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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101026 Melbourne Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #75 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:48pm Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm: What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? Everything. Criminals show no compassion for their victims. It's not enough to rob someone - they want to maim & kill them as well.
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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #76 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby?

Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.

And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder? Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #77 - Aug 30^th, 2018 at 9:05pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby?

Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.

And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder? Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.

There's no other way to do it Aussie -

pulling out a rotten tooth is not nice either

but it's a job that has to be done.

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #78 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:50am

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby?

Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.

And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder? Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.

The same way murderers plan and kill their victims

The same way paedophiles groom and work on kids for years to get their destructive way.

The same way drug dealers plan and build addicts to feather their own nests.

The difference is
The criminal has many victims who have done nothing wrong

The state removes a creature who does wrong, and will continue to harm innocent people.

It's not hard to see the difference unless you deliberately don't want to.

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #79 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:09am

Valkie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 5:50am:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby?

Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.

And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder? Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.

The same way murderers plan and kill their victims

The same way paedophiles groom and work on kids for years to get their destructive way.

The same way drug dealers plan and build addicts to feather their own nests.

The difference is
The criminal has many victims who have done nothing wrong

The state removes a creature who does wrong, and will continue to harm innocent people.

It's not hard to see the difference unless you deliberately don't want to.

dear Valkie,
this country needs more people like you.
Also - President Duterte knows what to do.

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #80 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

Huh

In extreme cases it's needed.

PS. notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.

Plenty of people complained.

I didn't hear a single complaint.

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The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.

There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.

And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.

are you referring to Bali Bombers or the Bali 9....

if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?

Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick

ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....

so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?

Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.

You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

Wink

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #81 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 2:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

Huh

In extreme cases it's needed.

PS. notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.

Plenty of people complained.

I didn't hear a single complaint.

Quote:

The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.

There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.

And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.

are you referring to Bali Bombers or the Bali 9....

if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?

Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick

ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....

so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?

Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.

You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

Wink

He's certainly an extremist.

If any other extremist says ...

"Some people have no right to live."

"I have no issue in eradicating these insects No more than I do squishing a cockroach."

"Time for the people to bite Back."

... the right wingers go off their tiny, empty heads.

Yet when one of their own promotes such violence, they have no issue with it.

Is there a bigger group of hypocrites in the world than right wingers?

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #82 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 6:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 2:28pm:

He's certainly an extremist.

If any other extremist says ...

"Some people have no right to live."

"I have no issue in eradicating these insects No more than I do squishing a cockroach."

"Time for the people to bite Back."

... the right wingers go off their tiny, empty heads.

Yet when one of their own promotes such violence, they have no issue with it.

Is there a bigger group of hypocrites in the world than right wingers?

Greggy,
someone has to stand up for what is right -

pulling out a rotten tooth is not nice either

but it's a job that has to be done.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38440 Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #83 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:00pm So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101026 Melbourne Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #84 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:04pm Aussie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:00pm: So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person? A rotten tooth is a mass of decaying filth - so yes it's almost the same.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38440 Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #85 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:13pm So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman. Okay.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101026 Melbourne Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #86 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:15pm Aussie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:13pm: So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman. Okay. Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman - I want you to be a man for once.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38440 Gender:	Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back Reply #87 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:16pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:15pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:13pm: So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman. Okay. Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman - I want you to be a man for once. I am not a Dentist, Bobby.
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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #88 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:19pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

Huh

In extreme cases it's needed.

PS. notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.

Plenty of people complained.

I didn't hear a single complaint.

Quote:

The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.

There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.

And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.

are you referring to Bali Bombers or the Bali 9....

if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?

Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick

ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....

so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?

Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.

You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

Wink

But in reality I know who the fanatic is Roll Eyes

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Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Reply #89 - Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:22pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2018 at 7:00pm:

So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person?

How about you pose that question to all the premeditated murderers we have locked up in out prison system?

Or the many that have got out after paltry sentencing or inept parole decisions?

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