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Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
Gas leak: Government tries to release its greenhouse news on the quiet

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The Morrison government stands accused of trying to sneak-release the latest greenhouse gas emission figures – they’ve gone up, again – by making them public on the eve of the footy grand finals.

The figures are the latest evidence that Australia will fail to meet its Paris Agreement targets, despite the government’s claims to the contrary.

In the year to March 2018, Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions rose by 1.3 per cent – totalling 529.9 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent – according to new figures published late Friday afternoon by the Department of Environment and Energy.

This means that gas emissions stand at the highest level since 2010 – prior to Julia Gillard’s misnamed carbon tax being introduced.

Under the cover of darkness

The Climate Council’s acting CEO, Martin Rice, via email, said: “The federal government is taking out the trash under the cover of darkness in order to hide our rubbish results on greenhouse gas pollution.”

Dr Rice said Australia’s greenhouse gas pollution levels have been consistently rising for three years, while the government had failed to roll out any credible climate and energy policy.

“The result of this inaction is Australia is now further away from effectively tackling climate change than ever before,” he said.

“Australians continue to witness the impact of accelerating climate change across the nation, through extreme weather events including soaring temperatures, bushfires and drought.”

Caught on the hop

A spokesman for the Greens, speaking informally, said the party had been caught on the hop by the furtive release, and had not yet had time to fully analyse the figures.

A statement from the Greens climate change and energy spokesman Adam Bandt said: “Dumping this terrible news on grand final eve is a disgrace. Pollution is going up, the government boasts it has no renewables policy and global warming is getting worse.”

Australian Conservation Foundation Chief Executive Officer, Kelly O’Shanassy, said: “This latest pollution scorecard casts extreme doubt over the Morrison government’s claim that Australia will meet our 2030 emissions reduction target ‘in a canter’ without strong new action.

“Slipping this latest data out late on a Friday as Australians prepare for the football grand finals shows that the Morrison government is embarrassed by its lack of climate change action.”

Australia’s Paris climate commitment is to reduce 2005 level pollution by 26-28 per cent by 2030. Emissions have been trending higher for about four years.

The good news aspect of the report is also embarrassing for a government leery of the extent that renewables should play a part in energy policy – if we were to actually have one.

There was a drop of 4.3 per cent in emissions from the electricity sector, where most of our pollution comes from coal power stations, because of the increasing construction of renewables such as solar and wind power – as required by Australia’s national Renewable Energy Target.

As Kelly O’Shanassy observed: “The Morrison government has declared it will not replace this target after 2020, meaning Australian climate pollution is at risk of growing even further.”

There was also a decline in emissions from land use change, with emissions down 5.2 per cent.

Overall, emissions were 134.7 million tonnes, the highest quarterly figure since September 2010.

Renewables helped, gas production didn’t

So what caused the jump? Fugitive emissions jumped 13.7 per cent.

Fugitive emissions, according to the Climate Change Authority, are the gases that leak or are vented during the extraction, production, processing, storage, transmission and distribution of fossil fuels such as coal, crude oil and natural gas. Emissions from decommissioned underground coal mines are also included in this sector.

But most of the fugitive emissions were from increased productivity in the gas sector.

Environment Minister Melissa Price said per-capita emission levels were now 36 per cent below 1990 levels. Well, you’d hope so, because per capita levels in 1990 were through the roof – according to a government greenhouse inventory graph.

“The latest report on Australia’s national greenhouse gas inventory released today clearly shows Australia is on track to beat its 2020 emissions target,” Minister Price said in a statement.

But if this was a good news story, why release it on the eve of Australia’s biggest sporting weekend?

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Reply #1 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
They're going up in China too. But no one cares about that. And Germany too.

And Australia is still a carbon sink.
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
So direct action is another notch in libtards belt of failures
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Its time wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:26pm:
So direct action is another notch in libtards belt of failures



So you expect more of Australia than China or Germany?

And that, of course, assumes that CO2 is actually a "bad" thing. Wink

"Renewables helped, gas production didn’t"

Damn. just the last couple of months gas was the saviour. So much better than coal. Oh well just invest in more renewables. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #4 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Its time wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:26pm:
So direct action is another notch in libtards belt of failures



So you expect more of Australia than China or Germany?

And that, of course, assumes that CO2 is actually a "bad" thing. Wink

"Renewables helped, gas production didn’t"

Damn. just the last couple of months gas was the saviour. So much better than coal. Oh well just invest in more renewables. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I see you're posting your usual rubbish with no citations that demonstrates your ossification of thought.

I've got news for you. It's not the 20th century any more.

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Reply #5 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:48pm
 
BTW - New paper

"Earth’s outgoing longwave radiation linear due to H2O greenhouse effect"

"The team found this linear relationship breaks down when Earth’s global average surface temperatures go much beyond 300 K, or 80 F. In such a scenario, it would be much more difficult for the Earth to shed heat at roughly the same rate as its surface warms. For now, that number is hovering around 285 K, or 53 F. "

http://news.mit.edu/2018/how-earth-sheds-heat-space-0924

Only 26F before it breaks down. Apparently .

And H2O controls temp? oh dear.
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Reply #6 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:23pm
 
BTW - the above is another model based study. Do with it what you wish.
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lee wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
BTW - New paper

"Earth’s outgoing longwave radiation linear due to H2O greenhouse effect"

"The team found this linear relationship breaks down when Earth’s global average surface temperatures go much beyond 300 K, or 80 F. In such a scenario, it would be much more difficult for the Earth to shed heat at roughly the same rate as its surface warms. For now, that number is hovering around 285 K, or 53 F. "

http://news.mit.edu/2018/how-earth-sheds-heat-space-0924

Only 26F before it breaks down. Apparently .

