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⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜ (Read 128528 times)
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Reply #2040 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:46pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 4:53pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 3:22pm:
...Why are the majority of US cities safer than our own Alice Springs?

They're not.  There're no statistics supporting this claim.




It amazes me that they "think" they can get away with these lies.

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Reply #2041 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:55pm
 
Perth has the highest suicide rate in the world.
The streets are empty, people are dying of boredom.
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Reply #2042 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:57pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Perth has the highest suicide rate in the world.
The streets are empty, people are dying of boredom.


They should visit Clarkson.

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Reply #2043 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:59pm
 
Perth is so boring.
Even the immigrants from South Africa stick together despite their racial differences because they are so afraid of getting bored.
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Reply #2044 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:01am
 
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Reply #2045 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
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Reply #2046 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:56am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:39pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:15pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 4:53pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 3:22pm:
...Why are the majority of US cities safer than our own Alice Springs?

They're not.  There're no statistics supporting this claim.


Alice Springs, population 25,000, crime rate 473/ 100,000 population.


From your source, Soren:
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Crime Wave Misconception: Not all offenses in Alice Springs are part of a “crime wave”;


Not all crimes are violent, either:
Crime Category              Alice Springs (per 100,000 people)      
Overall Crime Rate      473.1      
Violent Crime              222.5      
– Assault                      145.6      
– Robbery                        38.5      
Property Crime              234.5      
– Break-ins              149.3      
– Theft                        70.1      
Motor Vehicle Theft        15.1

Source




Show us an American city with a comparable populatin and crime rate, bbwian.

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Reply #2047 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:58am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 5:46pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 4:53pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 3:22pm:
...Why are the majority of US cities safer than our own Alice Springs?

They're not.  There're no statistics supporting this claim.




It amazes me that they "think" they can get away with these lies.




More lies for your edification.
“ In the Northern territories, there has been a ban on alcohol since 2007. The government took these measures to reduce alcohol-related crimes. However, in recent years the ban was lifted.

The change promoted the use and trading of alcohol across all northern territories, including Alice Springs. Citizens speculate that various communities are now at risk of being victims of criminals’ more intense violent behaviour.

The validity of legal protection granted to these people and the restraining orders given to drunkard criminals are now also at stake. Moreover, the results of lifting these bans have become quite pronounced in the dangerous city of Alice Springs.

In 2022, the crime index of vandalism, break-ins, and theft increased, making Alice Springs the most dangerous city in Australia. According to the crime statistics agency, more than a https://soho.com.au/articles/alice-springs-takes-the-crown-most-dangerous-city-i
n-australia,50% rise is observed in different offenses”
[url] https://soho.com.au/articles/alice-springs-takes-the-crown-most-dangerous-city-i
n-australia#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20crime%20index,is%20observed%20in%20diff
erent%20offenses.[/url]
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Re: ⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜
Reply #2048 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:02pm
 
Alice Springs was rated the 19thmost violent city in the world.

Plus,
“ Domestic violence-related assaults spiked even higher, up 65 per cent. Alcohol-related assaults were up 68 per cent.
There were 1886 reported instances of domestic violence, and 1521 assaults related to alcohol.
Property damage was up 55 per cent, and commercial break-ins were up 47 per cent”
https://www.9news.com.au/national/alice-springs-crime-statistics-revealed-police...
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Reply #2049 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Utter bull, firearm laws in the US are more numerous than any represented in your repetitive posts.
“ It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.

But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
[url] https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firea
rms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/[/url]
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Reply #2050 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:32pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Utter bull, firearm laws in the US are more numerous than any represented in your repetitive posts.
“ It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.

But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
[url] https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firea
rms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/[/url]



Funny, we're told there are no regulation of firearms in America all the time, Eugene.  Are you and Pantcher and Baron lying?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Now tell us what regulations require the registration of a firearm and a user?  What regulations require the safe storage of firearm?  What regulations require semi-Automatics to be surrendered?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Cool Cool
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Reply #2051 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:32pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Utter bull, firearm laws in the US are more numerous than any represented in your repetitive posts.
“ It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.

But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
[url] https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firea
rms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/[/url]



Funny, we're told there are no regulation of firearms in America all the time, Eugene.  Are you and Pantcher and Baron lying?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Now tell us what regulations require the registration of a firearm and a user?  What regulations require the safe storage of firearm?  What regulations require semi-Automatics to be surrendered?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Cool Cool

Regulated is the operative word in your misleading picture.
I have never said that the US doesn’t have gun laws; is that something that you made up, like the extra long bayonets of the Australian Light Horse?
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Reply #2052 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:47pm
 
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Reply #2053 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 1:25pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:32pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Utter bull, firearm laws in the US are more numerous than any represented in your repetitive posts.
“ It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.

But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
[url] https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firea
rms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/[/url]



Funny, we're told there are no regulation of firearms in America all the time, Eugene.  Are you and Pantcher and Baron lying?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Now tell us what regulations require the registration of a firearm and a user?  What regulations require the safe storage of firearm?  What regulations require semi-Automatics to be surrendered?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Cool Cool

Regulated is the operative word in your misleading picture.
I have never said that the US doesn’t have gun laws; is that something that you made up, like the extra long bayonets of the Australian Light Horse?


So you and Panther and the Baron are lying then Eugene?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2054 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 1:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 1:25pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:32pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Utter bull, firearm laws in the US are more numerous than any represented in your repetitive posts.
“ It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.

But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
[url] https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firea
rms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/[/url]



Funny, we're told there are no regulation of firearms in America all the time, Eugene.  Are you and Pantcher and Baron lying?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Now tell us what regulations require the registration of a firearm and a user?  What regulations require the safe storage of firearm?  What regulations require semi-Automatics to be surrendered?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Cool Cool

Regulated is the operative word in your misleading picture.
I have never said that the US doesn’t have gun laws; is that something that you made up, like the extra long bayonets of the Australian Light Horse?


So you and Panther and the Baron are lying then Eugene?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are the only one lying, cockwomble.


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