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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #75 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:15pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 2:38pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 7:22pm:
moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Don't tell me.

Tell the authorities all around the globe who have chalked up the muzzies as the worlds major terrorist threat.


For the moment, for the moment, Moses. Who was "the worlds greatest Terrorist threat," twenty years ago?  A hundred years ago?  Who will be in twenty years, a hundred years?  What's the betting Islamists are a flash in the pan, hey?

However, the main point which should be made is that Islamists do not, despite what you are implying, represent any one other than their own cliche of crazy followers.  Mainstream, law-abiding Muslims reject their craziness - just as mainstream, law-abiding Christians reject your craziness, Moses.   Roll Eyes


Is Yes, Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?



Fixed.

And the Chinese.


Set: you working today?

The word "Yes" was not in FD's original post.



Neither Set nor FD will ban sore end

He's an Islamaphobe and therefore immune to the rules


What Frank did is a clear breach of the rules, which Set has banned me and others for in the past.

I'm sure other forum members would start asking questions if nothing is done about this breach.

Maybe Vic will step in.




If you were banned it must have been for being an obnoxious lowlife liar.

I merely agreed with a post and commented on its unnecessary politeness and timidity regarding the greatest threats to freedom and democracy - Islam and the Chinese.


Back to your S-bend.






Not quite.

You added the word "yes" to FD's original post.

Under Set's rules, that's a bannable offence.

Ask him.
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Reply #76 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes

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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #77 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:15pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 2:38pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 7:22pm:
moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Don't tell me.

Tell the authorities all around the globe who have chalked up the muzzies as the worlds major terrorist threat.


For the moment, for the moment, Moses. Who was "the worlds greatest Terrorist threat," twenty years ago?  A hundred years ago?  Who will be in twenty years, a hundred years?  What's the betting Islamists are a flash in the pan, hey?

However, the main point which should be made is that Islamists do not, despite what you are implying, represent any one other than their own cliche of crazy followers.  Mainstream, law-abiding Muslims reject their craziness - just as mainstream, law-abiding Christians reject your craziness, Moses.   Roll Eyes


Is Yes, Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?



Fixed.

And the Chinese.


Set: you working today?

The word "Yes" was not in FD's original post.



Neither Set nor FD will ban sore end

He's an Islamaphobe and therefore immune to the rules


What Frank did is a clear breach of the rules, which Set has banned me and others for in the past.

I'm sure other forum members would start asking questions if nothing is done about this breach.

Maybe Vic will step in.




If you were banned it must have been for being an obnoxious lowlife liar.

I merely agreed with a post and commented on its unnecessary politeness and timidity regarding the greatest threats to freedom and democracy - Islam and the Chinese.


Back to your S-bend.






Not quite.

You added the word "yes" to FD's original post.

Under Set's rules, that's a bannable offence.

Ask him.


This was FD's post:

"Is Islam the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?".

He's asking a question.

Here's what you did to his post:

"Is Yes, Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?"

Striking out words is fine.

However, you've added the word "yes" (as well as a comma) to change the meaning and intent of FD's post.

Set has said on several occasions that anyone doing this will receive a ban.

Anyone on the left, that is - I'm sure you'll be fine.



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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #78 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.
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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #79 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 3:15pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 2:38pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 7:22pm:
moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Don't tell me.

Tell the authorities all around the globe who have chalked up the muzzies as the worlds major terrorist threat.


For the moment, for the moment, Moses. Who was "the worlds greatest Terrorist threat," twenty years ago?  A hundred years ago?  Who will be in twenty years, a hundred years?  What's the betting Islamists are a flash in the pan, hey?

However, the main point which should be made is that Islamists do not, despite what you are implying, represent any one other than their own cliche of crazy followers.  Mainstream, law-abiding Muslims reject their craziness - just as mainstream, law-abiding Christians reject your craziness, Moses.   Roll Eyes


Is Yes, Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?



Fixed.

And the Chinese.


Set: you working today?

The word "Yes" was not in FD's original post.



Neither Set nor FD will ban sore end

He's an Islamaphobe and therefore immune to the rules


What Frank did is a clear breach of the rules, which Set has banned me and others for in the past.

I'm sure other forum members would start asking questions if nothing is done about this breach.

Maybe Vic will step in.




If you were banned it must have been for being an obnoxious lowlife liar.

I merely agreed with a post and commented on its unnecessary politeness and timidity regarding the greatest threats to freedom and democracy - Islam and the Chinese.


Back to your S-bend.






Not quite.

You added the word "yes" to FD's original post.

Under Set's rules, that's a bannable offence.

Ask him.


This was FD's post:

"Is Islam the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?".

He's asking a question.

Here's what you did to his post:

"Is Yes, Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?"

Striking out words is fine.

However, you've added the word "yes" (as well as a comma) to change the meaning and intent of FD's post.

Set has said on several occasions that anyone doing this will receive a ban.

Anyone on the left, that is - I'm sure you'll be fine.





You are on the Left, Turd?   Is the S-bend on the Left? I thought it was in the middle.  Perth thing? Almost said 'Bwianesque thing', but thought better of it - you are afflicted enough as it is.




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Reply #80 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #81 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You lie
knowingly
, Bwian.   That's what lying is, you stupid old lying fool.

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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #82 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You lie
knowingly
, Bwian.   That's what lying is, you stupid old lying fool.



