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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 5:49pm:
Come on TD what are you training in.....!!

Come on spit it out dude..... Smiley

I think captain caveman does krav maga.


Did. Judo as a kid cos there was a good club down the road. It was really good, got into a fight with a slightly older and much stronger bully. He grabbed me and we went to ground and I pinned him. Made the guy concede defeat, he struggled a lot but I actually remembered my training specifically in that hold and I kept side control unit he fatigued and gave up. I was so amazed and proud I used skill to beat him. We stood up and I graciously put my hand out to shake hands and he punched 4 times in the face and broke my nose and he ran off. I was outraged he did that after I won. Went and told my instructor that judo is incomplete like I was an adult. Years later a work crew was hostile toward new crews, you don't need details, and this guy attacked me on the job. I wasn't expecting it. He had a safety harness on and amazingly I grabbed the harness like it was judo and threw the guy so hard on the cement he tried hard to get up but couldn't. The boss walked in at that point and sacked the guy on the spot as he tried same on other guys. I was amazed I remembered that throw instantly and under extreme pressure 20+ years since I last did judo as a pre teen. Wish my old instructor was around to thank him.

Then joined karate and boxing clubs, got so bored with karate all standing in lines doing repetitive movements and pretend sparsring like I kick punch you block then swap over. They always wanted more money for fake weapons and crap so I quiet and did boxing. I loved boxing first night I got put in with an experienced guy and was told to fight. I fought like a maniac and never landed a punch and the guy hit me whenever he felt like it. He made it hurt but not so hard to knockout or injure. I was only white guy. I went every night for years and had a bunch of fights titles etc.

Got jobs and girls and stopped boxing for decades then had another bunch of fights and coached guys until I was 45.

Lastly mma started and some young guys asked me for striking training so I started a gym with them and they taught me basic wrestling bjj and kicks.

I realised  I am born to wrestle really as I picked it up quick and I have good natural leverages for it. Wish I had somewhere to learn it when I was young but there were no clubs.

These days I privately do self protection with and against weapons, sticks knives etc. It's just survival stuff no real style. About 3 of us different ages and backgrounds meet up occasionally and just experiment with knife defence, ranged weapons, escapes,  high impact and run away stuff. It's cool, lots of randoms blow in and out, some bring knowledge, some test themselves, some are trying to prove stuff. That's my entire history on it.
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Reply #16 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 6:14pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 5:49pm:
Come on TD what are you training in.....!!

Come on spit it out dude..... Smiley

I think captain caveman does krav maga.


Did. Judo as a kid cos there was a good club down the road. It was really good, got into a fight with a slightly older and much stronger bully. He grabbed me and we went to ground and I pinned him. Made the guy concede defeat, he struggled a lot but I actually remembered my training specifically in that hold and I kept side control unit he fatigued and gave up. I was so amazed and proud I used skill to beat him. We stood up and I graciously put my hand out to shake hands and he punched 4 times in the face and broke my nose and he ran off. I was outraged he did that after I won. Went and told my instructor that judo is incomplete like I was an adult. Years later a work crew was hostile toward new crews, you don't need details, and this guy attacked me on the job. I wasn't expecting it. He had a safety harness on and amazingly I grabbed the harness like it was judo and threw the guy so hard on the cement he tried hard to get up but couldn't. The boss walked in at that point and sacked the guy on the spot as he tried same on other guys. I was amazed I remembered that throw instantly and under extreme pressure 20+ years since I last did judo as a pre teen. Wish my old instructor was around to thank him.

Then joined karate and boxing clubs, got so bored with karate all standing in lines doing repetitive movements and pretend sparsring like I kick punch you block then swap over. They always wanted more money for fake weapons and crap so I quiet and did boxing. I loved boxing first night I got put in with an experienced guy and was told to fight. I fought like a maniac and never landed a punch and the guy hit me whenever he felt like it. He made it hurt but not so hard to knockout or injure. I was only white guy. I went every night for years and had a bunch of fights titles etc.

Got jobs and girls and stopped boxing for decades then had another bunch of fights and coached guys until I was 45.

Lastly mma started and some young guys asked me for striking training so I started a gym with them and they taught me basic wrestling bjj and kicks.

I realised  I am born to wrestle really as I picked it up quick and I have good natural leverages for it. Wish I had somewhere to learn it when I was young but there were no clubs.

These days I privately do self protection with and against weapons, sticks knives etc. It's just survival stuff no real style. About 3 of us different ages and backgrounds meet up occasionally and just experiment with knife defence, ranged weapons, escapes,  high impact and run away stuff. It's cool, lots of randoms blow in and out, some bring knowledge, some test themselves, some are trying to prove stuff. That's my entire history on it.


