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Reply #1800 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 1:05am

So, you got nothing!

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There is a lack of consensus on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or four deaths due to gun violence, although an Australian study from 2006 prescribed a minimum of five; and added a requirement that the victims actually died as opposed to being shot and injured but not necessarily killed.Wikipedia

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Reply #1801 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:45am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 1:00am:

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 12:27am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 11:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 1:13pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 12:13am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 4:59am:

All those guns in America and only the Africans and Mexicans are using them.

Only they are using their guns on each other, we use ours responsibly!

Depends if you consider school and other massacres as "responsible", Mort... Roll Eyes

Maybe you haven't noticed but without the Media to make an international sensation out of the shooters there haven't been any in quite a while. Without attention they lose their motivation!

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haven't been any in quite a while.

We have had about 10 weeks this year and 13 school shootings ?

WOW that's quite a while.

Is that one shooting about every 4 days ?

It isn't that there is nothing to report, it happens so often that it is considered normal and not worth reporting.

You have, where?

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/...

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2 Were in High School Classroom When Wounded in Miami Gardens Shooting
Two 18-year-olds and a 17-year-old arrested in shooting that left two other teens hospitalized
10 Mar 2022

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Des Moines mourns ‘dark day’ after 1 teenager dies, 2 in critical condition from shooting near East High School
Andrea May Sahouri
Des Moines Register 7 Mar 2022

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Student charged in Kansas school shooting that wounded 2

6 Mar 2022

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Teen arrested in school stabbbing; 3rd victim comes forward
Feb 12 2022

RICHFIELD, Minn. (WCCO) – Two teenagers have been identified and arrested after a student was shot and killed outside a Richfield school and two others we.
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Student, 16, Shot In Catonsville High School Parking Lot, Police Say
Feb 8 2022

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Four teenage girls and one woman were shot on the grounds of Rufus King High School Tuesday evening Feb 2 2022

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RICHFIELD, Minn. (WCCO) – Two teenagers have been identified and arrested after a student was shot and killed outside a Richfield school and two others were injured on Tuesday afternoon. Now, charges are expected Friday. Feb 2 2022

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These, if true, were merely all individual shooting, & I wouldn't be surprised if most....if not all....were gang related.....Black/Hispanic on Black/Hispanic Crime......Schools need to do a better job regarding security, & especially in screening anyone who enters the school grounds for weapons.

Bottom line, no need for new laws, or banning Semi-Automatic firearms.

Enforcing existing laws, & better security measures probably would be the best call.........

No need whatsoever for any Law-Abiding American Gun Owners to forfeit their God given Right to Self-Defense....their Constitutional Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....or any other Rights affirmed & guaranteed them by the Law of the Land....the US Constitution.

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Reply #1803 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 12:12pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/g-_9LtKM213Vq3GQte-m7PhfApU=/650x0/filters:no_ups...

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You need to add a little more to the conversation, Brian. Wayne has made the NRA irrelevant and no one pays attention to it. We have no shortage of people and organizations to stand up for us! He has just made the GOA and State organizations more powerful because our support goes to those who support us.

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Reply #1804 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:15pm

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 1:05am:

So, you got nothing!

Mass shooting
There is a lack of consensus on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or four deaths due to gun violence, although an Australian study from 2006 prescribed a minimum of five; and added a requirement that the victims actually died as opposed to being shot and injured but not necessarily killed.Wikipedia

Simon Chapman is a gun grabber here he changed the definition of mass shooting to 5 or more killed not including offender.

Of course when the bed wetting Australian hoplophobes mention mass shootings in the US they're totally dishonest with using 2 different definitions for mass shootings to compare countries.

Mother Jones is a leftist group they say 127 mass shootings in the US from 1982-2022.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-da...

How many can we rule of of those 127 mass shootings if we use our definition of 5 or more killed?

The gun grabbers are totally dishonest with statistics.

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Reply #1805 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:37pm

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 12:12pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/g-_9LtKM213Vq3GQte-m7PhfApU=/650x0/filters:no_ups...

