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Reply #15 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.
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Reply #16 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible

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Reply #17 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 9:48pm
 
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islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?


Well didn't that cause a kefuffle?

Not one person could refute what I wrote, could not rebut the argument that this is the way to fight religious terrorism. 

All we got was the usual lies about what Christ preached, the catholic inquisitions which are 100% the exact opposite to the teachings of Christ ( which is the backbone of Christianity) etc. etc. etc.

So the answer is still there right in front of every body:

The only way to defeat islamic terrorism is to have muslims honestly question the evil in the qur'an.

The global terrorism mankind faces today 2019 right here right now is islamic religious terrorism;

Little children are dying in their tens if not hundreds of thousands, because of islamic religious terrorism.

muslims by the millions are fleeing around the globe as refugees demanding that the kufir feed and shelter them.

Every single day of the year people are slaughtered by muslims who follow the qur'an too the very letter.

We have to stop this islamic madness, there is a sure way:

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islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?
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Reply #18 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:00pm
 

Judaism: Different story, but same book (as Christianity)
Mohommedism: Same story, but different book (as Christianity).

Christianity is a lie and thus being rejected by European nations. Germany was first. France is next.
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Reply #19 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:01pm
 
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Christian terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by Christianity.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the The Bible.

How do you stop Christian religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the The Bible.

The The Bible itself actually backs up this surmise:

John 14: “2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” “

O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the “immoderate” and rightards know also (truth will destroy Christianity), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the The Bible in order to stop Christian religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well didn't that cause a kefuffle?

Not one person could refute what I wrote, could not rebut the argument that this is the way to fight religious terrorism. 

All we got was the usual lies about what Christ preached, the catholic inquisitions which are 100% the exact opposite to the teachings of Christ ( which is the backbone of Christianity) etc. etc. etc.

So the answer is still there right in front of every body:

The only way to defeat Christian terrorism is to have Christians honestly question the evil in the Bible.

The global terrorism mankind faces today 2019 right here right now is Christian religious terrorism;

Little children are dying in their tens if not hundreds of thousands, because of Christian religious terrorism.

Christians by the millions are fleeing around the globe as refugees demanding that the secular feed and shelter them.

Every single day of the year people are slaughtered by Christians who claim to follow The Bible to the very letter.

We have to stop this Christian madness, there is a sure way:

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Christian terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by Christianity.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the The Bible.

How do you stop Christian religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the The Bible.

The The Bible itself actually backs up this surmise:

John 14: “2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” “

O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the “immoderate” and rightards know also (truth will destroy Christianity), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the The Bible in order to stop Christian religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #20 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:

.....The Old Testament.

It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.

Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.






polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.





"Jesus Christ" will return, and he will subdue all of mankind.

Will moslems bow down to the God of the O.T. gandalf ?
....or only to 'Allah' ?



Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.


Isaiah 45:21
Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23  I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.


Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.


Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12  So then every one of us shall give account of himself to....


Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12  His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.




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1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


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Reply #21 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 11:28pm
 
qur'an 5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

qur'an 5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

muslims simply have to ask them selves why the people who have questioned the qur'an lost their faith.

The answer to all their troubles lies in this simple question.

Once they realize that the qur'an is nothing more than muhammad urging atrocities be committed in the name of allah, in order to spread islam across the land.

The little kids will stop dying, the world refugee crises will be resolved, muslims will stop the global daily slaughter of people in the name of allah.

The world will be a better place, if muslims simply question the evil in the qur'an.
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Reply #22 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am
 
Arguing that Islam is no better or worse than Christianity, because of nasty Biblical quotes, and bloody episodes in the history of Christian relations with others, is hardly a recommendation for Islam today.

There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?
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Reply #23 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:10am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible



from your link:

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Hebrew Bible, also called Hebrew Scriptures, Old Testament, or Tanakh, collection of writings that was first compiled and preserved as the sacred books of the Jewish people.
It constitutes a large portion of the Christian Bible
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Reply #24 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.
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Reply #25 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 10:47am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
Arguing that Islam is no better or worse than Christianity, because of nasty Biblical quotes, and bloody episodes in the history of Christian relations with others, is hardly a recommendation for Islam today.


What it does is illustrate the Bible quote:
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...and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...

[John:8:7]

No religion is faultless.  Not Christianity, not Buddhism, not Hinduism, not Islam.   All are as bad as each other, with followers who are extremists and followers who commit atrocities in the name of their religion.   When you recognise that, you'll recognise that a tiny minority of Muslims are Islamist extremists, just as tiny minority of Christians are Christian extremists.

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There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam.


Of course it is.  Christianity has learnt that it is easier to entice believers than it is to brow-beat them.  Islam is learning that.  Christians still commit atrocities though, despite what their religion teaches them.

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How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years?


Iraq, twice, plus the Occupation.  Then you have Syria.  Then you have Rwanda.  Then you have Central African Republic, the Balkans, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI...   The list goes on and on, IssueVoter.   Christians who believe in "love thy neighbour" are rather handy with the machine gun when they want to be...

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How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


Yes.  Happens everyday in Western cities around the world...   Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Why do you think it has a lower profile Gandalf?

There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.

Sir_Bobby wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:20pm:
The religion of Christ has been even worse than the Muslims:



The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.



polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
well said Bobby


Are you two suggesting there is no fundamental difference is the two doctrine's support for violence?
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Reply #27 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 1:17pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Oh I get your drift. The evil Western media isn't reporting all the Christian massacres of Muzlims, because they are so pro-Christian. More lies and obfuscation from our resident turbanhead.
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Reply #28 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:27pm
 
The one definitive fact in this Christian versus islam debate is:

Christ never advocated violence as the path for his followers.

muhammad taught that violence is perfectly O.K.

muslims right now today 2019 are the global terrorists, the worlds refugee problem, muslims are the very people who have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent children with hunger and death while fleeing muslim violence.

Yet the sick *moderates* and apologists keep trying to muddy the waters with their continual deceitful references to other beliefs.

islam is the problem right now today, why are these weirdos afraid to face up to the problem of muslim global terrorism?

Query, why do people who question the qur'an lose their faith?
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Reply #29 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:54pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:10am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible



from your link:

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Hebrew Bible, also called Hebrew Scriptures, Old Testament, or Tanakh, collection of writings that was first compiled and preserved as the sacred books of the Jewish people.
It constitutes a large portion of the Christian Bible
.

It is there to show what Christianity has moved ON from and what it has not.

There is NO Christ in the OT. Chritanity is about a Jew who moved on from the OT. Didn't abandoning, reformed it, made something NEW from it.

What new and good has Islam brought into the world? Nothing.




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