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Reply #751 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm
 
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #752 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

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Reply #753 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:13pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:47pm:
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Reply #754 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:18pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/guns-in-the-home-a-detailed-look-at-the-statisti...


Nothing deadly or dangerous about Australia.
The British protect us from you evil gun-welding war mongering Americans for starters.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #755 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:43pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
Richdude wrote on Apr 6th, 2020 at 6:55am:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 6th, 2020 at 12:43am:
Jasin wrote on Apr 4th, 2020 at 11:42pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4th, 2020 at 11:32pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 4th, 2020 at 11:13pm:
Richdude wrote on Apr 4th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 4th, 2020 at 11:07pm:
Australian Egalitarianism succeeds where Communism has failed.

Don't you get it?


No!


If you're in the USA. You will soon. For your 'International' Crimes.





What international crimes? We should enforce our borders again and end almost all foreign aid! Giving money to people who hate you is just foolish.


Your isolation from the World will be your downfall.
Australia serves the World.
That's why we still keep the Holy Grail on our Flag.
That which you threw away in your War of Independence.




Isolation? We are being overrun from the rest of the world, it seems everyone that wants more opportunity than they can find at home is sneaking into our country in record numbers. In the long run they will kill the goose that laid the golden eggs!

The thing that must be inconceivable is that Right leaning Americans value individuality over cultural identity. The value of the group over the individual may account for other cultures having such a class system. The Mexican people are part of a culture where a strong leader who gives them the rules is what they are happy with. Nineteenth century  farmers are a good example, the Mexicans lived in villages and went to the fields, Americans lived on their farms with their families. When Americans retire many buy property in the country to get away from the cities, many more wish they could. I doubt many of you want that much space or lifestyle.

The Revolutionary War made us the shining example of ingenuity and opportunity that makes us great! Personal freedom should be the life goal of all people. 


The only worthwhile concept in psychology IMO is Maslows "hierarchy of needs".

The apex of the pyramid is "self realization". Only a free enterprise capitalist system can allow that.

Socialism/communism is a step backwards..... into oblivion.




Yet without your idea of socialism to be the safety net of capitalism, especially now, the system would collapse.

Capitalism is the least objectional option, but how it's implemented in the US and AU is about enriching the politicians, furthering their interests and exploiting the people to those ends.

It's not good enough.


I agree Sad!
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Reply #756 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:50pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:18pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/guns-in-the-home-a-detailed-look-at-the-statisti...


Nothing deadly or dangerous about Australia.
The British protect us from you evil gun-welding war mongering Americans for starters.



What an odd statement, why would you think we were a threat to you?
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Reply #757 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 1:25pm
 
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Reply #758 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 1:29pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:50pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:18pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/guns-in-the-home-a-detailed-look-at-the-statisti...


Nothing deadly or dangerous about Australia.
The British protect us from you evil gun-welding war mongering Americans for starters.

What an odd statement, why would you think we were a threat to you?


Is the sky blue?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

How long before you decide to export "truth" "justice" and "democracy (American farce like)" to us downunder?  Mmmmm?  Roll Eyes

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Reply #759 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 12:05am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2020 at 1:29pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:50pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:18pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/guns-in-the-home-a-detailed-look-at-the-statisti...


Nothing deadly or dangerous about Australia.
The British protect us from you evil gun-welding war mongering Americans for starters.

What an odd statement, why would you think we were a threat to you?


Is the sky blue?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

How long before you decide to export "truth" "justice" and "democracy (American farce like)" to us downunder?  Mmmmm?  :Smiley



Good grief!

What a bizarre an ignorant statement!

Brian and a others here support the fact that the left wing suffer greater numbers of mental disorders than the rest of the population.
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Reply #760 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 11:36am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:11pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 11:02pm:
Australians are just jealous because American's face Death in the form of a Gun and live in fear.

Australians don't face death in any shape or form and are peeved that they have to share this Virus with the rest of the world too.



I think everyone here is at least as safe as you are where you live.

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/guns-in-the-home-a-detailed-look-at-the-statisti...


Excellent post Mort.....I think everyone should read it here..... .........





Guns in the Home: A Detailed Look at the Statistics



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There are 32,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. Average U.S. population 324,059,091.

Do the math: 0.00987% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.

Statistically speaking, this is insignificant!

What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 32,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

• 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – gun violence
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths.


So technically, "gun violence" is not 32,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.

Still too many?

Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths?

All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime.

Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?

• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:

• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!
• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers!

So what is the point?

If the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths.

A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.

Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple. Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.



So, do the math: 0.00987% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.

Statistically speaking, this is
insignificant
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Americans will never, ever relinquish their Constitutional Right to Keep & Bear Arms .......PERIOD!!

And no Government, State or Federal, will ever succeed in forcefully confiscating the Peoples  guns ever!! 




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Americans will never honour gun bans


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Coronavirus Crisis: Gun Store Adapts,
Overcomes With Drive-Through Service



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During any prolonged crisis, quirks in human nature cause some businesses to flounder while others flourish. Such is the case with the current Coronavirus pandemic. In recent weeks, the sales of firearms and ammunition have surged nationwide, with manufacturers and retailers enjoying a much-needed boost—their largest in years.

And yet too much of a good thing can still cause problems. For instance, despite recent record gun sales, Fin Feather Fur Outfitters in northern Ohio has closed its chain of six stores until further notice, citing the safety of both its staff and customers to the possibility of COVID-19 exposure.

“I need to make sure that I make the right decision now,” owner Mike Goschinski said in a YouTube video announcing the closures. “And the right decision was, how do I take care of my employees?”

But at least one Ohio gun store—Black Wing Shooting Center—has hit upon a way to stay open, yet do so safely for its staff and customers. Located in central Ohio, Black Wing is a family-owned, full-service, five-star rated shooting facility as determined by the National Shooting Sports Foundation. Mark Gore is the store’s retail manager and came up with their plan.      

