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Reply #15 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 10:51pm
 
Pre-orchestrated 'mystery making'.  Roll Eyes
Chee got paid well. Did you love the bit when a Politician says he's a very strong man.  Grin

The Yowie originated by the aboriginals to label the 'outcast man'. The loner, the hobo and sometimes... the deformed.
The ultimate punishment in Aboriginal culture was 'isolation' - outcasting, exiling, bannishment. Shunned by all tribes for communication was common between all tribes. A Pitjantjatjara elder could learn of news from the Eora on the east coast.
The cruel irony of such a punishment is akin to the isolation of the aboriginals for 40,000 years (that's 35,000 years longer than the start of civilisation in the Middle-East) here upon this continent.
Why do you read me saying occassionally:
"How do you kill an aussie? Leave them alone, they will do it themselves."


Mythology of its growth into Colonial Australians and modern ones has changed it to being just a scary mysterious story.

But its all based on something beneath the mystery 'cloak'.
The Blue Mountains Panther was just that - a Panther. Released by its owner, of the Notre Dame - to spite his divorce and the RSPCA that attacked all the Sydney Amusements like Bullens Animal World, African Lion Safaria,  El Cabablo Blanco and more.

But notice how the Media sensationalism changes it.

These days, most 'YOWIES' are not just Aboriginal, but others who now venture out into the bush... alone.

Remember how the Europeans called the Neanderthals of folklore 10,000 years ago. They called them Ogres, monsters who hid in Caves. They were 'people' after-all.

Nothing worse than a bullshit artist and that's exactly what Chee is as a Politician. By making the sighting of a hobo or exiled person out to be more than it actually was.

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Reply #16 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:00pm
 
Recent Yowie encounter in SE Queensland

Truckie.  Mid morning. Coming around a bend. Thought a boulder had rolled onto the road.  Boulder stood up.  Big. Gave the truck a shove. Grunted. Took off into the bush

Truckie got a good look at it from the navel up. When asked if it was animal or human, truckie's impression was that it was an animal

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Reply #17 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:43pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
Recent Yowie encounter in SE Queensland

Truckie.  Mid morning. Coming around a bend. Thought a boulder had rolled onto the road.  Boulder stood up.  Big. Gave the truck a shove. Grunted. Took off into the bush

Truckie got a good look at it from the navel up. When asked if it was animal or human, truckie's impression was that it was an animal

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It's bad luck the truckie didn't have a dash cam like so many truckies have these days

In fact with the number or cars and trucks that have dash cams it's surprising we don't have some good clear footage of one
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Reply #18 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm
 
I honestly think that its just an elaboration (exaggeration) of an 'every day person', that has mannerisms/expressions that give the impression  of something worse. Really just a big drunk guy who hasn't been home from weeks on the grog.

The other thought is that it is a relic 'Hominid' species.
You could say, Australia's version of the more older San Bushman, compared to the Bantu - though San Bushman are not hominids.
If the Yowie are relic Hominids living in the densest forests and bushlands. They probably wouldn't number more than 50 across the country.

How incredible that would be - that such Hominids can deal with the extremes of the natural environment, unlike us  - or even the Aboriginals/San Bushmen. These Hominids only... scavenge. Never cook, use tools - they are the 'animal' in us.
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Reply #19 - Jan 29th, 2019 at 9:17am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
Recent Yowie encounter in SE Queensland

Truckie.  Mid morning. Coming around a bend. Thought a boulder had rolled onto the road.  Boulder stood up.  Big. Gave the truck a shove. Grunted. Took off into the bush

Truckie got a good look at it from the navel up. When asked if it was animal or human, truckie's impression was that it was an animal

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How is this in any way credible?
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Reply #20 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 3:26pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29th, 2019 at 9:17am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
Recent Yowie encounter in SE Queensland

Truckie.  Mid morning. Coming around a bend. Thought a boulder had rolled onto the road.  Boulder stood up.  Big. Gave the truck a shove. Grunted. Took off into the bush

Truckie got a good look at it from the navel up. When asked if it was animal or human, truckie's impression was that it was an animal

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How is this in any way credible?


Why would it not be credible?

Ever been required to provide a witness statement to police? 

How about when a couple of dozen random strangers are required to provide witness statements to police involving the same incident?

Ever been called as a witness in a trial?
How about when several witnesses are called to provide testimony at a trial relating to the same incident?

We either trust our fellow man to provide what they believe to be their honest testimony, or we do not.  If we do not, it's time we scrapped all witness statements and saved ourselves a lot of time and money

Early colonists encountered unknown creatures, neither man nor animal.  These were reported in news and via word of mouth going back to earliest white settlement.  Aborigines of various tribes confirmed the creatures existed and claim the creatures were always known to Aborigines.  Not all the creatures were large. Not all were clothed in heavy coats of hair and they were reported as being, in colour, from light grey to white and through the spectrum to dark brown, black.  The Aborigines claimed to fight them and did not regard them as benign

In the early days of white Australia, tales of kangaroos and other animals unique to Australia, were not believed.  The platypus was widely considered an amateurish hoax. Were those who'd reported the platypus and kangaroo lying, inventing or imagining those creatures?

