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Reply #75 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 2:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 1:49pm:

A spot on analysis:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 1:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:52pm:

i think trump can see the next 4 years are armageddon and he is doing everything he can to lose and get the hell out

Exactly and this is what Trump ALWAYS DOES.

When things get tough, when his lies and bold impossible claims can no longer be supported by his "TRUMP" branding and people expect actual results or something tangible to be delivered, not just promises of it he gives up and declared bankruptcy, or in this case, apparently tries to deliberately lose the election.

It's what people have been warning about all along.

Trump had created so many divisions in the country all to hide his poor performance that during a time of a national, an international crisis when the country need to work together to try and control or even just slow the spread of a global pandemic, the divisions are too deep and Trump himself was still creating them around claims of the virus being a democrat hoax, masks being bad, social distancing and other measures to slow the virus being bad or leaning into the racism that fuels his supporters with "kung flu" etc.

The result of all of this is what we see now, the virus is out of control int he US.

And as you like to continue to point out scoot, the true infection rate is likely 9 to 10 times more than is being caught by the limited testing available. That means there are potentially around 500,000 new infections daily.

I think at this point, one would be forgiven if they started to call the virus, at least within the US, the "Trump Virus".

So all those people warning that a Trump presidency would result in him bankrupting the country, they were pretty close after all. Even before the Pandemic, his spending was out of control and things for the average American weren't improving, they were getting worse. He's lucky in a way that the USA has been so badly hit by the Trump Virus because it covers the tracks of his complete and utter failures.

So for once Scoot, I think we agree. Trump giving up is just another example of faux Alpha he's always been.

There is no doubt he's good at creating a business and personally profiting from its launch and it's clear this is his passion. He considers himself a builder.

But when it comes to the nuts and bolts of actually operating and delivering, it's like kryptonite for him.

This is why he's so addicted to his rallies. It's the "building part" of a Presidential campaign. His problem is he won the election.

He still wants to build, he still wants to get the cheers and applause for all the things he'll say he'll do.

But he just doesn't have it in him to actually deliver. He won't get the same applause as being the salesman for his business, his policies if he takes the time to work on them and actually delivers. And it's made worse by the fact that his claims are so obviously bullshit and unachievable.

Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare will be replaced with something better and everyone will have coverage and pay less?

Make America Great Again?

They're all things that sound great and get huge applause, but they are by design impossible to achieve in a way that those applauding them will be happy with the result and still applauding.

So he just moves on to build the next thing.

Over and over and over again, for decades, this has been Trump.

When the going gets tough, he gives up.

It's that simple.

I applaud you Scoot for finally taking the time to pay attention and see the truth of what Trump is.

There is nothing wrong with people like that, they are often risk-takers, but only because they don't really care about the outcome so long as they profit from the start-up, which he always seems to do.

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Reply #76 - Jul 7^th, 2020 at 1:51pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 6^th, 2020 at 9:39am:

This is how Trump is trying to win the election, make race an issue.

Not racial equality, but whites are the victims and Trump will protect them, MAGA. Take the country back to a time of white power.

He and his media friends are characterising any BLM protest no matter how peaceful as a riot.

They're changing the message of the BLM movement into one they can weaponise. The message of the movement is that Black Lives Matter, not other lives don't, but a friendly reminder, because sadly it's still required, that Black Lives do in fact Matter.

It's in the bloody name!

Now the Trumpists are trying to change that narrative to one of the BLM trying to undo the past, erase the founding fathers and make the country politically correct, in their image, coming for the white man.

It's bad enough as a white male that you can't ask a girl on a date without getting me too'd, now you have to lose your job for black person, lose your house for a black person, not be able to leave your keys in your car or you doors unlocked because of the civil rights act and black people living above their place.

It's not even close to what's happening.

It's clear for anyone to see, if they want to, the truth, but we're dealing with Trump supporters, they see what they want to see.

I don't want to hear any Trumptards trying to blame the left from this point on for racial divisions in the nation. It's not the only thing Trump is campaigning on, he's drawn the line if you want to be protected from black Americans, vote Trump.

He's used the Nazi iconography in his campaign ads, t-shirts, slogans, it's not even hidden anymore.

Stop supporting it before it's too late.

We talk about the danger of Trump, but this is an entirely new level, a deep deep wound he's still cutting into that is going to take a very long time to heal.

