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Re: Sex offenders register could become a reality !
Reply #30 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:53am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



You'll NEVER such a regressive shift in this county

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A recent public opinion poll of Australians found that 69% of respondents believe the penalty for murder should be imprisonment, while only 25% of those polled stated it should be the death penalty. The poll, conducted by Roy Morgan International just one week after an Australian citizen was executed by Singapore for possessing less than a half a kilogram of heroin, revealed that public support for capital punishment is continuing to decline in Australia. In November 2005, the same poll found that 66% of respondents favoured imprisonment and 27% favoured the death penalty. Australia carried out its last execution in 1967 and abolished capital punishment in 1985.




It just doesn't have the support of Australian citizens
And I thought were a "christian" ?

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Reply #31 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:59am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



You'll NEVER such a regressive shift in this county

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A recent public opinion poll of Australians found that 69% of respondents believe the penalty for murder should be imprisonment, while only 25% of those polled stated it should be the death penalty. The poll, conducted by Roy Morgan International just one week after an Australian citizen was executed by Singapore for possessing less than a half a kilogram of heroin, revealed that public support for capital punishment is continuing to decline in Australia. In November 2005, the same poll found that 66% of respondents favoured imprisonment and 27% favoured the death penalty. Australia carried out its last execution in 1967 and abolished capital punishment in 1985.




It just doesn't have the support of Australian citizens
And I thought were a "christian" ?



Moreover, we have legislation in place which says that capital punishment can't be reintroduced.

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Reply #32 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



an eye for an eye..

bobby there is no difference....

it doesnt stop anything.....human nature is such   we do not believe we will ever be caught....

and heaps arent .. so many missing people .. so many bodies found but no murderers ..


if the death penalty stopped it


why do they have so many on death rows in America?...
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Reply #33 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:12am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



an eye for an eye..

bobby there is no difference....

it doesnt stop anything.....human nature is such   we do not believe we will ever be caught....

and heaps arent .. so many missing people .. so many bodies found but no murderers ..


if the death penalty stopped it


why do they have so many on death rows in America?... 


Game, set, and match!

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Reply #34 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:22am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:42am:
Seriously, are you guys so desperate to have a hit at Greg you'd bang the drum over an 18 year old with a 15 year old as "underage sex"?

Of course it is, technically, but come on. You're not even going Buzz about it and he's the one who posted it!!

Is this what trolling has become on here? I don't know. It's just really dropped in standard. So disappointing.



Technical - nothing technical about being a firm fifteen...... even Buzz said he was seriously taken aback ... looks can be deceptive...

When I were a young man I thought that eighteen was way too old for a fifteen year old... and fifteen year olds still have little sense..... you can argue that my great great grand mother married at sixteen, but times and conditions were different then....

There have to be rules.... you don't get a handout from Centrelink if you are a tiny fraction over the limit.  Drinking at seventeen and one day short of eighteen is still illegal. You can't get your driver's licence one day under the regulated age.

Jeez, some political party might next demand that fifteen year olds get the vote, or even sixteen year olds, since technically they can shag to their heart's content.

And as for women teachers and young students..... you cannot have one rule for men and another for women ...

Stop The Rot!!
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Reply #35 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:28am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



You'll NEVER such a regressive shift in this county

Quote:
A recent public opinion poll of Australians found that 69% of respondents believe the penalty for murder should be imprisonment, while only 25% of those polled stated it should be the death penalty. The poll, conducted by Roy Morgan International just one week after an Australian citizen was executed by Singapore for possessing less than a half a kilogram of heroin, revealed that public support for capital punishment is continuing to decline in Australia. In November 2005, the same poll found that 66% of respondents favoured imprisonment and 27% favoured the death penalty. Australia carried out its last execution in 1967 and abolished capital punishment in 1985.




It just doesn't have the support of Australian citizens
And I thought were a "christian" ?



The Bible supports the death penalty -

You should read it sometime.
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Reply #36 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:32am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



an eye for an eye..

bobby there is no difference....

it doesnt stop anything.....human nature is such   we do not believe we will ever be caught....

and heaps arent .. so many missing people .. so many bodies found but no murderers ..


if the death penalty stopped it


why do they have so many on death rows in America?... 