Life has always been tough for the rank and file and was particularly so for Australia's early settlers.  No electricity or running water, no supermarkets or ready-packed meat and food generally.  Land had to be cleared with muscle and pick. The climate sapped energy and destroyed crops. Children were born in rough slab huts. Water drawn from the creek. When they dropped onto their beds at night, they slept the sleep of the exhausted.  Religion and promise of a happy afterlife was all they had to look forward to.  They were practical people, of necessity. Those who couldn't survive didn't last.  With bandicoots, snakes, lizards, exotic birds, unknown insect life and a multitude of strange creatures and unexplored terrain, did the early settlers (and those who followed) need yet another strange creature -- the Hairy Man or Yowie (travelling via a multitude of names)?


The earliest known inhabitants of this land, along with people of today, occasionally claim to see creatures unknown to them.  They invariably report how unsettling the experience was.  Many say they had no knowledge or interest in 'Yowies' prior to their experience.  Yet they drive vehicles, raise families, hold down jobs, are regarded as 'solid, respectable, down to earth' individuals.  They may have provided witness statements to police which comprised evidence later utilized by police in the solving of a case or apprehension of a criminal.  They may have given testimony in court which contributed to the acquittal or conviction of another person.  Obviously police and courts, employers, families, neighbours, friends, etc. believe them to be credible.  So when (and why) are we supposed to decide their reporting of a creature dubbed the Yowie is not credible? Remember, those who reported sighting a platypus were considered to be hoaxers and liars


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Reply #21 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 3:37pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29th, 2019 at 9:17am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
Recent Yowie encounter in SE Queensland

Truckie.  Mid morning. Coming around a bend. Thought a boulder had rolled onto the road.  Boulder stood up.  Big. Gave the truck a shove. Grunted. Took off into the bush

Truckie got a good look at it from the navel up. When asked if it was animal or human, truckie's impression was that it was an animal

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How is this in any way credible?


Why would it not be credible?

Ever been required to provide a witness statement to police? 

How about when a couple of dozen random strangers are required to provide witness statements to police involving the same incident?

Ever been called as a witness in a trial?
How about when several witnesses are called to provide testimony at a trial relating to the same incident?

We either trust our fellow man to provide what they believe to be their honest testimony, or we do not.  If we do not, it's time we scrapped all witness statements and saved ourselves a lot of time and money

Early colonists encountered unknown creatures, neither man nor animal.  These were reported in news and via word of mouth going back to earliest white settlement.  Aborigines of various tribes confirmed the creatures existed and claim the creatures were always known to Aborigines.  Not all the creatures were large. Not all were clothed in heavy coats of hair and they were reported as being, in colour, from light grey to white and through the spectrum to dark brown, black.  The Aborigines claimed to fight them and did not regard them as benign

In the early days of white Australia, tales of kangaroos and other animals unique to Australia, were not believed.  The platypus was widely considered an amateurish hoax. Were those who'd reported the platypus and kangaroo lying, inventing or imagining those creatures?

Life has always been tough for the rank and file and was particularly so for Australia's early settlers.  No electricity or running water, no supermarkets or ready-packed meat and food generally.  Land had to be cleared with muscle and pick. The climate sapped energy and destroyed crops. Children were born in rough slab huts. Water drawn from the creek. When they dropped onto their beds at night, they slept the sleep of the exhausted.  Religion and promise of a happy afterlife was all they had to look forward to.  They were practical people, of necessity. Those who couldn't survive didn't last.  With bandicoots, snakes, lizards, exotic birds, unknown insect life and a multitude of strange creatures and unexplored terrain, did the early settlers (and those who followed) need yet another strange creature -- the Hairy Man or Yowie (travelling via a multitude of names)?


The earliest known inhabitants of this land, along with people of today, occasionally claim to see creatures unknown to them.  They invariably report how unsettling the experience was.  Many say they had no knowledge or interest in 'Yowies' prior to their experience.  Yet they drive vehicles, raise families, hold down jobs, are regarded as 'solid, respectable, down to earth' individuals.  They may have provided witness statements to police which comprised evidence later utilized by police in the solving of a case or apprehension of a criminal.  They may have given testimony in court which contributed to the acquittal or conviction of another person.  Obviously police and courts, employers, families, neighbours, friends, etc. believe them to be credible.  So when (and why) are we supposed to decide their reporting of a creature dubbed the Yowie is not credible? Remember, those who reported sighting a platypus were considered to be hoaxers and liars





Because frequently truckies are fatigued or on drugs to keep them awake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyewitness_testimony Eyewitness testimony has been shown to be not 100% accurate.


is an excellent study of selective attention. I'll give it away but the point of the video is to count how many passes of the basketball are conducted during the course of the video. The answer is 15, but the point was the gorilla. IN the study, about half of people watching the video didn't see the gorilla. These guys do a lot of study into how we perceive the world around us.
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Reply #22 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm
 
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports. So do religions

If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11
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Reply #23 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:20pm
 
Oh come off it Bojack. You're a smart guy.
The 'Yowie' subject has been around longer than Europeans have been here since 1788 in any permanent way.