He needs to be stopped now. It's not like he's doing a good job as President and in the pros and cons of things, it would be worth it to give him 4 more years... He's been a terrible President, so terrible it's literally impossible for the average person to keep track.

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Reply #77 - Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 11:15am

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 10:57am:

Interesting take that yesterday's press conference was all about sending a signal to Maxwell: Trump has her back.

Mr Trump will happily reverse five months of talking down a pandemic to stage a press conference to say things will get worse, advise the public to wear masks and start taking this thing seriously.

You know, after the rest of the world did that five months ago.

But it wasn't really about taking the pandemic seriously, now was it? That's all a ruse.

I think it's a smart move. We need to study him. 5 years is the minimum.

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Reply #78 - Aug 7^th, 2020 at 9:39am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 9:34am:

Not sure how it is rejecting to point out that if you just look at the number of people who voted for a particular candidate in the 2016 US election, HIlary had more people vote for her.

The electoral college has zero to do with the pooular vote and since the US system is determined by that , Trump won the 2016 US election.

But why bother, you're an idiot.

Moreover, the polls ask the voting public who they will vote for, not the electoral college.

In 2016 the polls predicted that more people would vote for Clinton, and that's exactly what happened.

The polls were spot on.

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Reply #79 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 4:22pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 3:24pm:

You're talking to Rich as if he believes what he's saying, Sad. He doesn't. He knows full well it's a con-job, he's only lingering because Greggery pointed out that he was about to flee.

Rich isn't interested in facts, he's playing psychological warfare. His cause is to propagate lies. That's his agenda. He knows it's krap, he's just trying to keep the ball in the air as long as he can before he ducks out to spread new ones.

When has Rich ever proven himself correct on one of his claims? As soon as he omitted the source of his first dumb graph, Rich knew he was telling a Whopper. He then told another one when he said he'd try to find out. He told another when he pretended the critics were being racist.

These are just tactics, Rich knows that. Rich's entire purpose here is to erect a strawman to scare off the crows. All of it - the HCQ, the America's Frontline Doctors, the face mask krap, the attacks on Fauci - they're all a hollow clang intended to drown out the roar of the most mismanaged pandemic in the world, a death toll of over 161,000 Americans, a current rate of 1600 deaths a day from coronavirus.

Rich knows that. He knows that if HCQ worked it would be used. He knows there's no harm caused by surgical masks. He knows he's telling lies. He knows he's playing Trump's online attack dog in the last-ditch hope to keep Trump in power to continue to push Rich's global agenda of white supremacism.

That's why Rich's shrieks of racism are so cute. He's doing it to push racism.

Cunning? No. Embarrassingly transparent. Don't for a minute think Rich is dumb enough to fall for his own lies. He is only dumb enough to think you'll think he does.

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Reply #80 - Aug 18^th, 2020 at 4:13pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 18^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18^th, 2020 at 11:37am:

I find it interesting and hypocritical of aqua to be having a dig considering he seems to have no problem dismissing all the deaths. Guess its the case of one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.

Sure, but who's dying? Robert Trump is one of the first cases of the Superior Man dying from the virus. This shows that even those on the "narrow road to success" can experience failure. As Aquascoot says, it's a rough path indeed. One must risk all, as the Donald's brother did. He receives great honour for taking on this challenge and fighting to the end, we will remember him.

The chode losers, on the other hand, will be forgotten. Lazy, bitter and disrespectful, what would you expect? Their deaths are a testament to their lives of pure garbage.

The Superior Man relishes the virus as a challenge to overcome. Aquascoot himself has offered to send his vaccine to the noble Ghurkas. Fat Steve and Janeen just sit there with their hands out like junkies, waiting for their fix.

The cunning Donald knows this, so he promises a vaccine to them in record time. We'll have it by November! Wartime President! Operation Warp Speed!

But this is just a cunning ploy to give more to those who have all - the "noble capitalists", Jared's friends in pharmaceutical startups. Jared threw a bil at Moderna, Mr Trump threw a bil at Kodak. Don't make film, he said, make drugs. Here, have some loser taxpayer money. Make America great again.

I think it's a smart move. You should study him. 5 years is the minimum.

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Reply #81 - Aug 27^th, 2020 at 9:42pm

What about this one?

The_Barnacle nailed it. Cool

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 27^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

One of those making a victim statement got it right - mentioning his 'delusion'... bloody idiot giving White Men a bad name...

