mothra wrote on Feb 6
th, 2019 at 12:31am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 8:10pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 8:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 7:57pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 6:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5
th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
After all these years of whinging the abos have never given us an alternative for Jan 26. That's because it would give away what this is really all about. What they want is a treaty day like the Maori have ( Waitangi Day). It all leads to this . They want us to pay rent and the whinging will never end until they get it.
We spent $33 billion last year on rent to 500,000 people.
https://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-is-30-billion-spent-every-year-on-50...Verdict
Warren Mundine’s statement uses the most accurate and up-to-date estimate of government spending on Indigenous Australians – about $30.3 billion, according to the Productivity Commission.
However, only a small proportion of the overall Indigenous expenditure is on Indigenous-specific programs. The rest comprises the cost of providing mainstream services, such as schooling and health care, that all Australians enjoy.
His figure of 500,000 Indigenous Australians is a bit low, likely reflecting reasonably common uncertainty on this question (as well as him being on the spot on a fast-paced, live TV program).
The general point about needing “to find out where the wastage of our funding is” is important, and requires careful evaluation of the impact and cost-effectiveness of Indigenous-specific and other social programs. So directly and indirectly $60,600 is spent every year on roughly every aboriginal person while $20,900 is spent annually (directly and indirectly) on everybody else???
Please don;t tell me i need to explain it to you?
Read it again. Slowly.
3.3 billion divided by 500,000 is $60,000+ for each person. Now even with essential services thrown in it's way over the $20,000 with essential services for everybody else. Prison incarceration, health services, maintaining remote communities, welfare etc all high amongst aboriginal people. I can see why they cost so much. When are they going to PAY IT BACCCKKKK! da da da.
Two things:
You evidently did not read the link. There is closer to 700.000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in Australia ... so we're just wrong from the get-go.
Secondly, the sum total is not divisible by individuals by by services provided. These are services provided to all Australian people. It costs to provide infrastructure to remote ddwelling citizens.
Now, if you feel like challenging yourself,
question why Aboriginal majority townships and their residents are in such a state of neglect they require constant band-aids.Try to do it with knee-jerk racism.
Then you might be getting closer to the reality of the situation.
a) There is little to no work there.
b) There is little to no infrastructure due to low local populations.
c) There is no incentive for those living there to do it for themselves.
d) Local councils have little money due to all of the above to make things better.
e) People in that situation become depressed and lost, have foreshortened horizons** on life, and see no real way out, so it becomes a never-ending cycle.
Now bring me some real hate, mothra.. John Smith... Losers Inc. Whining about Invention Day won't change a thing, and attacking those who want Australia Day to remain as it is will only get you into a war, since you are alienating, radicalising and marginalising the majority who have done nothing to you just for some petty one-upmanship.
Hmmm - 700,000 doesn't sound like any real genocide took place...... (whine, whine, whine)....
** Example:- Selling up and moving oceanside -the ex (for whom I'm full-time carer) says she doesn't want to install rooftop solar power - too expensive. I look up systems and can get one installed for a price that will be recouped in 2-3 years - for me that's a goer and I intend to add some batteries as well. She doesn't want to spend the money - I'll spend some of mine and she will see it when the truck arrives and the guys start putting it up ... no discussion.
She grew up poor in West Dubbo - I grew up poorer in Newcastle..... both have 'foreshortened horizons' in some ways.... we put up with things when a little change can make the world of difference. One of us learns from environment, the other lives in it.
People with foreshortened horizons need counseling and to learn how to make an effort. Self-sufficiency is the way to go.... and these small and often remote areas need a review of what can and can't be done.... by the people who live there.
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