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Reply #195 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Don't get hysterical, pissy auntie. That referendum was about the Commonwealth having powers regarding Aborigines.

The sections of the Constitution under consideration:

51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:-
...(xxvi) The people of any race, other than the aboriginal people in any State, for whom it is necessary to make special laws.

127. In reckoning the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth, or of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives should not be counted.

51 was about Commonwealth powers to make laws about aborigines, as distinct fro States having such powers.

127. was simply counting people in the census. Not the same as 'not considered human beings'.

Anyway, it wasn't 'their country' in the sense of a society and a country that has a constitution, parliament, a common language, recognised borders, can boil water, has invented the wheel, etc, etc. Aborigines had none of these and understood none of these concepts that make up a country,

I think it was actually very sensible and sensitive not to rush in a lot earlier and demand that they be like everyone else - which is what happened in non-Britannic colonies. Taking people from the Stone Age into the 20th century is not something you can rush.

Anyway, recognition and making laws for them has been probably the most calamitous event for the Aborigines that are still traditional Aborigines (ie not urban, blonde and blue eyed Aborigines). Violence, alcohol and drug related degradation, indignity, sexual predatory behavior towards children, unbelievable violence against women BY ABORIGINES is the stark feature of today's 'Aboriginal communities'.
No money can remedy their own 'not counting themselves as human being' malady.

Making laws for them means keeping them in their 'traditional environment' where they do nothing but sink. The YES vote in 1967 may well have been a huge mistake. There was no such degradation before. Now there is and there is no Commonwealth law that can do anything about it because it is NOT a matter of Commonwealth law or whether they are counted or not in the census.

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #196 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:50pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Funny that ... Aboriginals in the main don't consider themselves as Australians ....

they reckon they are just Aboriginals.

Never mind the fact that the word "Aboriginal" doesn't just apply to the Aboriginals on this continent ....

but to many other indigenous peoples around the globe.

Like the North American Indians, the Inuit, South American Indians, Polynesians, Melanesians, the Ainu of Japan, etc etc etc.

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aboriginal
abəˈrɪdʒɪn(ə)l/Submit
adjective:-

inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous.
synonyms: indigenous, native

noun:-

an aboriginal inhabitant of a place.
synonyms: native, indigene, aborigine, local, original inhabitant; rareautochthon
"the social structure of the aboriginals"

So they are because we are .. all Australians .... though they be Aboriginal Australians ...

despite all the tripe they waffle on NITV.

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #197 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

What a shame you can't recognise the crap you speak
& that many of those today who identify as Aboriginal Australians refuse to acknowledge their mixed heritage?

As many Australians who have mixed ancestry do ... even those mixes of Asian, Indian, African, ME & Mediterranean do?

Get out of the past you hand wringing, guilt ridden self loather.

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #198 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:25pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Allo bwian fancy you dwopping in here eh.

You may have missed it dopey but I did state that we were British subjects till last century. Did you miss it?

Aborigines... oh bwian what a dimwit you are. A referendum does not mean Australians saw them that way at all does it. What was the result bwian...? hmmmmm
The amendments were overwhelmingly endorsed, winning 90.77% of votes cast and carrying in all six states You think that was a mistake? Just suddenly happened overnight do you? tsk, tsk, tsk you are a dolt aren't you.
The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights bwian only came in, in 1948. All over the world social and societal changes came in only very recently. 1951, the UNHCR Refugee Convention.
What's your point apart from being a TROLL bwian. Seems you haven't disagreed with anything I stated even though for some odd reason YOU quoted me.
Looking for a fight bwian?
Find someone you can beat. Grin

Why don't you consider indigenous Australians human beings today?
I do and always have.
Seems most Australians always have too.
What a sad TROLL YOU are. Roll Eyes

Oh, no, it wasn't a mistake, Geoff. The mistake was disallowing them from citizenship and being counted in the national Census in 1901. Something you and your party's national leader would have applauded more than likely.

I note you've avoid the, "British to his bootstraps," comment. So, which Australian Prime Minister made that declaration to the House of Representatives? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Like I said ... get out of the past you self loather.

You've SFA of substance.

