aborigines... oh bwian what a dimwit you are. A referendum does not mean Australians saw them that way at all does it. What was the result bwian...? hmmmmm
The amendments were overwhelmingly endorsed, winning 90.77% of votes cast and carrying in all six states You think that was a mistake? Just suddenly happened overnight do you? tsk, tsk, tsk you are a dolt aren't you.
The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights bwian only came in, in 1948. All over the world social and societal changes came in only very recently. 1951, the UNHCR Refugee Convention.
What's your point apart from being a TROLL bwian. Seems you haven't disagreed with anything I stated even though for some odd reason YOU quoted me.
Looking for a fight bwian?
Find someone you can beat. Grin

Why don't you consider indigenous Australians human beings today?
I do and always have.
Seems most Australians always have too.
What a sad TROLL YOU are. Roll Eyes

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Reply #190 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:15pm

One more time for bwian who should probably actually read it before quoting it and then asking questions and making dumb statements that have nothing to do with it...

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

tsk, tsk, tsk bwian
tsk tsk tsk... Cheesy

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Reply #191 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:25pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Allo bwian fancy you dwopping in here eh.

You may have missed it dopey but I did state that we were British subjects till last century. Did you miss it?

Aborigines... oh bwian what a dimwit you are. A referendum does not mean Australians saw them that way at all does it. What was the result bwian...? hmmmmm
The amendments were overwhelmingly endorsed, winning 90.77% of votes cast and carrying in all six states You think that was a mistake? Just suddenly happened overnight do you? tsk, tsk, tsk you are a dolt aren't you.
The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights bwian only came in, in 1948. All over the world social and societal changes came in only very recently. 1951, the UNHCR Refugee Convention.
What's your point apart from being a TROLL bwian. Seems you haven't disagreed with anything I stated even though for some odd reason YOU quoted me.
Looking for a fight bwian?
Find someone you can beat. Grin

Why don't you consider indigenous Australians human beings today?
I do and always have.
Seems most Australians always have too.
What a sad TROLL YOU are. Roll Eyes

Oh, no, it wasn't a mistake, Geoff. The mistake was disallowing them from citizenship and being counted in the national Census in 1901. Something you and your party's national leader would have applauded more than likely.

I note you've avoid the, "British to his bootstraps," comment. So, which Australian Prime Minister made that declaration to the House of Representatives? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Reply #192 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:25pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Allo bwian fancy you dwopping in here eh.

You may have missed it dopey but I did state that we were British subjects till last century. Did you miss it?

Aborigines... oh bwian what a dimwit you are. A referendum does not mean Australians saw them that way at all does it. What was the result bwian...? hmmmmm
The amendments were overwhelmingly endorsed, winning 90.77% of votes cast and carrying in all six states You think that was a mistake? Just suddenly happened overnight do you? tsk, tsk, tsk you are a dolt aren't you.
The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights bwian only came in, in 1948. All over the world social and societal changes came in only very recently. 1951, the UNHCR Refugee Convention.
What's your point apart from being a TROLL bwian. Seems you haven't disagreed with anything I stated even though for some odd reason YOU quoted me.
Looking for a fight bwian?
Find someone you can beat. Grin

Why don't you consider indigenous Australians human beings today?
I do and always have.
Seems most Australians always have too.
What a sad TROLL YOU are. Roll Eyes

Oh, no, it wasn't a mistake, Geoff. The mistake was disallowing them from citizenship and being counted in the national Census in 1901. Something you and your party's national leader would have applauded more than likely.

I note you've avoid the, "British to his bootstraps," comment. So, which Australian Prime Minister made that declaration to the House of Representatives? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Oh dear bwian keeps blowing a gasket.
I don't have a party or a leader bwian and Stalin or whoever you follow is dead.

I replied to your idiocy bwian.
Your bootstrap comment is irrelevant my statement makes it so. Get an adult to explain it to you. Cheesy

Stop wasting my time TROLL. Roll Eyes

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Reply #193 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:02pm

One last time for bwian who's a dick.
Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:15pm:

One more time for bwian who should probably actually read it before quoting it and then asking questions and making dumb statements that have nothing to do with it...

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

tsk, tsk, tsk bwian
tsk tsk tsk... Cheesy

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Reply #194 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:22pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:00pm:

Oh dear bwian keeps blowing a gasket.

Nope. never, ever, "blow a gasket", Geoff. Never resort to shouting, ranting or raving. Unlike yourself.

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I don't have a party or a leader bwian and Stalin or whoever you follow is dead.

Nope, never, ever followed Stalin, Geoff. As for your party and leader, we all know it's Pauline and the PHONies, Geoff.

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I replied to your idiocy bwian.
Your bootstrap comment is irrelevant my statement makes it so. Get an adult to explain it to you. Cheesy

Obviously it is very relevant, Geoff. Some Australians believed they were British, "to their bootstraps", Geoff. Funny how you avoid that conclusion. Of course, they tended to be rather Tory in their views, now didn't they?

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Stop wasting my time TROLL. Roll Eyes

Of dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. What a silly man you are, Geoff. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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