So, you've failed once more to demonstrate where and how I have "lied", Soren.  How unsurprising.   What a silly sausage you are.   Tsk, tsk.  Off, back to the little kiddies' playground.  Your spot on the monkey bars will be taken from you, if you're not careful.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Islam is unreformable. Never ever.
Reply #83 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 7:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You lie
knowingly
, Bwian.   That's what lying is, you stupid old lying fool.



So, you've failed once more to demonstrate where and how I have "lied", Soren.  How unsurprising. 

You lied, just there.

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Reply #84 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 10:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 7:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You lie
knowingly
, Bwian.   That's what lying is, you stupid old lying fool.



So, you've failed once more to demonstrate where and how I have "lied", Soren.  How unsurprising. 

You lied, just there.



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  What  a WOFTM you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #86 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 10:03pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 7:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
If I have "knowingly told an untruth," prove I have done so, Soren.  If you are able to.  Go for it, here is a space to do so:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Christians are told to kill unbelievers and apostates.   


 
There you go, cockwomble, that's just from the last 2 minutes.


You appear to be ignoring in your ignorance half the Bible, Soren.  Don't worry, most Christians don't.    Roll Eyes


You lied as always and now you go all faux-mysterious and 'oh, if you don't know'.  What a sham of a man you are, Bwian, you silly, fraudulent old piss-soaked fool.


Poor, poor, Soren.  I really must remember you're a literalist, mustn't I?  No sense of humour, no understanding of the subtleties of what you're discussing.  I suppose it's being Danish and learning English as a second language, right?

I was referring to the Old Testament.  OK?    Roll Eyes


Not OK, Bwian.   You are lying out of both corners of your mouth.  You lie and then act all idiotic about goal posts and literal interpretation, slipping and sliding like a pig on ice.

You lied. You always lie. I showed you where you lied. So now you act like gweggy the turd.


How have I "unknowingly told an untruth," Soren?  Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not a part of the most holy work for Christians - The Bible?   Are you suggesting that Christians do not obey what the Old Testament tells them to obey?  Are you suggesting that the 10 Commandments are not a central part of Christianity's teaching and are all a part of the Old Testament?   Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what did you learn in Sunday School under the stern gaze of the Pastor?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You lie
knowingly
, Bwian.   That's what lying is, you stupid old lying fool.



So, you've failed once more to demonstrate where and how I have "lied", Soren.  How unsurprising. 

You lied, just there.



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  What  a WOFTM you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's not his fault, Brian. The old boy doesn't get out much. He lives in an iron lung.

It's pretty hard for him to straighten the bins these days. He has to pay some tinted Paki to do that.

They don't try. It's so hard to find good help these days.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 9:43am:
If Christians can get past specific doctrinal commands to punish and/or revile homosexuals and look upon women as subservient, inferior beings who must not be heard in public - into a religion that officially embraces gay rights and women's equality - then I don't think its a stretch for muslims to get over some pretty vague and ambiguous doctrinal references that allegedly condone slaughtering innocents on the basis of personal beliefs as an act of faith. For one thing, they can instead emphasise the decidedly *NON* vague and *NON ambiguous commands to accept and embrace freedom of thought in 2:256 and 18:29.





What are the features of Christianity that facilitate its evolution but which are lacking in Islam and so Islam is stuck, for eternity, in the 7th century and has not unfolded in its own interpretive, hermeneutic
understanding of itself?
The Islamic sects that have and are trying to find a way to such unfolding are negligible in number and influence. The most atavistic, versions of sunni and shia doctrines dominate the Islamic world and minds. Reformers and internal critic are silenced or killed as always everywhere.

The reason for this is in Islam itself and these reasons are unchangeable. There is no authority like a church, there are no councils of discussion and interpretive adjustment, every two-bit imam is as good as a pope. There is no Islamic authority that can move on from the literal, eternal, unchangeable words of the Koran and the idea that Mohammed was, like a pope, inerrant. In addition, Islam has a huge claim for itself and so it is congenitally uninterested in and disdainful of new ideas - how could you improve on Allah's final, eternal message?

It is Mohammed's stupendous ignorance and hubris, set in stone, that holds back Muslims and will hold them back as long as they stay in the idiotic aspic of a semi-literate Arab who promised the earth and heaven to all who follow him. It's almost as if Islam was a curse on them. Well, it IS.








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Reply #89 - Feb 15th, 2019 at 8:12am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 14th, 2019 at 8:17pm:
The reason for this is in Islam itself and these reasons are unchangeable. There is no authority like a church, there are no councils of discussion and interpretive adjustment, every two-bit imam is as good as a pope. There is no Islamic authority that can move on from the literal, eternal, unchangeable words of the Koran and the idea that Mohammed was, like a pope, inerrant. In addition, Islam has a huge claim for itself and so it is congenitally uninterested in and disdainful of new ideas - how could you improve on Allah's final, eternal message?


Not sure of your logic Frank. Not having a rigid hierarchy where a pope-like figure makes the final and indisputable ruling on all doctrinal matters surely makes it more flexible and more amenable to reform no? Countless numbers of "two-bit Imam's" running around everywhere insisting their's is the correct message creates a healthy free market of ideas that are shared, borrowed and developed.

I mean, its not really logically consistent to argue on the one hand that there are all these "two-bit Imam's", each as legitimate as the other, competing with each other to proclaim their interpretation as the gospel - and on the other to argue that at the same time there is no debates or exchange of ideas going on for Islam to evolve, is it?
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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