When Europe was starting to develop by Sapien existence, there were still many Neanderthal's scratching isolated existences before finally vanishing for more than just 'one' reason. I'm sure many, once they became a unempowered minority - they were hunted as ugly Ogres, Trolls and other 'monster' nicknames.

I'm sure there is a plausible explaination for the Yowie subject. But which one? And really, is there more than 'one' type of Yowie?
So to me, there is substantial stories provided down through the ages by Aboriginals (which, like the Australian coastline of GBR, shows that 'stories' are factual evidence that have lasted in accuracy for tens of thousands of years) of Yowies and they all seem to set the Yowies as something 'apart' from being Aboriginal.
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Reply #24 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 8:32pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports.


But not one clear photo (which is remarkable considering that everyone has mobile phones and cc cameras and dashcams are everywhere)
No Yowie remains have ever been found
No evidence of a Yowie population (which would be required if they were to breed)


PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


So you believe a handful of people who say they have seen Yowies but you dismiss the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw 9/11........that is truly bizarre
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Reply #25 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 10:40pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports.


But not one clear photo (which is remarkable considering that everyone has mobile phones and cc cameras and dashcams are everywhere)
No Yowie remains have ever been found
No evidence of a Yowie population (which would be required if they were to breed)


PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


So you believe a handful of people who say they have seen Yowies but you dismiss the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw 9/11........that is truly bizarre


Oh wow - just 30 years of this stuff and the Barnacle expects an entire portfolio of evidence.  Roll Eyes

I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the remaining Hominids in the last Century or two have been totally wiped out do to their environment being destroyed. Australia has been deforested by 80%. It's amazing that they found the Wollemi Pines as it is and they have been around long before even the first Dinosaurs evolved. Other species have survived for such eons. Even the 'Apes' have still stuck around.
I'm sorry Barnacle, but besides a lack of 'Westernised' evidence, the coincidence of too much 'previous' evidence via folklore, storytelling (Dreamtime) and such. Kinda makes me think...

you're an idiot!  Grin

Maybe the last Hominid on the planet died a lonely death last year. But because it wasn't captured on CCTV or a Dashcam, you couldn't even admit a possibility.
You're playing it too safe for your own case.  Roll Eyes
You need to 'branch out' like a new species Barnacle.
Go ask a Gorilla how it managed to survive for so long and if it wasn't for concerted efforts - they too would be gone around 'just' 50 years ago.
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Reply #26 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 8:42am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports. So do religions

If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


Do they though? From my understanding the cops also want forensic evidence
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Reply #27 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:07pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports.


But not one clear photo (which is remarkable considering that everyone has mobile phones and cc cameras and dashcams are everywhere)
No Yowie remains have ever been found
No evidence of a Yowie population (which would be required if they were to breed)


PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


So you believe a handful of people who say they have seen Yowies but you dismiss the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw 9/11........that is truly bizarre



If you take another look, you'll see I said


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I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11



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Reply #28 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:15pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 8:42am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports. So do religions

If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


Do they though? From my understanding the cops also want forensic evidence



Not that long ago that police had to rely on witness statements.  As in, before fingerprinting, blood-typing and way before dna profiling, forensic analysis

Plunge our technically-advanced world into chaos and once again, police will be back to asking, 'What did he/she look like? Can you remember what he/she was wearing?  Did they have a weapon?  Which way did they go?  If you see them again, get in touch'

Even IN our technically-advanced world, people are tried and convicted for murder without a body & without a scrap of forensic evidence.  It's known as 'circumstantial' evidence and that is basically the police's conviction, all t hings considered, that Bloggs murdered Smith, based primarily on witness statements

and you know all this

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Reply #29 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:20pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 8:42am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
There are thousands of witness reports re: Yowies. Under different names, they are reported from all corners of the globe

Our legal system relies on witness reports. So do religions

If twenty people are saying roughly the same thing, I'm going to believe there's some substance to it

On the other hand, I didn't buy the US govt's claims about 9/11


Do they though? From my understanding the cops also want forensic evidence



Not that long ago that police had to rely on witness statements.  As in, before fingerprinting, blood-typing and way before dna profiling, forensic analysis

Plunge our technically-advanced world into chaos and once again, police will be back to asking, 'What did he/she look like? Can you remember what he/she was wearing?  Did they have a weapon?  Which way did they go?  If you see them again, get in touch'

Even IN our technically-advanced world, people are tried and convicted for murder without a body & without a scrap of forensic evidence.  It's known as 'circumstantial' evidence and that is basically the police's conviction, all t hings considered, that Bloggs murdered Smith, based primarily on witness statements

and you know all this




And circumstantial evidence doesnt just rely on one tried truckie. I'm sorry I'm calling BS on this yowie thing.
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