So when it's one of our own tribe he's an outcast, a black sheep
But when he's from the other tribe "they are all the same" there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim

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Reply #82 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 6:15am

rhino wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Narcissistic personality traits are quite often inherited, in this case we can see through the male bloodline the validity of that fact.

Trumps grandfather made his money initially from running a brothel. i.e he was a pimp.

Trumps father who held Nazi sympathies obtained major contracts in specific US shipyards during WW2, it was worked out after the war that many ships from those shipyards had a coincidentally much higher rate of being targeted and sunk by the Germans.

Trump and his father were sued in the 80s for refusing to rent any of their properties to blacks or minorities.

Another fact is that Trump himself patterns his oratory after Hitler, this has been validated by some who have been close to him.

I dont hate trump but I certainly understand what he is, I am astonished that he has managed to obtain the highest office in the US and continue to denigrate it while being an overt racist, malignant narcissist and a pathological liar.

I visited the US while Obama was in office and I did not find Americans to be anymore stupid than people anywhere, very insular perhaps but not stupid.

It bewilders me why nearly 50 percent of Americans supported and continue to support him.

I understand that initially there were many Americans who were completely disenchanted with their political system and made a protest vote for Trump, but hes been in office nearly 4 years and even the simplest person should be able to understand he is a fairly disgusting human being as well as incompetent.

If this was a left wing President someone from the right would have taken him out by now but I think if he gets another term even the more tolerant from the left will start to question what it will take to get him out of there.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102442 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Post of the day Reply #83 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 6:45am MOD: Please don't post off-topic comments like this. One more, and you'll be banned. Greggy - you poof - don't delete my posts. You are posting fake news.
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Reply #84 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 6:48am

rhino wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Narcissistic personality traits are quite often inherited, in this case we can see through the male bloodline the validity of that fact.

Trumps grandfather made his money initially from running a brothel. i.e he was a pimp.

Trumps father who held Nazi sympathies obtained major contracts in specific US shipyards during WW2, it was worked out after the war that many ships from those shipyards had a coincidentally much higher rate of being targeted and sunk by the Germans.

Trump and his father were sued in the 80s for refusing to rent any of their properties to blacks or minorities.

Another fact is that Trump himself patterns his oratory after Hitler, this has been validated by some who have been close to him.

I dont hate trump but I certainly understand what he is, I am astonished that he has managed to obtain the highest office in the US and continue to denigrate it while being an overt racist, malignant narcissist and a pathological liar.

I visited the US while Obama was in office and I did not find Americans to be anymore stupid than people anywhere, very insular perhaps but not stupid.

It bewilders me why nearly 50 percent of Americans supported and continue to support him.

I understand that initially there were many Americans who were completely disenchanted with their political system and made a protest vote for Trump, but hes been in office nearly 4 years and even the simplest person should be able to understand he is a fairly disgusting human being as well as incompetent.

If this was a left wing President someone from the right would have taken him out by now but I think if he gets another term even the more tolerant from the left will start to question what it will take to get him out of there.

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Reply #85 - Oct 17^th, 2020 at 7:18pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

Sad, I'm sorry, that simply cannot be true. A political party in power doing these sorts of things in a democracy? In America?

Impossible. Mr Trump recently appointed an old friend to modernise the US mail, a great guy. That's a good thing, right? Cutting costs and saving taxpayer dollars can't be bad for America, surely. We all need to tighten our belts.

All those other things you mention preserve American democracy. Look, you don't want to register too many dark coloured people all at once, it wouldn't be fair. There have to be limits.

And, you know, Mr Trump has cited thousands - maybe millions of cases where people are registering their dead aunt or their pets. Can you imagine? They get fake ID for their dogs, for example, and sign on their behalf - easy. They just tell the person who's registering them they can't make it in. No problem, they say, all good.

Some people steal the ballots and send them in themselves - cunning, no? They just go round stealing everyone's mail. They have to find their signatures somehow too - I'm not sure how they do it, but they're most cunning.

Mr Trump would never stoop to these sorts of tricks. He's been saying it for years. The game's rigged, he says. He actually won the popular vote in 2016, but these cheats took it away from him. You can tell how popular he is from his inauguration - the biggest turn out in history, they said, period. Far bigger than Obama.

The American people want him there. Look, if a few corners have to be cut to keep him in, I can't see a problem with that, to be honest. They could start with throwing out a few votes from the black neighbourhoods. As Mr Trump says, they're too stupid to vote for him. There's a case that voters should have a minimum IQ Level to qualify.