Hey TD well done, judo is one of the best grappling arts going around, but like karate takes some time, I think the judoka have a saying goes something like this

10 years standing

1 year ground.

Sounds like you’re into reality based self defence (RBSD) have gone to a few of those seminars well worth the effort they have stuff in there that you can’t always get from traditional MA.

Any physical activity is good keeps you fit and healthy and hopefully you will never have to use.

Keep the good work up.

Some RBSD below.



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Reply #17 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:23am
 
The great thing about martial art is that its an expression of one's self through physical display.  If you believe that martial art should be pretentious, a gimmick, then as you do it, your moves would show it.   And I have seen no shortage of (mostly young men), showing up their fly kicks.   Are they right or wrong, there is no answer just for the moves per se.  Its how they use it.  If they use it to improve their physical and mental fitness, helping others, then to me it represent good.   If they use it to hurt others, then no matter how flashy the moves are, they are bad. 

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Reply #18 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:17am
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 5:49pm:
Come on TD what are you training in.....!!

Come on spit it out dude..... Smiley

I think captain caveman does krav maga.



Yes I do.
Krav gives me what I need in defence. I have only trained in the defence aspect There are many more facits to learn.
I boxed for years and still train in my shed every week. It is a fitness thing for me. I do not fight for trophies or accolades. Purely fitness and self control. People laugh when you say boxing is diciplin. It is.
Krav then allows you to enhance those skills in a self defence mechanism. Judo, Aikido, karate....it's all used. Always advancing forward, using your surroundings, striking vitals and moving in such a way you disarm and neutralise before seriously harming your opponent or potential threat. Basically very controlled street fighting. There are no rules in the street like there is in the ring. Every circumstance is different.

I still have a long way to go and of late with kids and work life etc it is hard finding time but as my children come of age we will get back into it again.
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Reply #19 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:24am
 
I think many people don't realise what the word MARTIAL means in martial arts.
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Reply #20 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:38am
 
Good thread guys ...  one thing I can take away from it is all who have posted here now confirms for me the way in which you post comments in other threads, with a self assurance and confidence that comes from the study of MA.

I started Tai Chi Chuan at 17 ... at 19 progressed to Ba Gua Zhang (Earl Montague - Tai Chi Boxing Association of Aust) which included several other complimentary disciplines  such as Savate, Kendo, Wing Chun plus a plethora of short/long stick and weapons training.

Of late I've been doing the odd bit with a Shotokan Karate dojo ... the sensei is my fathers best mate so I get these incredibly intense one on one training sessions unlike the average student gets to have. Having a blast because its been a few years since I've trained at all and what's even better is sensei values my past discipline experience and keenly learns what he can from me given the opportunity. He's no spring chicken,  he's 68 and started karate as an 8yr old ... a true master of his discipline.

The only thing we don't do is any kind of head striking, even with head gear on as I have epilepsy from a head injury, I seizure most days as it is so I certainly don't need any hard triggers to set seizures off ... but we'll belt the crap out of each other (within reason) below the neck all in the name of great, friendly combat.  Smiley

I do like the look of BJJ however I also have advanced OA of the spine which I've been told by my local BJJ Instructor is probably not the best thing to have when grappling and getting tied up in knots ... something I can enjoy from the sidelines at least.

Anyway guys,  keep on keeping on and staying strong of body and mind ... but I'm preaching to the converted. Wink

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Reply #21 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 10:05am
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:24am:
I think many people don't realise what the word MARTIAL means in martial arts.


Certainly not to holler for a battery ... with a little poetic license   Grin
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Reply #22 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:56pm
 
fezz wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:38am:
Good thread guys ...  one thing I can take away from it is all who have posted here now confirms for me the way in which you post comments in other threads, with a self assurance and confidence that comes from the study of MA.

I started Tai Chi Chuan at 17 ... at 19 progressed to Ba Gua Zhang (Earl Montague - Tai Chi Boxing Association of Aust) which included several other complimentary disciplines  such as Savate, Kendo, Wing Chun plus a plethora of short/long stick and weapons training.

Of late I've been doing the odd bit with a Shotokan Karate dojo ... the sensei is my fathers best mate so I get these incredibly intense one on one training sessions unlike the average student gets to have. Having a blast because its been a few years since I've trained at all and what's even better is sensei values my past discipline experience and keenly learns what he can from me given the opportunity. He's no spring chicken,  he's 68 and started karate as an 8yr old ... a true master of his discipline.

The only thing we don't do is any kind of head striking, even with head gear on as I have epilepsy from a head injury, I seizure most days as it is so I certainly don't need any hard triggers to set seizures off ... but we'll belt the crap out of each other (within reason) below the neck all in the name of great, friendly combat.  Smiley

I do like the look of BJJ however I also have advanced OA of the spine which I've been told by my local BJJ Instructor is probably not the best thing to have when grappling and getting tied up in knots ... something I can enjoy from the sidelines at least.