“The past few weeks have included some of the busiest days we’ve ever experienced here at Black Wing,” said Gore, “and we’ve been in business for more than two decades. We based our new business model on what restaurants are doing in the way of carry-out orders. Before making our decisions, I personally visited both restaurants and pubs in our area to see how they were operating and handling carry-out customers to limit the Coronavirus risk.”

Black Wing implemented its plan on March 24; how is it going, so far? “All our customers have been super supportive, and we are selling about 75 percent of the product we were selling prior to making the changes,” said Gore, “yet in a much safer way."

Here’s how the process works.

When a customer first pulls into the Black Wing parking lot, he sees signs that read “Open for carry-out Tuesday through Saturday, 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.; please pull forward and read sign.” Once in a parking space, the additional signage reads, “Thank you for coming, please remain in your car and text us at our store phone number (740-363-7555) to let us know you are here.”

Inside the store, an employee humorously known as the designated “air-traffic controller” keeps track of who has arrived, in what order, and is texting back and forth with customers as to what they are interested in purchasing.

A customer remains in his or her vehicle until notified by text that it is their turn to enter the store. Only three customers are allowed in at a time, and the three cash registers at the front of the store are spaced to maintain proper social-distance spacing. In addition, the main portion of the store has been roped off so that customers can’t browse, but if they have an idea of what they want—such as a handgun, for instance—an employee will show them several options, sanitizing each gun before allowing a customer to handle it.

“In the rear of the store is a fourth cash register, where our outdoor-range sales counter is located,” said Gore. “It’s what we have currently designated as our ‘non-gun’ cash register, where we handle smaller orders such as ammunition, shooting accessories or pickup of online sale items…that sort of thing. Those customers pull to the side of our building, enter through the back door one at a time, and we get them on their way more quickly than if purchasing a firearm.”

Gore said it is possible, if a customer prefers, to remain in their vehicle, pay for their purchase remotely, and not have to enter the store at all; an employee will take their item to them in the parking lot. However, Gore added that Black Wing has not yet perfected that system for gun sales, but is working on it.

“For now, we are still having customers come into the store briefly to fill out the needed paperwork for a firearm,” Gore said. “We then ask them to return to their vehicle while the form is being processed. Once the procedure is completed, we then deliver their new firearm to them in the parking lot.”


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Where there is a will, there will always be a way.

Law-Abiding Americans will not be denied the firearms they want, & the market will always find innovative ways of making them happy!




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These are her own words.:

While out hiking in Missoula Montana with my boyfriend, we were surprised when a huge grizzly bear came charging at us out of nowhere. She must have been protecting her cubs because she was extremely aggressive.

If I had not had my little Beretta Jetfire I would not be here today! I yanked it out of my purse and fired one shot. It hit my boyfriend in his kneecap and the bear caught him easily. While the grizzly mauled the poor cripple, I was able to escape by just walking away at a brisk pace.


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Will Coronavirus Fears Lead to an Assault on Gun Rights?


Draconian bills to restrict self-defense rights have a life of their own in Congress. There's always one lurking in the background. Left to its own devices, it's unlikely to become law, but it's ready to be deployed if a high-profile crime or convenient crisis emerges to ease its passage. And that brings us to the Gun Violence Prevention and Community Safety Act of 2020, a far-reaching bill hovering in the legislative shadows as the COVID-19 pandemic breaks down barriers to authoritarian measures.

Introduced in the Senate and the House at the end of January by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) Rep. Hank Johnson (D–Ga.), the bill would impose federal licensing for guns and ammunition, require universal background checks, ban so-called "assault weapons," outlaw normal-capacity magazines, regulate DIY firearms, and otherwise impose the full wish list of restrictions sought by those who would prefer to see an armed government ruling over disarmed subjects.

With its intrusions into rights cherished by much of the population, the proposed law is a recipe for noncompliance, confrontations between people and enforcers, and deepened political divisions. It's also exactly the sort of legislation that is normally dead on arrival. But these aren't normal times. Officials with fever dreams of expanded power thrive on our fear.

"As the coronavirus pandemic brings the world to a juddering halt and anxious citizens demand action, leaders across the globe are invoking executive powers and seizing virtually dictatorial authority with scant resistance," The New York Times warned on March 30.

The restrictions described in the article are wide-ranging, covering everything from detentions to surveillance to censorship. The Department of Justice has floated the idea of indefinite detention, California Gov. Gavin Newsom speculated about the possibility of martial law "if we feel the necessity," D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser wants to arrest anybody who ventures from home for an unapproved reason, and jurisdictions across the country have ordered or considered ordering gun stores—among other "nonessential" businesses—closed for the duration of the crisis.

In selling their gun control bill, Warren and Johnson play on public fears and the desire to be "saved" from unseen perils. In a joint January 30 press release trumpeting their gun bill, Warren and Johnson described a country rife with violence "in homes and on sidewalks, in schools and supermarkets, in places of worship and workplaces." They invoked a false "crisis" involving a made-up "epidemic"—just as a real crisis-sized epidemic was rolling into our lives.

That potent combination of real and overblown crises doesn't mean that the "Gun Violence Prevention and Community Safety Act of 2020" will pass, but it does mean that this is a ripe moment for authoritarian practices of all sorts. It also means that this particular legislative monstrosity is being sold in precisely the most effective way for such a moment.

And pushback isn't important just for self-defense rights; it's a necessary part of a larger effort to put governments on notice. They must stop exploiting our fear to expand their power.

This video is based on a column originally published on April 1.

Written by J.D. Tucille. Voiceover by Katherine Mangu-Ward. Motion graphics by Lex Villena.
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