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Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates
Oct 13^th, 2018 at 6:23am

October 11 2018 Newcastle Herald
Newcastle lord mayor Nuatali Nelmes joins fight to protect club workers' weekend penalties

Newcastle lord mayor Nuatali Nelmes has joined a campaign to stop peak body Clubs Australia cutting weekend penalty rates for licensed clubs employees.

Clubs Australia is facing a rebellion from some of its 6500 member clubs after applying last year to the Fair Work Commission to abolish the Registered and Licensed Clubs Award and move employees to the Hospitality Industry Award.

The commission cut penalty rates for the hospitality award in February. Sad

Club Macquarie, Newcastle Leagues Club, Denman RSL, Wangi RSL and Kotara Bowling Club are among 14 Hunter clubs which have joined a campaign by union group United Voice against the new award.

Each has submitted a form letter to the commission stating their support for existing award conditions and penalty rates for their employees.

It is understood some club boards have committed to maintaining penalty rates for employees regardless of the outcome of the FWC case.

Union Voice estimates the Clubs Australia application would cost a level-six cook earning $24 an hour about $96 if they worked both days of a weekend. It says the award shift would affect the weekend wages of 1500 permanent full-time and part-time club staff in the Hunter.

Cr Nelmes called on Hunter clubs to join United Voice’s “good clubs” campaign, which recognises clubs for publicly supporting staff conditions and seeks to shame those that do not.

“I stand with our local clubs workers who do not deserve to have their penalty rates cut,” she said.

“I call on all our local clubs across the region to reflect on the right thing to do in this situation and actively join the ‘good clubs’ national campaign.”

Clubs Australia’s application to the FWC argued that licensed clubs were similar to establishments covered by the hospitality award.

“The clubs should not be placed at a cost disadvantage in comparison to other hospitality establishments based on higher employment costs contained in the Clubs Award in comparison to the Hospitality Award,” it said in a submission last year.

The next hearings on the matter begin on October 29.
United Voice’s list of “good clubs” in the Hunter

Cardiff Bowling Club, Club Macquarie; Denman RSL; Dora Creek Workers Club; Fingal Bay Bowls, Sports & Recreation Club; Kotara Bowling Club; Newcastle Leagues Club; Rathmines Bowling Club; Singleton Diggers; Teralba Bowling Club; Toronto District Workers Club; Wangi Wangi RSL; West Wallsend Workers Club; Weston District Workers Club; Windale-Gateshead Bowling Club

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7986 melbourne Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #1 - Oct 13^th, 2018 at 6:58am People that work weekends and public holidays should get paid the penalty rates. They should not have been cut in the first place.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #2 - Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm penalty rates costs jobs
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Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates
Reply #3 - Oct 13^th, 2018 at 11:37pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm:

penalty rates costs jobs

**falls about laughing.... we've had proper penalty rates for years here in REALITYWORLD, as opposed to SLUMSVILLE and POVERTYZONE...

We live HERE... and costs of living dictate that we earn enough to live HERE - not 'there' - wherever that may be. Let the walking dead bury their dead in foreign soils - our duty is to the living......those living HERE.

Get with it or get out!

Hang 'em and hang 'em high!

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Reply #4 - Oct 13^th, 2018 at 11:43pm

whiteknight wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 6:23am:

October 11 2018 Newcastle Herald
Newcastle lord mayor Nuatali Nelmes joins fight to protect club workers' weekend penalties

Newcastle lord mayor Nuatali Nelmes has joined a campaign to stop peak body Clubs Australia cutting weekend penalty rates for licensed clubs employees.

Clubs Australia is facing a rebellion from some of its 6500 member clubs after applying last year to the Fair Work Commission to abolish the Registered and Licensed Clubs Award and move employees to the Hospitality Industry Award.

The commission cut penalty rates for the hospitality award in February. Sad

Club Macquarie, Newcastle Leagues Club, Denman RSL, Wangi RSL and Kotara Bowling Club are among 14 Hunter clubs which have joined a campaign by union group United Voice against the new award.

Each has submitted a form letter to the commission stating their support for existing award conditions and penalty rates for their employees.

It is understood some club boards have committed to maintaining penalty rates for employees regardless of the outcome of the FWC case.