Anyway guys,  keep on keeping on and staying strong of body and mind ... but I'm preaching to the converted. Wink




Gday fezz (is your name inspired from the 60s show fezz??? Love that bloke)
That is great that you still get in and and train mate. Seizures every day would be really hard personally to cope with let alone having arthritis in the spine. And your contact sparing. That is a massive show of strength and dedication right there. Good on you.
Can I ask, is the head injury from fighting?





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Reply #23 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:10am
 
I should add that when fighting people with Martial Arts training, their 'mentality' is always somewhere far away in Asia. In fact, they think like an Asian and if you walk around Australia - you'll see the little yellow people and how mentally 'stoopid' they are trying to live here.

I laugh at Martial Arts trained people and how they act as if they are 'mentally' trained ...but really, they get their heads punched back to Asia.  Grin
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #24 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:21am
 
These karate meatheads know nothing of 'Marital' Arts as they spend their time bashing other men unconscious and getting bashed unconscious themselves by other men.

That explains a lot of their nonsensical blather on Ozpolitic.

In one string, self-professed black belt holder Valkie was boasting about carrying a concealed knife and hoping he would one day get to stab another person with it.
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Reply #25 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:27am
 
I hate fighting.

I never see the sense of Men wanting to touch other men.
Seems so 'gay' to me, that they want to 'touch' each other up.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:12am
 
Like most humans in any facit of life, if you're not good at it, can't show commitment, can't handle the pain you'll bag the crap out of it. Probably overweight or at least in the upper BMI range too.

Fighting is part of the animal kingdom. Don't care if you can't stand it. It is the grass roots to survival for humans. You want to deny you're an animal....that is okay. You're just brainwashed by figureheads into believing you are the superior being on this planet yet you're nothing but a slave, a minion, and most animals would kill you in a one on one.
Fighting has protected your sorry arses for centuries.
Cowering behind a rock shouting obscenities is not a show of strength in any human.
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Reply #27 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 9:16am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:12am:
Probably overweight or at least in the upper BMI range too.
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You mean like the Rock?
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Reply #28 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 9:32am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 9:16am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:12am:
Probably overweight or at least in the upper BMI range too.
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You mean like the Rock?



The rock is a fighter. So no.
I mean like Norm from the life be in it adds.

Do you think you're clever or something with that post?
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Reply #29 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 8:39am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:56pm:
fezz wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:38am:
Good thread guys ...  one thing I can take away from it is all who have posted here now confirms for me the way in which you post comments in other threads, with a self assurance and confidence that comes from the study of MA.

I started Tai Chi Chuan at 17 ... at 19 progressed to Ba Gua Zhang (Earl Montague - Tai Chi Boxing Association of Aust) which included several other complimentary disciplines  such as Savate, Kendo, Wing Chun plus a plethora of short/long stick and weapons training.

Of late I've been doing the odd bit with a Shotokan Karate dojo ... the sensei is my fathers best mate so I get these incredibly intense one on one training sessions unlike the average student gets to have. Having a blast because its been a few years since I've trained at all and what's even better is sensei values my past discipline experience and keenly learns what he can from me given the opportunity. He's no spring chicken,  he's 68 and started karate as an 8yr old ... a true master of his discipline.

The only thing we don't do is any kind of head striking, even with head gear on as I have epilepsy from a head injury, I seizure most days as it is so I certainly don't need any hard triggers to set seizures off ... but we'll belt the crap out of each other (within reason) below the neck all in the name of great, friendly combat.  Smiley

I do like the look of BJJ however I also have advanced OA of the spine which I've been told by my local BJJ Instructor is probably not the best thing to have when grappling and getting tied up in knots ... something I can enjoy from the sidelines at least.

Anyway guys,  keep on keeping on and staying strong of body and mind ... but I'm preaching to the converted. Wink




Gday fezz (is your name inspired from the 60s show fezz??? Love that bloke)
That is great that you still get in and and train mate. Seizures every day would be really hard personally to cope with let alone having arthritis in the spine. And your contact sparing. That is a massive show of strength and dedication right there. Good on you.
Can I ask, is the head injury from fighting?







fezz is a shortening of a nickname I was given at 17, naturally got shorter over the years ... how aussie is that!
Lucky for me I was born with a glass half full in my hand.
The head injury is getting hit on the right temporal lobe by my surfboards rail while surfing a solid 6' point break in WA.

Bit slow on the reply because I've just broken my left radius and ulna  Shocked

I'll have to check out old mate fezz from the show you speak of, you've peaked my interest.
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