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #199 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:35pm

Oh yeah right Grendel. Roll Eyes

I'm a racist: because if I'm raised 'Sydney' style, which is Internationally based - then I would love everything 'exotic & foreign' while the domestic would be just plain 'criminal'.

...while the Melbournian version would be to love everyone domestic, like a Yellow Melbournian - but hate a Yellow Asian or North American, etc. Probably why the Sudanese are despised in Melbourne, but liked in Sydney Wink

Racism is a double-edged sword................ it cuts both ways. If I'm a racist, then I'm probably the 'best' racist you'll ever know, because I consciously know 'why' and 'how' - unlike yourself (ignorant racist).

In general, I do support both, pending circumstance.
I rob from the Bad rich and give to the Good poor,
protect the Good rich, from the Bad poor.
So I can, like an ambidextrous mind - accommodate that domestically, many Australians are 'scum' and foreigners are great, while being bias to Australians over foreigners as well - if they're good.

Until you can balance both and understand both... Wink

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #200 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:00pm:

Oh dear bwian keeps blowing a gasket.

Nope. never, ever, "blow a gasket", Geoff. Never resort to shouting, ranting or raving. Unlike yourself.

You can't shout in TEXT bwian, its an impossibility only pathetic LW Progs make stupid claims like that when losing an argument.
I note you make it a lot...

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I don't have a party or a leader bwian and Stalin or whoever you follow is dead.

Nope, never, ever followed Stalin, Geoff. As for your party and leader, we all know it's Pauline and the PHONies, Geoff.

I'm a swinging voter bwian. You are a liar and obsessed with Hanson and PHON. You need to stop being a lying TROLL. Or go see someone about your mental health.

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I replied to your idiocy bwian.
Your bootstrap comment is irrelevant my statement makes it so. Get an adult to explain it to you. Cheesy

Obviously it is very relevant, Geoff. Some Australians believed they were British, "to their bootstraps", Geoff. Funny how you avoid that conclusion. Of course, they tended to be rather Tory in their views, now didn't they?

No bwian Menzies is irrelevant to my comment. If he wasn't I would have mentioned him. Are you so stupid that you still ignore what I actually said? Apparently YOU are.

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Stop wasting my time TROLL. Roll Eyes

Of dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. What a silly man you are, Geoff. Roll Eyes

I leave being a silly man to YOU bwian... even if silly is a far too optimistic measure of your inadequacy.

So i reposted my original post and you still managed to ignore it and just post ad hom and flames... whose a widdle TWOLL then...

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #201 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:24am

Jasin wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Oh yeah right Grendel. Roll Eyes

I'm a racist: because if I'm raised 'Sydney' style, which is Internationally based - then I would love everything 'exotic & foreign' while the domestic would be just plain 'criminal'.

...while the Melbournian version would be to love everyone domestic, like a Yellow Melbournian - but hate a Yellow Asian or North American, etc. Probably why the Sudanese are despised in Melbourne, but liked in Sydney Wink

Racism is a double-edged sword................ it cuts both ways. If I'm a racist, then I'm probably the 'best' racist you'll ever know, because I consciously know 'why' and 'how' - unlike yourself (ignorant racist).

In general, I do support both, pending circumstance.
I rob from the Bad rich and give to the Good poor,
protect the Good rich, from the Bad poor.
So I can, like an ambidextrous mind - accommodate that domestically, many Australians are 'scum' and foreigners are great, while being bias to Australians over foreigners as well - if they're good.

Until you can balance both and understand both... Wink

You are a clueless p ick.
And yes you are racist, stupid and racist.
You'd make any Eugenicist proud.
I don't talk in colours... YOU do.
You constantly repeat your distorted views on life and society without any intellectual input, just wankerism.
Every post you make reeks of abject stupidity.
I cant believe any sane person would be as dumb as you.
Or believe the nonsense you continually espouse. Cheesy

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Reply #202 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 6:28pm

Grendel wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:00pm:

Oh dear bwian keeps blowing a gasket.

Nope. never, ever, "blow a gasket", Geoff. Never resort to shouting, ranting or raving. Unlike yourself.

You can't shout in TEXT bwian, its an impossibility only pathetic LW Progs make stupid claims like that when losing an argument.
I note you make it a lot...

