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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	If race is a social construct how is there racism? Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 12:47pm Explains plz.
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Robot Senior Member Offline Conspirator Posts: 441 Engadine Maccas	Re: If race is a social construct how is there racism? Reply #1 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm Racism is prejudice based on race, which a social construct. "Social construct" doesn't mean "not real".
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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: If race is a social construct how is there racism? Reply #2 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm: Racism is prejudice based on race, which a social construct. "Social construct" doesn't mean "not real". What makes a social construct real if it's just a construct and what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?
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Reply #3 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:02pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm:

Racism is prejudice based on race, which a social construct.

"Social construct" doesn't mean "not real".

What makes a social construct real if it's just a construct and what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

Well, not really "real". The rules of football aren't real; they are just a social construct, an abstract idea. The idea of God exists, but God isn't real; God is just a social construct.

People play football according to the rules of football; people discriminate against others based on pseudoscientific classifications; people burn sacrifices for their imaginary friends.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

What term is the opposite of football?

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Reply #4 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:11pm

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:02pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm:

Racism is prejudice based on race, which a social construct.

"Social construct" doesn't mean "not real".

What makes a social construct real if it's just a construct and what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

Well, not really "real". The rules of football aren't real; they are just a social construct, an abstract idea. The idea of God exists, but God isn't real; God is just a social construct.

People play football according to the rules of football; people discriminate against others based on pseudoscientific classifications; people burn sacrifices for their imaginary friends.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

What term is the opposite of football?

Not football?
Soccer?
NRL?

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Reply #5 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:14pm

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:02pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm:

Racism is prejudice based on race, which a social construct.

"Social construct" doesn't mean "not real".

What makes a social construct real if it's just a construct and what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

Well, not really "real". The rules of football aren't real; they are just a social construct, an abstract idea. The idea of God exists, but God isn't real; God is just a social construct.

People play football according to the rules of football; people discriminate against others based on pseudoscientific classifications; people burn sacrifices for their imaginary friends.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 9:13pm:

what is the term that is the opposite of social construct?

What term is the opposite of football?

Your explanation is illogical, there are no assumptions in the rules of football. They are real because you know precisely and unambiguously when they are broken.

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Robot Senior Member Offline Conspirator Posts: 441 Engadine Maccas	Re: If race is a social construct how is there racism? Reply #6 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:19pm Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:14pm: Your explanation is illogical, there are no assumptions in the rules of football. They are real because you know precisely and unambiguously when they are broken. Clearly you aren't acquainted with Australian Rules football.
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Reply #7 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:27pm

If race is not real why don't two black African parents produce a white kids, a yellow kid, a brown and a black kid in equal proportions?

Seems they are more like to produce Black kids..........hmmmmmm. it's like they carry some distinct genetic information that is different from two white parents.

Social construct theory is the bottom feeder of academia.

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Robot Senior Member Offline Conspirator Posts: 441 Engadine Maccas	Re: If race is a social construct how is there racism? Reply #8 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:34pm No wonder you're so confused: you think that race just means that that skin colour is heritable.
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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: If race is a social construct how is there racism? Reply #9 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:42pm Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:34pm: No wonder you're so confused: you think that race just means that that skin colour is heritable. That's just one example. Do you think that a Great Dane dog and a fox terrier dog are only different as social constructs because they are both dogs.
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Reply #10 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:51pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:42pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:34pm:

No wonder you're so confused: you think that race just means that that skin colour is heritable.

That's just one example.

Do you think that a Great Dane dog and a fox terrier dog are only different as social constructs because they are both dogs.

You think that "race as a social construct" is somehow a denial that there are real differences between people?

Come on.

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Reply #11 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:59pm

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:42pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:34pm:

No wonder you're so confused: you think that race just means that that skin colour is heritable.

That's just one example.

Do you think that a Great Dane dog and a fox terrier dog are only different as social constructs because they are both dogs.

You think that "race as a social construct" is somehow a denial that there are real differences between people?

Come on.

Why not answer the question I asked plz.

So anyway what do you call genetically distinguishable traits between large population as in the dog example and between say blacks and whites.

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Reply #12 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:17pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:59pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:42pm:

Robot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:34pm:

No wonder you're so confused: you think that race just means that that skin colour is heritable.

That's just one example.

Do you think that a Great Dane dog and a fox terrier dog are only different as social constructs because they are both dogs.

You think that "race as a social construct" is somehow a denial that there are real differences between people?

Come on.

Why not answer the question I asked plz.

If you brought to me a Great Dane and a Fox Terrier, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart because I would just see two dogs, and if you claimed there was any difference between them I would just write it off as a social construct.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:59pm:

So anyway what do you call genetically distinguishable traits between large population as in the dog example and between say blacks and whites.

One difference between blacks and whites is skin colour (mindblowing!). The distribution of the genes for skin pigmentation is called the cline of that trait.

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Reply #13 - Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:24pm

That skin colour is enough to tell vast populations of people apart, there are also further characteristics within the populations to get further identifiable sub groups eg pygmies versus Zulu.

To say those genetic differences and also that you can't see any difference between a great Dane and a fix terrier borders on mental illness imo.

You have departed from reality.

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Reply #14 - Nov 4^th, 2018 at 12:22am

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

That skin colour is enough to tell vast populations of people apart,

I agree. For instance, Americans are a mix of light-, medium- and dark- skinned people, whereas Australians are mostly light-skinned with a mere smattering of medium- and dark-skinned people.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

there are also further characteristics within the populations to get further identifiable sub groups eg pygmies versus Zulu.

That's a reference to size, isn't it? Pygmies are short and Zulus are tall? By that reasoning, Muggsy Bogues is a Pygmy and Shaquille O'Neal is a Zulu. Or maybe Muggsy is a Fox Terrier and Shaq is a Great Dane.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

To say those genetic differences and also that you can't see any difference between a great Dane and a fix terrier borders on mental illness imo.

You have departed from reality.

Thanks--that made me smile.

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