And the vast majority are men.... and up to one in six could be falsely or wrongfully convicted for countless reasons...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project

" The group cites various studies estimating that in the United States, between 2.3 and 5% of all prisoners are innocent"...  This group deals ONLY with DNA exonerations, which are simply not applicable in most cases...

"In 2000, Neil J. Miller was exonerated after serving 10 years of a 22-year prison sentence for the rape of a Boston college student. The Innocence Project and Cardozo law student E. Elliot Adler took the lead in Miller's case, representing only the second inmate in Massachusetts history to be cleared on DNA evidence. After Miller's exoneration, Lawrence Taylor, the true perpetrator of the crime, was identified.

In 2003, Steven Avery was exonerated after serving 18 years in prison for a sexual assault charge.

In 2004, Darryl Hunt was exonerated after serving 19 1/2 years in prison of a life sentence for the rape and murder of a newspaper copy editor, Deborah Sykes.

In 2007, after an investigation begun by The Innocence Project, James Calvin Tillman was exonerated after serving 16 1/2 years in prison for a rape he did not commit. His sentence was 45 years.

In 2007, Lynn DeJac's 1994 conviction was reversed on the basis of DNA evidence. She had been convicted of murdering her daughter Crystallynn Girard in February 1993. She was the first woman to be exonerated of murder on the basis of DNA evidence.

In 2007, Floyd Brown was exonerated for the murder of an 80-year-old woman in Wadesboro, North Carolina. Brown had served 14 years in Dorothea Dix Hospital and had the mental capacity of a 7-year-old. He had been convicted solely on the basis of a false confession by a State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) agent, who claimed that Brown had dictated the confession to him; however, Brown's mental state precluded that possibility. Brown sued the state of North Carolina following his release.

In December 2009, James Bain was exonerated by DNA testing for a kidnapping, burglary, and rape he did not commit. Bain's appeal had previously been denied four separate times. His 35-year imprisonment made him the longest-incarcerated victim of a wrongful conviction to be freed through DNA evidence.

In June 2010, Barry Gibbs was awarded a civil rights settlement of $9.9 million from the City of New York. He received an additional $1.9 million settlement from New York State in late 2009. He was wrongly convicted of the 1986 murder of Brooklyn woman Virginia Robertson based on coerced testimony by a witness during the investigation by NYPD detective Louis Eppolito, who was later convicted for serving as a mob hit man on the side. Gibbs's original sentence was 20 years to life, of which he served just under 19 years. Gibbs had been repeatedly denied parole because of his lack of admission of guilt. Gibbs was exonerated in 2006 with help from the Innocence Project.

In September 2010, days before he was to be executed, Kevin Keith was granted clemency by Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, thanks in part to the Ohio Innocence Project.

In February 2010, Greg Taylor was exonerated for the murder of a North Carolina woman after serving 17 years in prison. Taylor had been convicted without physical evidence, and the State Bureau of Investigation failed to report all of their testing results during Taylor's original trial. Taylor described his experience as "the perfect storm of bad luck."

In 2014, Glenn Ford was exonerated in the murder of Isadore Newman. Ford, an African American, had been convicted by an all-white jury without any physical evidence linking him to the crime, and with testimony withheld. He served 30 years on death row in Angola Prison before his release.

In 2016 Joseph A. Buffy was exonerated for rape and robbery of an elderly woman after serving 14 years.

In 2016 Andre Hatchett was exonerated after serving 25 years for second-degree murder he did not commit. This was based on the testimony of a career criminal, Gerard Williams, who claimed to have witnessed the killing. A private investigator, Maureen Kelleher, was instrumental in finding Williams.

In 2016 Richard Rosario after serving 20 years was exonerated for the murder of Bronx resident George Collazo".

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Reply #37 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:33am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:28am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



You'll NEVER such a regressive shift in this county

Quote:
A recent public opinion poll of Australians found that 69% of respondents believe the penalty for murder should be imprisonment, while only 25% of those polled stated it should be the death penalty. The poll, conducted by Roy Morgan International just one week after an Australian citizen was executed by Singapore for possessing less than a half a kilogram of heroin, revealed that public support for capital punishment is continuing to decline in Australia. In November 2005, the same poll found that 66% of respondents favoured imprisonment and 27% favoured the death penalty. Australia carried out its last execution in 1967 and abolished capital punishment in 1985.




It just doesn't have the support of Australian citizens
And I thought were a "christian" ?



