Apparently this is Gandalf "not defending" the Taliban:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What didn't happen at all?
girls getting shot for attending school, or getting shot for reading non-Quranic material if they were under 8 - under the taliban regime. How on earth was this not crystal clear from what I said FD?
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 3:04pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 2:54pm:
Would you like to post the actual quote now?
sure...
Quote:Women seeking an education were forced to attend underground schools, where they and their teachers risked execution if caught.
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
As far as I can tell, the whole thing is a lie. Where did you get it from?
Sorry FD, it was "risked", not "feared". You highlighted it in
this post when I asked for evidence for the claim that executing little girls for attending school and reading non-Quranic material (if under 8). Needless to say it is entirely irrelevant for what I asked for.
Is that the basis of your accusation of lying?
Would you like to give me further lectures about pedantry?
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10
th, 2019 at 9:11am:
freediver wrote on Sep 9
th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9
th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What didn't happen at all?
girls getting shot for attending school
Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?
Thats one of the more stupid comments in this discussion FD - and thats really saying something.
Wikipedia: vague statement about how girls "risked execution" if they attended school - without giving a single example of any such execution actually happening.
FD:
therefore the taliban definitely had a 'widespread' and 'widely enforced policy' of lining up little girls and shooting them in the back of the head for attending school
Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?
not really.
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:39am:
How can the majority of university graduates be female in a country that treats it's women just as bad as the Taliban?
Sad isn't it? They get all those qualifications, but can't do anything with them. You could almost say its a cruel joke - a cynical ploy to 'keep up appearances'. If only the taliban had the propaganda skills of the Saudis to hoodwink the useful idiots- not to mention have the vassalage of the US. Who knows, maybe even you would apologise for them.
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:39am:
Quote:Women are prevented from a) getting a job outside the house and b) practically doing anything outside the home - just as they were under the taliban. Still, I'm sure they appreciate using their wonderful uni degrees to conduct philosophical debates with themselves safely shut away in their own home.
How do they get a university degree if they are shut away in their home?
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 10:15am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2019 at 9:31am:
What didn't happen at all? Is this you "not defending" the Taliban?
During their rule 1996-2001, we know not a single case of a girl over 8 being executed by the taliban for attending school. And we know not a single case of a girl under 8 being executed by the taliban for reading non-Quranic material. You lied by not only saying it happened, but it was a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy". As I said, when you go for porkies, you sure do go big.
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5
th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 5
th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
Do you think wikipedia was misleading people when they said that students and teachers risked death under the Taliban?
No. Do you think you were misleading by translating that as having a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy" of shooting toddlers in the back of the head for reading non-Quranic material?
You do concede that none of your sources even mention under 8s - let alone what they were executed for - right?
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5
th, 2019 at 9:52am:
freediver wrote on Sep 4
th, 2019 at 5:52pm:
as if not getting a job after leaving Uni is just as bad as a bullet in the back of the head for attending primary school.
A bullet to the back of the head cetainly would be worse than being an unemployed uni graduate. Whoever said it wasn't FD?
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