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Reply #60 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 2:25pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! Cry

I say the standard argument is that the State may not murder in my name.

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Reply #62 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 2:51pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! Cry

Who said anything about compassion?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38440 Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #64 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 3:06pm PZ547 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 2:53pm: Quote: the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries Appalling, but beyond that...what is your point?
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Reply #65 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:03pm

PZ547 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 2:27pm:

And euthanasia to be provided the child currently compelled to live its life as a vegetable

I grant you it is cruel and my heart breaks for this baby....but who are we to say who should live and who should die....

I wouldnt want to be the person with that job..

would you?..

if we all lived in a perfect world....who would be the most perfect?.... I dont seriously think we want that..

as much as the baby did not a thing to deserve this it is what it is......I cant think of a punishment that people like that should get to be honest.....

do we stoop to their level will that make this child better????..... an eye for an eye..

I dont think it works like that.

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Reply #66 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:18pm

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 2:15pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! Cry

I would not vote for a return of the death penalty.....

but on posting the op...I find have not the tiniest bit of compassion for this couple .. if they throw away the key...

deterrent or not... what we are doing isnt working either.....there is no punishment that will ever give some justice... Sad

Cods,
you'd never make a good hangman then.

However - Valkie , Hammer & I would do it for free and
sleep well the same night knowing that society was a better place
and that we'd done our duty for society.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #67 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:24pm your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}... the point is the death penalty never did stop murder... look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was...... no mate give it up.....
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Reply #68 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:26pm

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....

Three good posts from cods today, in this thread.

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Reply #69 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:27pm

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....

But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.

Hanging is a strong force of dissuasion.

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Reply #70 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....

But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.

Hanging is a strong force of dissuasion.

No, it doesn't.

Worldwide studies, over many decades, have shown just the opposite.

Put it back in your pants, Booby.

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Reply #71 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....

But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.

no my dear....I watched a bit of a show on SBS it was meant to be entertainment Roll Eyes

The handmaids tale...

dark and gloomy as hell and the one show I managed to get had people hanging in the streets...

so they had no choice but to walk past them

sorry my dear.... everyone in the show looked mad and sad and beaten down...no no no,.,.

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Reply #72 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:06pm

Love the discussion about compassion.

How much COMPASSION do murderers show to their victims?

How much COMPASSION do paedophiles show for their victims and their families?

How much COMPASSION do rapists show for their victims?

I'm happy to show them the same COMPASSION they show.
While I throw the switch.

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Reply #73 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:06pm:

Love the discussion about compassion.

How much COMPASSION do murderers show to their victims?

How much COMPASSION do paedophiles show for their victims and their families?

How much COMPASSION do rapists show for their victims?

I'm happy to show them the same COMPASSION they show.
While I throw the switch.

They deserve no compassion.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38440 Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #74 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby?
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