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I don't have a party or a leader bwian and Stalin or whoever you follow is dead.

Nope, never, ever followed Stalin, Geoff. As for your party and leader, we all know it's Pauline and the PHONies, Geoff.

I'm a swinging voter bwian. You are a liar and obsessed with Hanson and PHON. You need to stop being a lying TROLL. Or go see someone about your mental health.

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I replied to your idiocy bwian.
Your bootstrap comment is irrelevant my statement makes it so. Get an adult to explain it to you. Cheesy

Obviously it is very relevant, Geoff. Some Australians believed they were British, "to their bootstraps", Geoff. Funny how you avoid that conclusion. Of course, they tended to be rather Tory in their views, now didn't they?

No bwian Menzies is irrelevant to my comment. If he wasn't I would have mentioned him. Are you so stupid that you still ignore what I actually said? Apparently YOU are.

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Stop wasting my time TROLL. Roll Eyes

Of dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. What a silly man you are, Geoff. Roll Eyes

I leave being a silly man to YOU bwian... even if silly is a far too optimistic measure of your inadequacy.

So i reposted my original post and you still managed to ignore it and just post ad hom and flames... whose a widdle TWOLL then...

Still can't get the hang of the quote function, hey, Geoff. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #204 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 6:41pm

Frank wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s. That is an undeniable fact. Australians were considered British subjects... NOT British, until the 1900s... but our culture and society does differ from the British culture. We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history. Just as we recognise the British.

Which Australian Prime Minister announced to the House of Representatives that he was "British to his bootstraps"? When did Australia recognise that Indigenou Australians were human beings and citizens of their own country? Oh, thats right, 1967, after a referendum was undertaken to get their permission. What a shame many white Australians don't consider Indigenous Australians to be human beings today... Roll Eyes

Don't get hysterical, pissy auntie. That referendum was about the Commonwealth having powers regarding Aborigines.

The sections of the Constitution under consideration:

51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:-
...(xxvi) The people of any race, other than the aboriginal people in any State, for whom it is necessary to make special laws.

127. In reckoning the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth, or of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives should not be counted.

51 was about Commonwealth powers to make laws about aborigines, as distinct fro States having such powers.

127. was simply counting people in the census. Not the same as 'not considered human beings'.

Before the 1967 Referendum Indigenous Australians were not considered human beings - they were not counted in the Census. In NSW they were counted as "Fauna". Funny that, hey, Soren? They were not considered citizens. They could not get a passport. So much for being Australians! Roll Eyes

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Anyway, it wasn't 'their country' in the sense of a society and a country that has a constitution, parliament, a common language, recognised borders, can boil water, has invented the wheel, etc, etc. Aborigines had none of these and understood none of these concepts that make up a country,

They were human beings, Soren. I know such a concept runs counter to your illogical "race" theories but they were and are members of the human race. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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I think it was actually very sensible and sensitive not to rush in a lot earlier and demand that they be like everyone else - which is what happened in non-Britannic colonies. Taking people from the Stone Age into the 20th century is not something you can rush.

Except they weren't considered to be members of the 18th or 19th century either. However the real reason why they were not considered human beings is because they weren't considered productive and therefore untaxable. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Anyway, recognition and making laws for them has been probably the most calamitous event for the Aborigines that are still traditional Aborigines (ie not urban, blonde and blue eyed Aborigines). Violence, alcohol and drug related degradation, indignity, sexual predatory behavior towards children, unbelievable violence against women BY ABORIGINES is the stark feature of today's 'Aboriginal communities'.
No money can remedy their own 'not counting themselves as human being' malady.

Making laws for them means keeping them in their 'traditional environment' where they do nothing but sink. The YES vote in 1967 may well have been a huge mistake. There was no such degradation before. Now there is and there is no Commonwealth law that can do anything about it because it is NOT a matter of Commonwealth law or whether they are counted or not in the census.

Typical racist thinking there, Soren. I suppose it was something you learnt as part of the Old Culture you know, the one you claim is superior to all others? The one that murdered 10 million people simply 'cause they were different? Tsk, tsk, how typical of you, Soren. Australian society tried your belief in apartheid thinking. It is what got the Indigenous Australians were they are today. Tsk, tsk. Funny about that. Roll Eyes

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Reply #205 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:03pm

Grendel wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:24am:

Jasin wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Oh yeah right Grendel. Roll Eyes

I'm a racist: because if I'm raised 'Sydney' style, which is Internationally based - then I would love everything 'exotic & foreign' while the domestic would be just plain 'criminal'.