The Bible supports the death penalty -

You should read it sometime.


Completely irrelevant.

We're a secular state.

The Bible also supports beating children, by the way.

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Reply #38 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:38am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



an eye for an eye..

bobby there is no difference....

it doesnt stop anything.....human nature is such   we do not believe we will ever be caught....

and heaps arent .. so many missing people .. so many bodies found but no murderers ..


if the death penalty stopped it


why do they have so many on death rows in America?... 


Excellent question, cods.

"... the South Australian Office of Crime Statistics showed that abolition of the death penalty had no effect on homicide trends in that state.

"Experience overseas supports this Australian evidence.

"For example, when statistical material from various countries is considered, the presence or absence of the death penalty does not appear to indicate any significant influence upon the rates of murder and homicide and the preponderance of evidence suggests that the abolition of capital punishment has not resulted in any significant increase in the murder rates."
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Reply #39 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:42am
 
As for vigilante justice - I recall the case of a paedophile in the Newcastle region, who was vigilanted with superglue in the bum - the police sagely said that there were few clues and that finding a suspect was unlikely....

Vigilante hangings and such are highly possible, given total public exposure of people for certain crimes..... and once it starts with paedos, where does it end?

It's not that long ago that some moron took a cross-bow to a walking track up Narrabeen way and killed some passerby, on the basis that it was a gathering place for poofters, and they deserved cross-bowing...   WTF?

Public awareness is one thing...... and once again I must add that legal safeguards need to be fully in place before anyone can be convicted and publicly paraded like that over such emotion stirring crimes.  How does that 18 yo mentioned by Mothra - even though obviously guilty - fare once placed on that list?  What about a silly 16 yo and a 15 yo?  The urge is strong... the social constrictions few and far between these days... the encouragement strong even in schools to 'explore your sexuality' and all that rubbish...
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Reply #40 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:42am:
Seriously, are you guys so desperate to have a hit at Greg you'd bang the drum over an 18 year old with a 15 year old as "underage sex"?

Of course it is, technically, but come on. You're not even going Buzz about it and he's the one who posted it!!

Is this what trolling has become on here? I don't know. It's just really dropped in standard. So disappointing.
quite frankly Im astonished at all 3 of you. This type of offending attracts a prison term. Quite prepared to break the law for your own self serving needs and applauding others who do so. Laws exist for a reason, not to be dispensed with because of your own needs and wants. Try running the "technical" defence in court and see how far it gets you.
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Reply #41 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:04pm
 
The libs need to pull some sort of rabbit out of the hat, everything else has been an utter balls up and trainwreck
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Reply #42 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:08pm
 
as far as the death penalty, as an example theres ample evidence to suggest that a lot of  pedophilia is multi generational within families. 
Executing these people will stop the cycle, prevent these people from breeding and result in multi generational change. Stating that statistics dont show changes in offending is facile, the rate of these types of sex offenders is increasing, not decreasing. Research also shows that prison terms only make these people better at going undetected.
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Reply #43 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:12pm
 
Its time wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:04pm:
The libs need to pull some sort of rabbit out of the hat, everything else has been an utter balls up and trainwreck


Literally, maybe.

A 10 cent reward for every feral rabbit captured.

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Reply #44 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 2:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:38am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:15am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:12am:
The vigilantes will love this new law.

They'll have rope ready.




   that would make you happy then bobby????....

you do incite taking the law into your own hands....

I dont want to see bodies hanging from lamp posts bobs..

not what I want for our country.



On the contrary -

I only ever asked for the law to be changed to
have hanging as an option for courts.



an eye for an eye..

bobby there is no difference....

it doesnt stop anything.....human nature is such   we do not believe we will ever be caught....

and heaps arent .. so many missing people .. so many bodies found but no murderers ..


if the death penalty stopped it


why do they have so many on death rows in America?... 


Excellent question, cods.

"... the South Australian Office of Crime Statistics showed that abolition of the death penalty had no effect on homicide trends in that state.

"Experience overseas supports this Australian evidence.

"For example, when statistical material from various countries is considered, the presence or absence of the death penalty does not appear to indicate any significant influence upon the rates of murder and homicide and the preponderance of evidence suggests that the abolition of capital punishment has not resulted in any significant increase in the murder rates."



Greggy,
when you hang a man you better look at him.


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