Union Voice estimates the Clubs Australia application would cost a level-six cook earning $24 an hour about $96 if they worked both days of a weekend. It says the award shift would affect the weekend wages of 1500 permanent full-time and part-time club staff in the Hunter.

Cr Nelmes called on Hunter clubs to join United Voice’s “good clubs” campaign, which recognises clubs for publicly supporting staff conditions and seeks to shame those that do not.

“I stand with our local clubs workers who do not deserve to have their penalty rates cut,” she said.

“I call on all our local clubs across the region to reflect on the right thing to do in this situation and actively join the ‘good clubs’ national campaign.”

Clubs Australia’s application to the FWC argued that licensed clubs were similar to establishments covered by the hospitality award.

“The clubs should not be placed at a cost disadvantage in comparison to other hospitality establishments based on higher employment costs contained in the Clubs Award in comparison to the Hospitality Award,” it said in a submission last year.

The next hearings on the matter begin on October 29.
United Voice’s list of “good clubs” in the Hunter

Cardiff Bowling Club, Club Macquarie; Denman RSL; Dora Creek Workers Club; Fingal Bay Bowls, Sports & Recreation Club; Kotara Bowling Club; Newcastle Leagues Club; Rathmines Bowling Club; Singleton Diggers; Teralba Bowling Club; Toronto District Workers Club; Wangi Wangi RSL; West Wallsend Workers Club; Weston District Workers Club; Windale-Gateshead Bowling Club

I grew up in rebellious Newcastle - the graveyard of touring Rugby League teams... a former Lady Mayoress was the daughter of a workmate of my father in the Fire Brigade there ..... who the hell is this strange-named person in the seat now?

Thank god for Newcastle!!! And the Hunter Valley ... they KNOW what is needed!!

Join the fight, brothers and sisters! It has just begun and I can promise you nothing but blood, sweat and tears..... but we WILL triumph!

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30026 Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #5 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 1:10pm Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm: penalty rates costs jobs so how else are the punters going to pay you enough rent to pay off your investment properties ?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83432 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #6 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 1:11pm Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 1:10pm: Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm: penalty rates costs jobs so how else are the punters going to pay you enough rent to pay off your investment properties ? Exaccery!
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #7 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 2:28pm Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 1:10pm: Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm: penalty rates costs jobs so how else are the punters going to pay you enough rent to pay off your investment properties ? ...same way as everyone else
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Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates
Reply #8 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 2:44pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm:

penalty rates costs jobs

so how else are the punters going to pay you enough rent to pay off your investment properties ?

...same way as everyone else

Ten to a room - no problem... couple of old containers out the back, hook up an electrical cable from the back of the house, sling in a couple of old mattresses..... $500 a week in Sydney CBD and hand over your passport at the door ... plus power costs... throw in a bag of rice once a week and Mao's Yer Uncle!

Let's turn Sydney into a mirror image of Honkers - high rise to the max, washing on the railings to dry, the rich in gated suburbs with guards ..... import houseboys and housegirls from The Philippines at 1/10 the going rate..... it's all good!!

Once it all settles in, we can organise the Mogishu standards, with a few warlords taking all the food and such and using it to control everyone else...

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Reply #9 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 2:52pm

I worked shift work for many years and I know just how hard that is.

People working unsociable hours deserve some extra compensation.

However, what annoys me is the amount of lies coming out of all political parties.

For example ... Labor claims that they will "restore penalty rates" ... implication? Penalty rates have been removed. Not true, they were reduced by 10% to 15%

The other lie that keeps coming is that the current government has "cut education funding".

No, it has not.

True, Labor wants to spend a lot more than the current government does, but it is a lie that they have cut funding.

By all means state that your party will spend more, but don't lie about the other side. They are increasing spending, not cutting it. They may well not be spending as much as your side promises to spend, but please Labor Party... stop lying about it.

It really pisses me off.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #10 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 2:54pm ......wow I wonder how anyone on a standard rate survives?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135851 Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #11 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 3:17pm Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm: penalty rates costs jobs Shown over and over again to be complete nonsense.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Lord Mayor Joins Fight To Protect Penalty Rates Reply #12 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 3:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 3:17pm: Swagman wrote on Oct 13^th, 2018 at 10:56pm: penalty rates costs jobs Shown over and over again to be complete nonsense. .....only to ostriches
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