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You need to add a little more to the conversation, Brian. Wayne has made the NRA irrelevant and no one pays attention to it. We have no shortage of people and organizations to stand up for us! He has just made the GOA and State organizations more powerful because our support goes to those who support us.

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Reply #1806 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:57pm

I won't quibble too much about your percussion rifle because they were still using flintlocks at the time. However I will state that the Americans had rifled barrel hunting rifles where the British used smooth bore muskets. That being noted at that time the Civilians seem to have been better armed then the Military. Using that as an example we should be equipped with arms comparable to todays military if not better!

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Reply #1807 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 10:57pm

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:57pm:

I won't quibble too much about your percussion rifle because they were still using flintlocks at the time. However I will state that the Americans had rifled barrel hunting rifles where the British used smooth bore muskets. That being noted at that time the Civilians seem to have been better armed then the Military. Using that as an example we should be equipped with arms comparable to todays military if not better!

The intent of the Founding Fathers that all Americans possess, as a last resort, the ability to cast off a tyrannical government, & replace it with one of their own making. To do that, being armed with weapons equal to, or superior than the opposition. That was the intent of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, as affirmed by our Founding Fathers. Debates among the Founders regarding the Second Amendment prior to it's passage, attest to this fact, & their intent was crystal clear.

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Reply #1809 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 11:32am

Mortdooley wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 1:05am:

So, you got nothing!

Mass shooting
There is a lack of consensus on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or four deaths due to gun violence, although an Australian study from 2006 prescribed a minimum of five; and added a requirement that the victims actually died as opposed to being shot and injured but not necessarily killed.Wikipedia

It was mass shooting / school shootings ?

You think school shootings are ok as long as they are not mass shootings. About what you would expect from the gun lobby, just pick them off one or two at a time to stay under the radar and all is ok its not really a crime just thinning the heard ?

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Reply #1810 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 3:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 11:32am:

It was mass shooting / school shootings ?

You think school shootings are ok as long as they are not mass shootings.

Murder is a crime......

It's a crime no matter where the crime is committed. The criminal is responsible, not the weapon.....the weapon didn't commit the crime......

If someone stabs & kills someone in a 7-11 in Miami Florida, or in New Your Public School #256 in Brooklyn New York.....they are both Crimes, committed by criminals.....where they were committed is totally immaterial......murders are illegal no matter where committed, or by what means, or how old the victim(s) were, be they murdered by hammer, ice pick, gun, knife, fists, arson, automobile, or poison.....

The Leftists like murders if they are committed near or in 'schools', & if the criminal used a gun, simply because when the general public hears 'schools' immediately they think ..... OMG those poor young little 'school' children, & because it better fits their agenda.....makes it sound more horrific.....they get more political traction.....you know, petrified sobbing mothers, screaming uncontrollable classmates.....

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11316 Gender:	Re: ⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜ Reply #1812 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 3:39pm .. The Right.......The Right of the AMERICAN People...... You have NO AMERICAN RIGHTS Bwian.....want a right Bwian, see your Parliament, but don't hold yer breath.
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Reply #1814 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 3:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

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The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution affirms, defends, & protects an American Citizen's Right to Keep & Bear Arms to use in Self-Defense.....of himself/herself, their loved ones, & friends.

* In America Murder is illegal.

* Attempting to murder is illegal.

* A criminal felon possessing, attempting to purchase, or in any way owning a firearm is illegal.

* It is illegal for a person with a diagnosed violent form of mental illness to possess, attempt to purchase, or in any way own a firearm.

* Shooting & killing people indiscriminately is illegal.

* Using firearms in any criminal manner is illegal.

Criminal Statutes says murder is a crime.

Murder is murder.......

The murder statute cares not how old the victim was, it only means something to those that have a political agenda, like yourself BWIAN, that politically benefits more if there are dead children, as opposed to dead middle aged males......

Furthermore, the criminal who commits the crime is guilty of the crime.......the weapon is only the mechanism used by the criminal to commit the crime......the Mechanism is only an object .....the object used by the criminal to commit the crime.....the Mechanism is not guilty of anything.

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