...while the Melbournian version would be to love everyone domestic, like a Yellow Melbournian - but hate a Yellow Asian or North American, etc. Probably why the Sudanese are despised in Melbourne, but liked in Sydney Wink

Racism is a double-edged sword................ it cuts both ways. If I'm a racist, then I'm probably the 'best' racist you'll ever know, because I consciously know 'why' and 'how' - unlike yourself (ignorant racist).

In general, I do support both, pending circumstance.
I rob from the Bad rich and give to the Good poor,
protect the Good rich, from the Bad poor.
So I can, like an ambidextrous mind - accommodate that domestically, many Australians are 'scum' and foreigners are great, while being bias to Australians over foreigners as well - if they're good.

Until you can balance both and understand both... Wink

You are a clueless p ick.
And yes you are racist, stupid and racist.
You'd make any Eugenicist proud.
I don't talk in colours... YOU do.
You constantly repeat your distorted views on life and society without any intellectual input, just wankerism.
Every post you make reeks of abject stupidity.
I cant believe any sane person would be as dumb as you.
Or believe the nonsense you continually espouse. Cheesy

x8 lines of personal insult.
But not one example of 'racism' or the effort to understand why Racism is from your understanding.
At least I try.
All you can offer is personal insult 'wit'. (insert Brian 'yawn' here).
You're a bore of what is already known, but you lack any reasoning or imagination to what there is 'to know'.
You haven't any cards to put on the table regardless of win or lose, because you haven't got anything to offer at all.

So where is your wisdom and intelligence to give us explanation as to why Moslems are, why Koori's are, why the Colonisations, why the Genocides, why the New Worlds, why the cultural changing of Tides, why ...why ...why?????

You can't.
Because you have nothing!
Nothing but the anal-pumping butt monkey 'cliche' insults that we all see time and again.
You're nothing but a 'bore'. Roll Eyes

So put up or shut up.
I don't care if you're just got a pair of Jacks.
It's better than just having Jack S#$% to offer, which is what you throw around at me and others.

Nations and cultures are just like people.
There is reason behind their actions, past and future as well.
If you can't understand the world and the Big Picture (even the SAS are trained to 'see the big picture') - then fine, just don't stop the rest of us from moving further down the path than you.

BTW...

Yobbos & Wankers (Australian)
Gays & Rednecks (American)
...well, we all know where you're coming from now Wink

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Reply #206 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 6:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:00pm:

Oh dear bwian keeps blowing a gasket.

Nope. never, ever, "blow a gasket", Geoff. Never resort to shouting, ranting or raving. Unlike yourself.

You can't shout in TEXT bwian, its an impossibility only pathetic LW Progs make stupid claims like that when losing an argument.
I note you make it a lot...

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I don't have a party or a leader bwian and Stalin or whoever you follow is dead.

Nope, never, ever followed Stalin, Geoff. As for your party and leader, we all know it's Pauline and the PHONies, Geoff.

I'm a swinging voter bwian. You are a liar and obsessed with Hanson and PHON. You need to stop being a lying TROLL. Or go see someone about your mental health.

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I replied to your idiocy bwian.
Your bootstrap comment is irrelevant my statement makes it so. Get an adult to explain it to you. Cheesy

Obviously it is very relevant, Geoff. Some Australians believed they were British, "to their bootstraps", Geoff. Funny how you avoid that conclusion. Of course, they tended to be rather Tory in their views, now didn't they?

No bwian Menzies is irrelevant to my comment. If he wasn't I would have mentioned him. Are you so stupid that you still ignore what I actually said? Apparently YOU are.

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Stop wasting my time TROLL. Roll Eyes

Of dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. What a silly man you are, Geoff. Roll Eyes

I leave being a silly man to YOU bwian... even if silly is a far too optimistic measure of your inadequacy.

