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Reply #465 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 9:36am

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

Congratulations Richdude by stating Agenda 21 you have reached peak CT crazy

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Reply #466 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:49pm

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

So, you'd have Government condone criminals - after all, they refuse to consent to be governed by the laws of democratically elected governments, Richdude, now don't they?

You appear to have real problems with the concepts of democracy, Richdude. Governments are elected to govern for all citizens - those that voted for them and those that didn't. There is no "get out of gaol - free" card in democracies. You're preaching anarchy, not reality.

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The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

That's life. You're assuming that "large section of law-abiding citizens" will not obey the laws, as passed by a democratically elected government in a democratically elected Parliament. That is not how democracies work, Richdude. Time you caught up with real life, not your imagined fantasies.

I can just see it now, when a speeding motorist is pulled over by the police, "Dude, I don't recognise the laws that have criminalised my speed. I do not accept the legislation that made it illegal to speed through this school zone." I can just imagine how his defence will go down in court. Roll Eyes

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If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

So you would fantasise. In reality, it would more than likely pass. There will be a chance for your fellow gun nuts to vote the existing NZ Government out of power at the next election, Richdude but I don't think it will be happening. Not everyone in NZ owns a semi-automatic longarm... Roll Eyes

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This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

The people of the respective nations voted for them, Richdude. People who obviously disagree with your views. Get used to it. America is the only place that recognises gun ownership as a "right". Funny that, you're the odd man out here, you realise that? Roll Eyes

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Reply #467 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 9:36am:

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

Congratulations Richdude by stating Agenda 21 you have reached peak CT crazy

No! Its all there as I have provided. If you don't wish to read that is your problem.

A conspiracy theory is valid until it becomes fact!

Do try to keep up in your drugged out stupor Horsy.

The rest of us have moved on and live no more in insane denial of reality. Be at peace!

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: ⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜ Reply #468 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:10pm Actually until it becomes fact its a hypothesis.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136594 Gender:	Re: ⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜ Reply #469 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:25pm Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:10pm: A conspiracy theory is valid until it becomes fact!
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Reply #470 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:06am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

So, you'd have Government condone criminals - after all, they refuse to consent to be governed by the laws of democratically elected governments, Richdude, now don't they?

You appear to have real problems with the concepts of democracy, Richdude. Governments are elected to govern for all citizens - those that voted for them and those that didn't. There is no "get out of gaol - free" card in democracies. You're preaching anarchy, not reality.

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The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

That's life. You're assuming that "large section of law-abiding citizens" will not obey the laws, as passed by a democratically elected government in a democratically elected Parliament. That is not how democracies work, Richdude. Time you caught up with real life, not your imagined fantasies.

I can just see it now, when a speeding motorist is pulled over by the police, "Dude, I don't recognise the laws that have criminalised my speed. I do not accept the legislation that made it illegal to speed through this school zone." I can just imagine how his defence will go down in court. Roll Eyes

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If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

So you would fantasise. In reality, it would more than likely pass. There will be a chance for your fellow gun nuts to vote the existing NZ Government out of power at the next election, Richdude but I don't think it will be happening. Not everyone in NZ owns a semi-automatic longarm... Roll Eyes

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This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

The people of the respective nations voted for them, Richdude. People who obviously disagree with your views. Get used to it. America is the only place that recognises gun ownership as a "right". Funny that, you're the odd man out here, you realise that? Roll Eyes

How do you know how the NZ people would vote in a referendum?

If a section of society strongly disagrees with an attempt to introduce a new law. The way to resolve the issue is to have a referendum. That's democracy. Stalin was elected democratically too.

A true democracy does not punish those that have done no harm. You're threatened by someone owning a semi auto - that's your problem Brian not the gun owners.

1930's in Germany a law was passed to make the ownership of weapons illegal for Jews. How did that turn out?

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Reply #471 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:10am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 9:36am:

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

Congratulations Richdude by stating Agenda 21 you have reached peak CT crazy

This is coming from someone who is habitually wrong about nearly everything.

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Reply #472 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:22am

Richdude wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Richdude wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Brian here is a video about NZ's gun confiscation. Gov thuggery and turning ordinary people into criminals - no due process, no Jury, just "their" opinion. Thats tyranny!

Enjoy!

Don't give up your guns to a bunch of fascist thugs like your bed wetting simpletons across the Tasman did.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Boring, rightwing gun nuttery. The Kiwi Government was elected by the New Zealand people. It is up to the people to decide if the New Zealand Government is right or wrong.

What's the betting the NZLP gets re-elected at the next election, Mmmm? Roll Eyes

To do the will of the people. Not to threaten, intimidate and punish those that will not consent.

The media will never mention that their Government legislation will make criminals of a large section of law abiding citizens.

If NZ is a democracy there should be a referendum on the issue. But of course there won't be because by the time a referendum can be taken heads would have cooled and the Christchurch shootings will be a memory. The referendum would fail!

This drive to ban guns is World wide. Part of the UN's Agenda 21, along with preventing CO2 emissions and cows farting. A New World Order - this is the real insanity. Who voted for these crazies? Don't believe me - check it out.

https://patriotsdefensecorps.weebly.com/the-un-gun-control-and-agenda-21.html

The Topic of this thread is Americans Oppose Gun Bans......Now as a freedom loving American living in Australia, I may or may not agree with all my local or national political policies.....If I agree, life goes on, if I don't I would seek ways of affecting a political solution that might eventually effectuate a change in such policies legally.

I would think, that the NZ population has it's own opinions on their political policies as well, & will do whatever they need to do to ensure their own Freedom & Liberty through reasonable political policy.

In America, if the government tried to do the same as what's happened in NZ, you would see the birth of another Civil War.....this time, one without geographical boundaries.....that is unless the US Supreme Court didn't step in & set the government straight....stating that in no uncertain terms, that their banning actions were completely illegal, in an attempt to stem the tides of a probable bloody insurrection by millions of extremely angry American Citizens/Patriots, whose first order of business I would think, exercising their Right to Rebellion, would be overthrowing the government in Washington DC, if they refused to 'see the light'...

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such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...........

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Reply #474 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:43pm

Richdude wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:06am:

How do you know how the NZ people would vote in a referendum?

An interesting question. See my previous comment about how few Kiwis own semi-automatic long arms, Richdude.

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If a section of society strongly disagrees with an attempt to introduce a new law. The way to resolve the issue is to have a referendum. That's democracy. Stalin was elected democratically too.

No he wasn't. I suggest you acquaint yourself with the history of the fUSSR before making such silly comments in future. Roll Eyes

If a significant section of a democratic society disagrees with a Government's decision to introduce a new law, a referendum might take place but usually, they are ignored and voice their opinion at the next election, Richdude. If a referendum does take place, a smart government words it in a way what only produces a positive to their plans (ref: Australian referendum on Republic).

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A true democracy does not punish those that have done no harm. You're threatened by someone owning a semi auto - that's your problem Brian not the gun owners.

Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur/Hoddle Street/Queen Street/Westfield massacres, Richdude and see how far you get, OK? Roll Eyes

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1930's in Germany a law was passed to make the ownership of weapons illegal for Jews. How did that turn out?

Badly, for the Jews. However Nazi Germany wasn't a democratic state, now was it? How are the Palestinians going in Israel, out of a matter of interest? Doing well under Jewish rule, are they?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: ⮞ ⮞ Americans Oppose Gun Bans ⮜ ⮜ Reply #478 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 1:19pm More propaganda, hey, Panther? Never any substance from you. Tsk, tsk, don't know why you bother posting here, I really don't. You're an American living in exile from America. Why? Did you murder someone?
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