Mr Trump's smart. Top marks at school and in college, and he just knows stuff from experience. He's a self-made man. He had to claw his way up pretty much from nothing, and you know what sharks they are in New York. The worst. You have to be on your game.

Mr Trump has to cut a few corners, so what? That's a good thing, no? Look at all the great things he's doing for America.

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Reply #87 - Nov 7^th, 2020 at 2:49pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

That’s all lies, Laugh. The people voted for Mr Trump. The FAKE NEWS is just calling it wrong, you’ll see.

It happens all the time. Back in 2016, for example, Mr Trump had the biggest inauguration crowd in history, period. The fake news media made it look tiny.

Look at Mr Trump’s rallies. Thousands of beautiful people as far as the eye can see, so much winning. People love the man. Some even claimed to have been healed. Plenty of people are saying this. It could be the positive energy, it could be God, it could be the spirit of Mr Trump himself, it’s hard to say. No one leaves a Trump rally feeling sick, that’s for sure.

You don’t see anyone at Sleepy Joe’s rallies. If they go, they don’t even get out of their cars. They just sit there in their pyjamas, wallowing in their anger and resentment. Why can’t we be more like Mr Trump? They think.

That’s easy. Stop being a leftard. Stand up for law and order. Fight back the blacks and Antifa. Hate them. This is what made America great, before all the blacks and Muslims and leftards came along, so racist and unfair.

No, you’ll see. When Mr Trump’s finished with this election, he’ll be the winner. So stand up for Mr Trump, hate the leftards and fight for your country. Mr Trump’s doing everything he can in the courts to make sure America gets the best leader since George Washington.

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Reply #88 - Nov 7^th, 2020 at 7:56pm

rhino wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Im not a big Biden fan, but hes not Trump and thats why i suspect a lot of people voted for him. Trump is just an all round appalling human being and a pathological liar with no intellect, no moral compass and zero ethics. If he showed up at my door trying to sell me a vacuum cleaner I would kick him up the arse and send him on his way. Thats why i find it astonishing that 69 million Americans couldnt see through him.

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Reply #89 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 7:05am

Karnal wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:55am:

You’ve just uncovered the Rich method, Sad.

You left out the bit at the end where, when the truth is undeniable, poof! He’s gone.

Trump is playing out the leadership of the free world using the exact same method: pepper the board with bullshit, and when the truth comes out, poof! Nowhere to be seen.

You can see why Rich et al love him so. For them, Trump is the manifestation of their reason for being, the ultimate internet troll. Trump has it all - the conspiracies, the victimhood, the bullying. The vain, thin-skinned arrogance and pomposity. Ultimately, he has the bullshit, the most ignorant lies told with such a straight face, with such passion.

This is what they admire the most, the talent Trump has, as Steve Bannon once said, to say any old crap and believe it. Trump often boasts about his lies. Watch this, he’s told journalists, as he’s gotten up to tell a howler. And afterwards, sitting down: not bad, eh?

Trump wasn’t happy when Leslie Stahl pointed this out on 60 Minutes. Trump had indeed once bragged to her about his methods for tarring the press. He got these tricks from his mentor Roy Cohn, McCarthy’s legal sheister, and Trump had given Leslie Stahl the same lecture he was given, back in New York, starting out. Stahl wasn’t meant to remind him of this on air, of course, but she did, and it’s history.

Trump’s methods are exposed most clearly now by his silence. His four years in the White House were only ever a PR pitch for another four years. Leslie Stahl and others all asked what he wanted to do with another four years, and Trump was always struck dumb. Do?

What a strange question. Get back in, that’s all Trump wanted to do. Get the popular vote that eluded him in 2016. Get the broadsheets and the beltway and the insiders to finally admit that Trump was legit. Get them behind Trump, singing his praises like they do for Putin in Russia or Kim in North Korea. Get a little respect for once.

Now, Trump’s left hopelessly trying to claw back a few hundred votes in Mid Western counties, such a nakedly desperate attempt to save face. None of it adds or gives anything to America. Trump’s not doing it to save lives or bring peace or fulfil a plan or vision, he’s just doing what he’s always done and defending the Trump brand.

Trump’s caught, after all the bullshit - five years worth of lies, bullying and stirring up dissent - speechless. The people have spoken. Trump, quite simply, has nothing left to say.

Rich and co know the feeling all too well. Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

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