So i reposted my original post and you still managed to ignore it and just post ad hom and flames... whose a widdle TWOLL then...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Still can't get the hang of the quote function, hey, Geoff. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

LOL
TROLL...
YOU know that's not true bwian, we all know you are just trying to avoid acknowledging the truth.
But guess what bwian... it doesn't work dopey. Grin

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #207 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:18pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:03pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 1^st, 2018 at 9:24am:

Jasin wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Oh yeah right Grendel. Roll Eyes

I'm a racist: because if I'm raised 'Sydney' style, which is Internationally based - then I would love everything 'exotic & foreign' while the domestic would be just plain 'criminal'.

...while the Melbournian version would be to love everyone domestic, like a Yellow Melbournian - but hate a Yellow Asian or North American, etc. Probably why the Sudanese are despised in Melbourne, but liked in Sydney Wink

Racism is a double-edged sword................ it cuts both ways. If I'm a racist, then I'm probably the 'best' racist you'll ever know, because I consciously know 'why' and 'how' - unlike yourself (ignorant racist).

In general, I do support both, pending circumstance.
I rob from the Bad rich and give to the Good poor,
protect the Good rich, from the Bad poor.
So I can, like an ambidextrous mind - accommodate that domestically, many Australians are 'scum' and foreigners are great, while being bias to Australians over foreigners as well - if they're good.

Until you can balance both and understand both... Wink

You are a clueless p ick.
And yes you are racist, stupid and racist.
You'd make any Eugenicist proud.
I don't talk in colours... YOU do.
You constantly repeat your distorted views on life and society without any intellectual input, just wankerism.
Every post you make reeks of abject stupidity.
I cant believe any sane person would be as dumb as you.
Or believe the nonsense you continually espouse. Cheesy

x8 lines of personal insult.
But not one example of 'racism' or the effort to understand why Racism is from your understanding.
At least I try.
All you can offer is personal insult 'wit'. (insert Brian 'yawn' here).
You're a bore of what is already known, but you lack any reasoning or imagination to what there is 'to know'.
You haven't any cards to put on the table regardless of win or lose, because you haven't got anything to offer at all.

So where is your wisdom and intelligence to give us explanation as to why Moslems are, why Koori's are, why the Colonisations, why the Genocides, why the New Worlds, why the cultural changing of Tides, why ...why ...why?????

You can't.
Because you have nothing!
Nothing but the anal-pumping butt monkey 'cliche' insults that we all see time and again.
You're nothing but a 'bore'. Roll Eyes

So put up or shut up.
I don't care if you're just got a pair of Jacks.
It's better than just having Jack S#$% to offer, which is what you throw around at me and others.

Nations and cultures are just like people.
There is reason behind their actions, past and future as well.
If you can't understand the world and the Big Picture (even the SAS are trained to 'see the big picture') - then fine, just don't stop the rest of us from moving further down the path than you.

BTW...

Yobbos & Wankers (Australian)
Gays & Rednecks (American)
...well, we all know where you're coming from now Wink

LOL 8 lines of fact...
Every post you write proves me right dopey.
Don't go away mad... just go away. Cheesy

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #208 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:23pm

What do you call this idiocy?
Jasin wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 1:29pm:

Culture?

The 'Red' Western (Celtic) Europeans 'fled' to North America to be in 'Heaven'.

The 'White' Eastern (Slavic) Europeans were 'exiled' to Sahul (Australia) to be in 'Hell'.

The 'Grey' Southern (Latin) Europeans said from their idyllic island resorts of Oceania that "History was a lie and they were never in Europe to begin with!"

While the 'Blue' Northern (Scandinavian) Europeans had to clean up the mess in Europe after the Party had finished, a Party that they were never invited to.

Grin

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Re: Is culture a dirty word.
Reply #209 - Sep 1^st, 2018 at 7:26pm

Or this idiocy

Jasin wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Mohommedism was created to get back what Europe 'stole' from the Middle-east and the original Religion of Judaism.

Wink

So watch out France, Islam is coming to strip you of your 'Christianity' Tongue

Germany has already 'broken' its Christian Cross (Swaztika).
Eventually even Italy will have to renounce its 'Christianity' via its future genocide upon the moslems and its defence against Israel.
...then, last of all will come the British 'Cross' (Union Jack) Wink

Now that will be a big one indeed.

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