And H2O controls temp? oh dear.

That's why it's called a "runaway greenhouse." Once the water vapour starts making a critical contribution, it is game over because it accelerates in a positive feedback. It won't stop until the oceans boil away and are lost to space. When does that happen? Nobody knows for sure but it could be closer than we think.

Do you want to see the future of this planet? Look at Venus. Earth will be like that one day. If human activity wasn't contributing, Earth will become uninhabitable between one and two billion years from now due to increased solar activity. That cannot be stopped. However, it can be accelerated, and that's what is happening right now. That's why we need to turn down the thermostat.

The worst part is not what we know. It's what we don't know. What happens when we warm up the permafrost where a lot of methane is trapped? What happens if the methane clathrates in the oceans start escaping? How much warming before it becomes irreversible?
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Reply #8 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am
 
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them
they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo
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Reply #9 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:39am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them

they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

Citation needed.

Time to show the "time to build a coal plant" sickos a calendar and explain to them that it's not the 20th century anymore and new, cheaper technology is available.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo

Uneducated people confuse climate with weather and don't use proper punctuation or capitalisation. Are you one of these people?  Huh
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Reply #10 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:13am
 
Bam wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:39am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them

they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

Citation needed.

Time to show the "time to build a coal plant" sickos a calendar and explain to them that it's not the 20th century anymore and new, cheaper technology is available.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo

Uneducated people confuse climate with weather and don't use proper punctuation or capitalisation. Are you one of these people?  Huh


uneducated people listen to people like flannery who have vested financial interests in the rubbish they spruke
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Reply #11 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:15am
 
Bam wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:39am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them

they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

Citation needed.

Time to show the "time to build a coal plant" sickos a calendar and explain to them that it's not the 20th century anymore and new, cheaper technology is available.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo

Uneducated people confuse climate with weather and don't use proper punctuation or capitalisation. Are you one of these people?  Huh



why i am happy to cite your very own ABC Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The Japanese government is moving ahead with its plans to build up to 45 new coal fired power stations.

Japan plans 45 new high-energy, low-emissions HELE coal fired power plants. ( ABC News )
The power plants will utilise high energy, low emissions (HELE) technology that use high-quality black coal.

Japan is the largest overseas market for Australian coal producers, taking more than a third of all exports.

Tom O'Sullivan, a Tokyo based energy consultant with Mathyos Global Advisory, said in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011, Japan started importing more liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Australia.

But he said the move to more coal fired power was because coal was cheaper than LNG, and the energy security was priority for the government.

"Japan needs to import 95 per cent of all its energy sources," he said.
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Reply #12 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:18am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:13am:
uneducated people listen to people like flannery who have vested financial interests in the rubbish they spruke



And the coal guys are merely concerned citizens?
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #13 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:19am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:15am:
Bam wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:39am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them

they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

Citation needed.

Time to show the "time to build a coal plant" sickos a calendar and explain to them that it's not the 20th century anymore and new, cheaper technology is available.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo

Uneducated people confuse climate with weather and don't use proper punctuation or capitalisation. Are you one of these people?  Huh



why i am happy to cite your very own ABC Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The Japanese government is moving ahead with its plans to build up to 45 new coal fired power stations.

Japan plans 45 new high-energy, low-emissions HELE coal fired power plants. ( ABC News )
The power plants will utilise high energy, low emissions (HELE) technology that use high-quality black coal.

Japan is the largest overseas market for Australian coal producers, taking more than a third of all exports.

Tom O'Sullivan, a Tokyo based energy consultant with Mathyos Global Advisory, said in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011, Japan started importing more liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Australia.

But he said the move to more coal fired power was because coal was cheaper than LNG, and the energy security was priority for the government.

"Japan needs to import 95 per cent of all its energy sources," he said.


So, we've gone from "the japanese are building 48 of them", to "plans to build up to 45".
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Reply #14 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:19am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:15am:
Bam wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:39am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
the only graph that Joe Lunchbox cares about is the electricity price graph.
time to build a coal plant .
the japanese are building 48 of them

they are smart people.
they could come and build a couple for us .

Citation needed.

Time to show the "time to build a coal plant" sickos a calendar and explain to them that it's not the 20th century anymore and new, cheaper technology is available.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:15am:
greenhouse gases Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

the longest ski season ever in the snowy mountains this year.
still minus 2 in canberra.

luckt they didnt take Flannerys advice and close thredbo

Uneducated people confuse climate with weather and don't use proper punctuation or capitalisation. Are you one of these people?  Huh



why i am happy to cite your very own ABC Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The Japanese government is moving ahead with its plans to build up to 45 new coal fired power stations.

Japan plans 45 new high-energy, low-emissions HELE coal fired power plants. ( ABC News )
The power plants will utilise high energy, low emissions (HELE) technology that use high-quality black coal.

Japan is the largest overseas market for Australian coal producers, taking more than a third of all exports.

Tom O'Sullivan, a Tokyo based energy consultant with Mathyos Global Advisory, said in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011, Japan started importing more liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Australia.

But he said the move to more coal fired power was because coal was cheaper than LNG, and the energy security was priority for the government.

"Japan needs to import 95 per cent of all its energy sources," he said.


So, we've gone from "the japanese are building 48 of them", to "plans to build up to 45".



hopefully our fine and efficient japanese neighbours will build 3 for us (taking it to 48) so we dont suffer blackouts and so that you can have internet access in your mummys basement
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